Re: [ilugd] October 2012 Meetup

2012-10-04 Thread Anuvrat Parashar
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Lynn lynn.and...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote:

  On 1 October 2012 09:51, Sirtaj Singh Kang sir...@sirtaj.net wrote:
 
  
   Hi,
  
   If there is interest, I'd like to do a short (30min) talk on my
   experiences with Xen and puppet (debian-focused).
  
 
  That would be welcome.
 
  Am chasing down Andrew to confirm the availability of
  JNU for Sat. However, this should not be a problem.
 
  I would also like to speak briefly about open data,
  and the possibilities of mobile-based data collection.
 
 
 Sorry - localhost was was hanging due to overload from other unnecessary
 processes.

 eth0 - Kinshuk - Some Mozilla stuff
 eth1 - Anuvrat - Some more mozilla stuff (probably need to bind with port
 above)

its the same thing, i.e its bound

 eth2 - Gora - mobile-based data collection
 eth3 - Taj -  Xen and Puppet.

 BTW -As we in the free software world know, JNU needs a kernel to be fully
 functional.
 Anuvrat can you take over like you did last time round? Size the
 requirements after coordinating offline with each of the above (and any
 others) .

okay


 Here is the general low-down on facilities at JNU which are available at
 short notice.
 One room for ~50
 One room for ~20


should be sufficient, lets see what kinshuk has to say

The lawns outside - can take more, but since the sun is still sharp, if you
 are planning an afternoon event I will have to organise tenting. Also some
 ideas of how to project in the bright light outside.
 One room with great air-conditioning and can seat 20, but has
 cubicles.which does not make for cosy conversation. Can be used for
 tutorials.

 Samosas/Bread pakoras and Nimbu Pani/Chai on the housethough since we
 have a potential tourist attraction like THE Taj - maybe the ILUG-D
 treasurer should turn up with the cheque book?

 Andrew.
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Re: [ilugd] October 2012 Meetup

2012-10-04 Thread Anuvrat Parashar
The mozilla stuff is available here
http://delhi.mozillaindia.org/schedule/ .

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Re: [ilugd] October 2012 Meetup

2012-10-04 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Anuvrat Parashar anuv...@anuvrat.in wrote:
 The mozilla stuff is available here
 http://delhi.mozillaindia.org/schedule/ .

afaik this was a full blown event extending two days with around 400
people turning up my questions to Kinshuk are

1) Are we going to continue with the same schedule
2) if we are then in that case  do we have any plan as  how we  are
going to manage with two rooms of 50 + 20 .

-Satya
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[ilugd] Some Trainings/Support In Open OS/Softwares

2012-10-04 Thread sanjay gupta
Dear Sir

I am a solution provider and system integrator at Amritsar.
I want a training session for my Association member on Linux/Linux Variant.
How to install/manage this OS on Laptops/Desktops.
This will be great support to our community, if possible do reply me.

Best Regards
Sanjay Gupta
Gen.Secretary, ACTA Amritsar

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Re: [ilugd] Some Trainings/Support In Open OS/Softwares

2012-10-04 Thread sanjay gupta
Thanx again dear,

I will go to any extent to acheive my goals.
There is no problem in coming to Delhi for these sessions if I get
offered by someone.
I will take care of local trainings later on.
I have to cover the complete state of Punjab. I am in touch of all the
association of this state.

Regards
Sanjay Gupta

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote:
 On 4 October 2012 23:52, sanjay gupta sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear sir

 Extremely Thanks for the reply.
 I used to silently watch your communication as i am not familiar with
 the topic you discuss yet i have started my career way back to 1991 as
 a software developer. At present I am gen.secretary to ACTA (Amritsar
 Computer Traders Association) having more than 100 members formed for
 the welfare of its members and society primarly computer hardware
 traders. As most of the pc users are used to Microsoft, some want to
 switch to other but due to lack of
 support/training/exposure/availibility/suspicion could not started
 with other OS. I want to change the scenario here with the live
 session on Linux and this is possible only with the professional like
 you friends. If it is a commercial our association will bear the cost.
 If someone goes for Microsoft he has to pay nearly 2/- for single
 pc but he did not need to pay this much to do the work on internet,
 but due to non familiarity with other OS he is bound to transfer this
 much of foreign currency to Microsoft headquarters.
 I want you people support to achieve my goals.


