Re: [ilugd] should the licenses be trivialised?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 shirish wrote: Just as a mailing list has the right to whom to give access to the mailing list who not I think its fair for a person to decide how whatever content s/he makes should be under some license or not. Agreed that whatever you write|do is attributed to do, but most things doesn't need an explicit attribution until you fear some one is going to steal it and take wrong credits for it. Surely nobody is going to say a mail written by you to be theirs. AFAIK one of the powers of the mailing list is attribution as to who said what, where, in what context,at what time. If I'm safe-guarding whatever I feel I have to contribute I don't think its trivializing any issue. Mailing list is not a place where you prove yourself to be right, its a place where you share your thoughts and experiences. Nobody is going to steal them at all. We are not meaning licensing the mail is wrong but we say it is just unnecessary as your mail are implicitly attributed to you, and you consciously know mailing list is a public interface and hence you need not explicitly specify a creative commons license to share it. - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [web] http://technofreak.in [blog] blog.technofreak.in [photos] photos.technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) [mobile] BLR +919845446647 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHYm9Vk4vYYS/wECYRAuX1AJ4giTPli9aLV4hNhKWMZPwp6ICqowCdEr2a JjhN+H+4O0QkwctjKUQ9SWM= =vzYe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [Fwd: [Ilugc] CFP - FOSS Conference '08]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - Original Message Subject: [Ilugc] CFP - FOSS Conference '08 Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:52:15 +0530 (IST) From: Bharathi Subramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ILUG-C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Indian Linux Users Group - Chennai [EMAIL PROTECTED] CALL FOR PARTICIPATION The Indian Linux Users Group, Chennai[1] Chapter, in association with NRC-FOSS[2], Chennai take great pleasure in inviting you to participate in the FOSS Conference to be held at MIT, Chromepet, Chennai from noon on Friday Feb 1st 2008 to noon on Sunday Feb 3rd 2008. THE ORGANISERS ILUGC is one of the oldest lugs in the country and has been continuously active since it was founded. It keeps a low profile and specialises in grass roots work all around Tamilnadu (and in the neighbouring states too). Under it's guidance, many lugs are active in colleges and towns all around Tamilnadu. At the same time, ILUGC members are in the forefront of the FOSS movement both at the national and international level. NRC-FOSS, a Central Government Project, funded by the DIT and jointly run by CDAC and AU-KBC, Chennai, for the past two and half years has been actively promoting FOSS in the academic domain. It's main focus has been getting FOSS introduced into the curriculum of Engineering Colleges in the country. Also apart from encouraging student projects in FOSS, it has been active in encouraging academia to release it's work under FOSS/Creative Commons licenses. AU-KBC Research Centre, MIT, Chennai has strengths in NLP, Bio-informatics, Wireless, Cryptography and Embedded computing, much of which uses FOSS tools and has released some of this research as FOSS. SCOPE The conference will focus on new users/contributors to FOSS. As Audience: First timers or newcomers. As Speakers: First time speakers. As contributors: Students who are doing their projects, academic personal who have worked with FOSS tools but are yet to release their work, and, of course, the huge surge of new users in the government domain. At the same time, provide a forum for interaction for more experienced developers who will be coming to the conference. CALL FOR PARTICIPATION We invite participation in the following areas - in order of importance. 1. Delegates to the conference. There is no fun in having a conference if there is no audience. Our primary focus is on audience. Please register as a delegate and encourage your friends to do so. We cannot guarantee transport and accommodation, but if you have a group of people who want to come and let us know early enough, we will try to get your travel and accommodation sponsored. 2. Volunteers. Volunteers are the lifeblood of a conference and will be treated as privileged persons. Volunteers are needed at the conference venue for myriad tasks. But, more important, are volunteers from outside Chennai who are needed to contact students, teachers, government employees and get them to come for the conference. We envisage holding training camps for teachers and government employees - - and will do so if we are able to convince enough of them to come. We can send people to address meetings to motivate people to come - if you organise the meetings. 3. Sprints. A FOSS conference that does not contribute documentation/ code is worthless. A sprint is where a group of people sit together and finish a task. We have had sprints before, once in Loyola college to do translation, and again, last year at MIT to do translation. A sprint can be for translating applications, mass fixing of bugs, doing long pending documentation, writing code etc,. Sprints need to be carefully planned, tasks laid down before hand, participants fixed, facilities arranged. If you are interested in organising a sprint, please register and attend the meeting in January for finalising proposed sprints. Since this is an entry-level conference, please be aware that you may need a day to train volunteers for the sprint before actually starting it. Some ideas: making a comprehensive list to be uploaded to the ILUGD Hall of Shame websites, completing a list of all lugs in India, making a directory of FOSS contributors in India, contribute to the OpenMoko project ... 