Re: [ilugd] Open Democracy

2010-07-12 Thread Neeraj Semwal
Hello Everyone,
   Friends, my sincere gratitude to all of you who provided
me their expert views and healthy criticism and from the lively discussion
so far I concluded that this infant idea needs more refinements. I'll do
more of retrospection in this regard and  contact some of the NGOs and may
be I'll be able to launch the website within say 6-8 months. I'll definitely
post the link here for all of you to review it again.
Thanks to all of you for your support and criticism :)
With Regards,

Neeraj Semwal

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Re: [ilugd] Ilugd Digest, Vol 8, Issue 12

2010-07-11 Thread Neeraj Semwal
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:30 AM, wrote:

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> > Go right ahead, but please leave the politics off this list.  This is a
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> even kandalaya.org  needs a revamp along with our
> constitution. Its ugly looking boring site which has not been updated from
> last 6 years i believe.
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> One day, FOSS will not exist in India, because one day some politician will
> make take it as  revolt and say FOSS is anti-constitutional after having
> sweets from proprietary software vendors. We will not be able to defend it
> as it has nothing to do with Linux in India. Afterall we all are techies
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> not Politicians, leave alone being a responsible citizen of India.
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> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Neeraj Semwal 
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> > Hello Everyone,
> >   For the past 2-3 months I have been thinking of an
> > idea, an idea which has the potential of changing the lives of many.
> > I am thinking about making a new amended version of 'The Constitution of
> > India' and thus changing the way our 'Largest Democracy' is today and
> doing
> > the full development in the public domain making it open source and by
> > following the open source development model.
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> [... snip ...]
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> With Regards,
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> > Neeraj Semwal
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> Neeraj,
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> First, I agree with others that we need to keep politics off this list
> (especially such long rants). Second, IMO it's not the place of one citizen
> (or many) to "rewrite" the constitution, instead we need to select the
> right
> candidates who can do so as representatives of the public. I have started
> working on a tool/website for helping people make informed choices. If you
> want to make a difference you can contribute your time to developing that
> tool.
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> -- Anupam
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First of all I apologize to all those brevity seekers who find it to be the
soul of wit, perhaps I could've eaten alphabets and crapped out a better
essay but the real trouble with reality is that there's no background music,
may be thats why it appeared to be an unnecessary 'long political rant' to
some. And calling politics different from FOSS/Linux is prejudice because if
we say that Govt. is responsible for ensuring our freedom then it is the
resposiblity of the very same Govt. to ensure our Digital Freedom and
FOSS/Linux is all about digital fr

[ilugd] Open Democracy

2010-07-11 Thread Neeraj Semwal
 is another issue to add to this
infinite list.
My question is that why these politicians are not punished for their deeds,
why do they always become successful in "dividing us and then ruling us".
These politicians who don't even spare the money sanctioned for buying the
'Kafan' for our brave Soldiers do not deserve to be our representatives.

Such plight of our country would have brought tears into the eyes of Mahatma
Gandhi and every true patriot

The key reason is the lack of Proper Laws and the disinterest of the Govt.
to update the constitution. The Govt. makes amendments either in emergency
situations or to cater their own political needs.

Now instead of Twittering and Blogging against these unjust Govt. policies,
I am urging each one of you to help me with my idea
So my idea is to create a platform where we can review our constitution and
make changes in it, so that people from various fields can contribute
irrespective of their Caste, Creed, Region, Religion. So that we can device
a new method of election of Govt. and frame an entirely new constitution for
us to cater to the present needs
The full development will be done under Open Source License. So that
everyone is free to suggest changes and review them. I am still thinking
whether to use Wiki like Development or something else
I call this new form of democracy as 'Open Democracy'
So that we all can suggest and create new Laws and make valuable
contribution which can bring our country out of the claws of vote bank
politics and make our Beloved Nation Super Power of the World.
Remember, a patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his
Government

Friends,
308 members of the Constituent
Assembly<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constituent_Assembly_of_India>drafted
'The Constitution of India' and thus formed the World's Largest
Democracy
56 Men signed 'The Declaration of Independence' and created history
Now its our turn to frame a new constitution, out of the Billion plus
population, I think that participation of even 500 people from various
fields in this "Open Democracy' Development can make it a success.

I don't know whether it is legal to carry out such development in public
domain, I need some legal advice
But I believe that if there's something wrong, then those who have the
ability to take action, have the responsibility to take action. And we
people are having that ability because we've been blessed with an Open
source community and an ever vibrant development model like Open Source
development which our Forefathers were not having, so I think we have the
responsibility to carry out this development as 'A Service to our Nation'

After all Open Source Community hails the true spirit of Democracy:" A
community by the people, for the people and of the people"
Any kind of Suggestion and Criticism are Welcome.

With Regards,

Neeraj Semwal


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   - - Pablo Picasso
Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal and the Greatest ones make it Open
Source
   - - yeah yeah its by
me :P
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