 This sounds good, but did you mean to send it just to me,
 or to the mailing list at large (it has been sent just to me).
 Unfortunately, I am not in a position to offer Linux support
 in Amritsar, beyond maybe a one-off visit as part of a
 ILUG-Delhi initiative. So, please post this to the list, and
 maybe you will find someone willing to help out in Amritsar.

 I think that you will find two kinds of viewpoints in this regard:
 * There might be people willing to do this on a voluntary basis,
but then they will probably want a buy-in to FOSS ideals
from the side of your association, and that is something that
you will need to convince them about.
 * On a commercial basis, you should be able to find some
startup company, or some bright kids willing to work with your
association on this.

 Regards,
 Gora

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Re: [ilugd] Some Trainings/Support In Open OS/Softwares

2012-10-04 Thread Balwinder S Dheeman
On 10/05/2012 01:20 AM, sanjay gupta wrote:
 I will go to any extent to acheive my goals.
 There is no problem in coming to Delhi for these sessions if I get
 offered by someone.
 I will take care of local trainings later on.
 I have to cover the complete state of Punjab. I am in touch of all the
 association of this state.

Please contact me to plan the training sessions and even road-shows; I
shall/can spare a few weekends (Saturdays and Sundays only).

 On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote:
 On 4 October 2012 23:52, sanjay gupta sanjaygupta.amrit...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Extremely Thanks for the reply.
 I used to silently watch your communication as i am not familiar with
 the topic you discuss yet i have started my career way back to 1991 as
 a software developer. At present I am gen.secretary to ACTA (Amritsar
 Computer Traders Association) having more than 100 members formed for
 the welfare of its members and society primarly computer hardware
 traders. As most of the pc users are used to Microsoft, some want to
 switch to other but due to lack of
 support/training/exposure/availibility/suspicion could not started
 with other OS. I want to change the scenario here with the live
 session on Linux and this is possible only with the professional like
 you friends. If it is a commercial our association will bear the cost.
 If someone goes for Microsoft he has to pay nearly 2/- for single
 pc but he did not need to pay this much to do the work on internet,
 but due to non familiarity with other OS he is bound to transfer this
 much of foreign currency to Microsoft headquarters.
 I want you people support to achieve my goals.

 This sounds good, but did you mean to send it just to me,
 or to the mailing list at large (it has been sent just to me).
 Unfortunately, I am not in a position to offer Linux support
 in Amritsar, beyond maybe a one-off visit as part of a
 ILUG-Delhi initiative. So, please post this to the list, and
 maybe you will find someone willing to help out in Amritsar.

 I think that you will find two kinds of viewpoints in this regard:
 * There might be people willing to do this on a voluntary basis,
but then they will probably want a buy-in to FOSS ideals
from the side of your association, and that is something that
you will need to convince them about.
 * On a commercial basis, you should be able to find some
startup company, or some bright kids willing to work with your
association on this.

 Regards,
 Gora

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(http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/)


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Re: [ilugd] Some Trainings/Support In Open OS/Softwares

2012-10-04 Thread Gora Mohanty
On 5 October 2012 06:20, Balwinder S Dheeman bdhee...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 10/05/2012 01:20 AM, sanjay gupta wrote:
  I will go to any extent to acheive my goals.
  There is no problem in coming to Delhi for these sessions if I get
  offered by someone.
  I will take care of local trainings later on.
  I have to cover the complete state of Punjab. I am in touch of all the
  association of this state.

 Please contact me to plan the training sessions and even road-shows; I
 shall/can spare a few weekends (Saturdays and Sundays only).

[...]

Where are you based, and are you planning to do this in
Amritsar, or in Delhi? If it is the latter, I can also help out.

It might be best if we could plan an agenda for such trainings,
and announce them so as to get more attendees. Would it
be possible for you to take the initiative on this by creating a
page on http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/ ?