4. Student projects in FOSS. We will give special place to student projects in FOSS - past, present and future. Now is the time for your project - register and exhibit it at the conference. Prizes will be given for the best projects. 5. Formal academic projects using FOSS tools. There are a huge number of these lying unsung in university and government archives. We invite academics to present their work here. 6. Talks. On any aspect of FOSS except installation issues. Talks will be of 30 minutes duration with 15 minutes for discussion. note: installation demos will be arranged anyway 7. Mini talks - one hall will be reserved for this. 10 minute talk followed by 5 questions. 8. Cultural contests - drawings, paintings,
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Surjo Das wrote: Its not a question of addiction. It's a matter of habit. Gabbar Singh equates to Amjad Khan and not to Amitabh Bachchan what Ram Gopal Varma is trying to do. He's fighting a losing battle. I went OT here. But this is the best example I could think of as I am also a movie buff. If you can't imagine anyone else but Amjad Khan as Gabbar Singh, then try changing the world from Windows to Linux on the desktop. The server battle is already won. My head whirled a bit, I have no clue of these Hindi cinema stuffs, its way too [OT] for me. You are comparing a OS being marketed|sold by a company with all its evil monopolistic business attitudes to an OS which is there all due to the selfless contribution of the community. Though the fact remains that Windows still occupies 95% of the world desktop, the reason is not people themselves embraced it, rather due to the early successful monopolistic business tactics that Windows became a synonym for Computers with the end users. But when it comes to servers, the people who use them know how a server should be and were intelligent enough to select GNU/Linux over Windows, which was a right decision. But, in the desktop market, we were never interested in doing marketing for GNU/Linux. Remember, Windows is not a Free OS, even Free as in Free Beer. So M$ was the need to do marketing because they were getting loads of $$. I agree that Redhat and Novel do too, but still you have an army of Free GNU/Linux distributions available. I second Shakthi's opinion that if at all there were strict piracy rules in our country, we would have seen more people adopting GNU/Linux. We do not have more weightage when we say You have to pay for Windows, but GNU/Linux is free. Nobody ever paid for their Windows. How much time are we talking of here. Microsoft released Windows 95 in 1995. They predicted that all PC's will be manufactured with pre-loaded Windows. Now we are in 2007. Red Hat came out with their 6.2 version in 1999 if I am not mistaken. Everyone dubbed it as the best and stable release then. Improvements kept happening on that over a period of time. We are now in 2007. How much will it take to change things. Microsoft released Vista in January 2007. It is June now. All PC's that are coming out from factories have Vista on them or with a Vista ready sticker. If I have enough $$$ as Uncle Bill, I will buy at least half of those PCs coming out and install Ubuntu in them, and make sure things just work ;) But, what we have with us (I mean the FOSS community) is the passionate users who are ready to help one another. Do you know how many users moved to or atl east started trying GNU/Linux after the release of Vista ? Do you know how many Windows users are still sticking with their Windows XPs ? I end up my arguments here. We are going to go nowhere with just arguments. If you really care, join those passionate GNU/Linux users who try to spread the awareness amongst their friends and neighbors. That is how we can conquer the world. :) - -- With Regards - --- Parthan aka Technofreak [weblog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com [flickr] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGgNOtk4vYYS/wECYRArrFAJwLXSqkW+9GAyxqRghe/qvTDOpskQCghf7q JQ36WFlLPSpnV+Fhw+riLJ0= =lFq3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Surjo Das wrote: It is a matter of choice of every individual user. Agreed! :) I am using Vista at home because my wife is familiar only with Windows. I didn't try to convert her to Linux as she has never heard of it. She heard it for the first time when I mentioned it to her. IMHO, there is never an option of conversion, there is either adoption or migration. And, people do not use GNU/Linux mainly because [1] They are not aware [2] They have not got the opportunity to try it [3] They need support to use it, especially when they encounter some problem. If you are a GNU/Linux user, you can very well help your wife in migration from Windows to GNU/Linux, but that is not going to happen in a day or a week, may be a month or two. I only reiterated the market reality. Microsoft has the desktop market already. If you happen to visit any middle class home who have a PC for their entertainment purpose, invariably you will find it loaded with Windows in at least 95% of the cases. On the server side, there are no doubts that Linux is a very strong player. This is because everything comes preloaded and people do not care much to find that there is an alternative. Also, they are not aware that they are actually paying for the Windows they get preloaded or the local assembler is using Pirated copies. I won't accept that people think GNU/Linux is not a match for Windows; I have installed and helped in migration of lot of my friends and they are now happy GNU/Linux users. Thanks to people like Dell, we have started to get the right kind of opportunity to go preloaded. Its we, GNU/Linux users have to take some responsibility in at least creating an awareness amongst our friends and relatives circle. - -- With Regards - --- Parthan aka Technofreak [weblog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com [flickr] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGgINhk4vYYS/wECYRAmb/AJ0dUhIIWrHC3aS6RzD93Sv8eV5/nwCfTBwE ObblgD2VFBKTsB+RIu7eIgc= =RjRh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [Fwd: [Ilugc] [Jobs] Openings at CollabNet]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - Original Message Subject: [Ilugc] [Jobs] Openings at CollabNet Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:56:39 -0700 From: Bhuvaneswaran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ILUG-C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ILUG-C [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, We have couple of openings in CollabNet Chennai office. 1) Subversion Developer Responsibilities: For Linux based developers, * Building GUI applications on Linux. For Windows developers, * Experience with Microsoft .NET and Windows APIs. * Experience building GUIs for Windows. * Experience working with client server applications in Windows. * Hands on experience in programming using TCP/IP on Windows will be an advantage. * Experience developing plug-ins for Microsoft Windows based applications. 2) Instantiation Engineer Instantiation Engineers work as part of our Operations Engineering team. They are responsible for creating and maintaining in-house tools, as well as implementing and upgrading customized installations of CollabNet Enterprise Edition and related product offerings. Instantiation Engineers regularly work with nearly every part of the application and every technology we use, rather than specializing in one area. It is critical that Instantiation Engineers have solid software engineering, architecture, and Unix-systems experience. Must be able to design implement and integrate subsystems as part of a large system. Must be able to work independently and in a team setting. Be able to articulate implementation issues to peers, management, and at cross-functional level. Must be able to evaluate alternative solutions from an implementation perspective. Must have excellent verbal and writing skills. Be able to propose solutions that may be outside of the specifications. Applicants with wide variety of technical experience on their resume are good candidates for this position. Education: + Bachelors' Degree in Computer Science and 4 to 6 years experience or equivalent Job requirements: + 5+ years experience with n-tier Web-based enterprise software + Strong background with Free/Open Source software and methodologies + Linux/Unix administration + Demonstrated scripting ability (Perl, Python, Ruby, etc.) + Web-based Application development using Java/J2EE technologies + Expertise with SQL and database servers (MySQL, Oracle, etc.) + Able to articulate test and use cases from customer functional requirements + Experience with installation and customization of Web-based enterprise products + Experience in data migration and software upgrades + Demonstrated ability to identify possible source of defects and issues + Strong multitasking ability + Demonstrated ability to jungle several activities at the same time and communicate status to others effectively. + Tomcat, JBoss, and CVS/Subversion experience preferred Responsibilities: + Work closely with peers to investigate, develop, package, test, and deliver custom tools + Develop and maintain one-off customisations to add value specific to one customers use of CollabNet products + Act as liaison to Professional Services group for customer specific work + Design and develop tools to address internal corporate needs + Coordinate activities with other Instantiation Engineers in multiple locations If you are interested and if your profile matches any of above job description, please forward your resume to Balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please specify [Ilugc] Position name (Ex: [Ilugc] Subversion Developer) in the email subject. PLEASE DO NOT FORWARD THEM TO ME. For more job openings at CollabNet, please refer to following web page: http://www.collab.net/about/careers/india_listings.html Thank you! - -- Regards, Bhuvaneswaran www.symonds.net/~bhuvan/ GPG: 0x7A13E5B0 ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc - -- With Regards - --- Parthan aka Technofreak [weblog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com [flickr] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak [irc] techno_freak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGTVs/k4vYYS/wECYRAsH3AJ47ZE/pAST73cV1F2tE3iM7K2GcugCglYNP yPc3YeQ5FS0vVMnob8D0qgQ= =0hoE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