Regards,
Gora
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[ilugd] Need advice on setup of computers for a rural school

2012-10-04 Thread Gora Mohanty
Hi,

I have been out of this area for a while, and would like
to hear from people about who work with computer
infrastructure for rural schools, including educational
content. Here is some background:
1. A rural school in Orissa wants to provide 1-2 computers
for the children there, ranging from primary to class X.
They have spoken to Hole-in-the-wall (HIWEL), but the
quoted costs seem high to me. Would love to hear from
people who have worked with HIWEL.
(a) The school is sort of remote, but not very much so.
 A major highway is some 15km away, and a largish
 town is some 5km away, with reasonable road connectivity.
 They have wireless Internet access, and I am checking
 up on the electricity situation.
(b) The costs are quoted as at least 2.03 lakhs for a two-
 window HIWEL setup. They claim that the content is free,
 but where is the 2-lakh cost going into, then?
(c) Maintenance costs also seem high: 25K/computer annually.
 I would have been sort of OK with a 25K annual cost for the
 entire facility, regardless of the number of computers. If
 anyone has figures on what such support costs, that would
 be great.

2. I really dislike the idea of proprietary content. Would like
to hear from people who have actually set up similar content
for schools, ideally in more detail than a basic games,
multimedia, plus WIkipedia setup.

Regards,
Gora
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Re: [ilugd] Need advice on setup of computers for a rural school

2012-10-04 Thread Saurabh Jain
Shameless plug, but Thinvent has built solar computers just for this
purpose. Google for thinvent solar. I can also get a low cost ferrocement
structure done if space and security are issues.
On Oct 4, 2012 8:30 PM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I have been out of this area for a while, and would like
 to hear from people about who work with computer
 infrastructure for rural schools, including educational
 content. Here is some background:
 1. A rural school in Orissa wants to provide 1-2 computers
 for the children there, ranging from primary to class X.
 They have spoken to Hole-in-the-wall (HIWEL), but the
 quoted costs seem high to me. Would love to hear from
 people who have worked with HIWEL.
 (a) The school is sort of remote, but not very much so.
  A major highway is some 15km away, and a largish
  town is some 5km away, with reasonable road connectivity.
  They have wireless Internet access, and I am checking
  up on the electricity situation.
 (b) The costs are quoted as at least 2.03 lakhs for a two-
  window HIWEL setup. They claim that the content is free,
  but where is the 2-lakh cost going into, then?
 (c) Maintenance costs also seem high: 25K/computer annually.
  I would have been sort of OK with a 25K annual cost for the
  entire facility, regardless of the number of computers. If
  anyone has figures on what such support costs, that would
  be great.

 2. I really dislike the idea of proprietary content. Would like
 to hear from people who have actually set up similar content
 for schools, ideally in more detail than a basic games,
 multimedia, plus WIkipedia setup.

 Regards,
 Gora
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Re: [ilugd] Need advice on setup of computers for a rural school

2012-10-04 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I have been out of this area for a while, and would like
 to hear from people about who work with computer
 infrastructure for rural schools, including educational
 content. Here is some background:
 1. A rural school in Orissa wants to provide 1-2 computers
 for the children there, ranging from primary to class X.
 They have spoken to Hole-in-the-wall (HIWEL), but the
 quoted costs seem high to me. Would love to hear from
 people who have worked with HIWEL.
 (a) The school is sort of remote, but not very much so.
  A major highway is some 15km away, and a largish
  town is some 5km away, with reasonable road connectivity.
  They have wireless Internet access, and I am checking
  up on the electricity situation.
 (b) The costs are quoted as at least 2.03 lakhs for a two-
  window HIWEL setup. They claim that the content is free,
  but where is the 2-lakh cost going into, then?
 (c) Maintenance costs also seem high: 25K/computer annually.
  I would have been sort of OK with a 25K annual cost for the
  entire facility, regardless of the number of computers. If
  anyone has figures on what such support costs, that would
  be great.

 2. I really dislike the idea of proprietary content. Would like
 to hear from people who have actually set up similar content
 for schools, ideally in more detail than a basic games,
 multimedia, plus WIkipedia setup.

I am convinced that Raspberry pi is the way to go in scenarios like
these , as far as content is concerned i  tend to depend on khan
academy ,  sugar labs and squeak community , also i am preparing a
list of software from the few thousand  available in the Ubuntu
repositories. My long term goal is to start looking at course builder
from google to create content for both community as well as any school
or college.

-Satya
fossevents.in

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