Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together

2008-01-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 10-Jan-08, at 10:32 AM, Raj Shekhar wrote:

>>> If you are talking about ACID compliance, innodb &
>>> falcon table engines are ACID complaint.
>>
>> an the rest of it is not?
>
> Quite a few of the mysql engines are not ACID - MyISAM being most
> notable of them.  Unluckily, myisam comes as the default table engine
> with almost all mysql distributions that I have seen. Since mysql
> supports table engines as plugins, there are some commercial as  
> well as
> free ACID compliant table engines other than innodb and falcon.

non troll: how close to ansi compliance is mysql? Can one write an  
ansi compliant sql and run it on mysql? Next, an acid compliant ansi  
compliant sql on mysql? If not, why does mysql not follow standards -  
which why the so called troll bait was floated.


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Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together

2008-01-09 Thread Raj Shekhar
in infinite wisdom Kenneth Gonsalves spoke thus  On 01/10/2008 06:01 AM:


troll bait- ignored

> 
>> If you are talking about ACID compliance, innodb &
>> falcon table engines are ACID complaint.
> 
> an the rest of it is not?

Quite a few of the mysql engines are not ACID - MyISAM being most 
notable of them.  Unluckily, myisam comes as the default table engine 
with almost all mysql distributions that I have seen. Since mysql 
supports table engines as plugins, there are some commercial as well as 
free ACID compliant table engines other than innodb and falcon.

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Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together

2008-01-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 09-Jan-08, at 10:24 PM, Raj Shekhar wrote:

>> in
>> fact it is better if you dont understand the basics or you may get
>> confused wondering why you attended
>
> mysql is a rdbms.

good to hear - when did it become an rdbms?

> If you are talking about ACID compliance, innodb &
> falcon table engines are ACID complaint.

an the rest of it is not?


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Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together

2008-01-09 Thread Raj Shekhar
in infinite wisdom Kenneth Gonsalves spoke thus  On 01/09/2008 05:41 PM:

> in  
> fact it is better if you dont understand the basics or you may get  
> confused wondering why you attended

mysql is a rdbms.  If you are talking about ACID compliance, innodb & 
falcon table engines are ACID complaint.

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Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together

2008-01-09 Thread Atanu Datta
On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008 1:11:27 pm Raj Mathur wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Atanu Datta wrote:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > MySQL will conduct a session in Bangalore and Delhi during the OSIW
> > (Open Source India Week) where they want feedback on the topics the
> > attendees will be interested in knowing more about. Following are a
> > few topics that came forth when we were cooking the programme with
> > MySQL's David Axmark and Brian Aker.
> >
> > 1. Zero hassles transition from MS Access/Oracle to MySQL
> > 2. How to do Stored Procedures, Triggers & Views in MySQL
> > 3. How to write storage engines for MySQL
> >
> > Those are some of the things that our DBA wants to know more about.
> > Obviously, there should be many more topics that you all want covered
> > or wanna discuss. Please throw your ideas, we'll put all of 'em in
> > the melting pot, and hand it over to the Brian so that he can design
> > the final programme.
>
> Is participation in the sessions free?  If not, will the people who make
> suggestions be paid for improving the quality of the course? :)
>
> -- Raju

The question was bang on target. ;-)

People whose suggested topic(s) are included in the workshop will be invited 
to attend the workshop for free. Some of the early registrants from iLUG-D 
will also be registered for free. Rest of the participants will be charged a 
nominal fee. And people like me are not invited at all, cuz I don't even 
understand the basics of an RDBMS. The workshop is only targeted to the 
techies. :-(

Best,
Atanu




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Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together

2008-01-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 09-Jan-08, at 1:30 PM, Atanu Datta wrote:

> nominal fee. And people like me are not invited at all, cuz I don't  
> even
> understand the basics of an RDBMS.

you dont need to understand the basics of an RDBMS to use mysql - in  
fact it is better if you dont understand the basics or you may get  
confused wondering why you attended


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Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together

2008-01-09 Thread Dhiraj Gaur
I would be intrested for sure

On Jan 9, 2008 1:30 PM, Atanu Datta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008 1:11:27 pm Raj Mathur wrote:
> > On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Atanu Datta wrote:
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > MySQL will conduct a session in Bangalore and Delhi during the OSIW
> > > (Open Source India Week) where they want feedback on the topics the
> > > attendees will be interested in knowing more about. Following are a
> > > few topics that came forth when we were cooking the programme with
> > > MySQL's David Axmark and Brian Aker.
> > >
> > > 1. Zero hassles transition from MS Access/Oracle to MySQL
> > > 2. How to do Stored Procedures, Triggers & Views in MySQL
> > > 3. How to write storage engines for MySQL
> > >
> > > Those are some of the things that our DBA wants to know more about.
> > > Obviously, there should be many more topics that you all want covered
> > > or wanna discuss. Please throw your ideas, we'll put all of 'em in
> > > the melting pot, and hand it over to the Brian so that he can design
> > > the final programme.
> >
> > Is participation in the sessions free?  If not, will the people who make
> > suggestions be paid for improving the quality of the course? :)
> >
> > -- Raju
>
> The question was bang on target. ;-)
>
> People whose suggested topic(s) are included in the workshop will be
> invited
> to attend the workshop for free. Some of the early registrants from iLUG-D
> will also be registered for free. Rest of the participants will be charged
> a
> nominal fee. And people like me are not invited at all, cuz I don't even
> understand the basics of an RDBMS. The workshop is only targeted to the
> techies. :-(
>
> Best,
> Atanu
>
>
>
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Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together

2008-01-09 Thread Atanu Datta
On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008 1:11:27 pm Raj Mathur wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Atanu Datta wrote:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > MySQL will conduct a session in Bangalore and Delhi during the OSIW
> > (Open Source India Week) where they want feedback on the topics the
> > attendees will be interested in knowing more about. Following are a
> > few topics that came forth when we were cooking the programme with
> > MySQL's David Axmark and Brian Aker.
> >
> > 1. Zero hassles transition from MS Access/Oracle to MySQL
> > 2. How to do Stored Procedures, Triggers & Views in MySQL
> > 3. How to write storage engines for MySQL
> >
> > Those are some of the things that our DBA wants to know more about.
> > Obviously, there should be many more topics that you all want covered
> > or wanna discuss. Please throw your ideas, we'll put all of 'em in
> > the melting pot, and hand it over to the Brian so that he can design
> > the final programme.
> 
> Is participation in the sessions free?  If not, will the people who make
> suggestions be paid for improving the quality of the course? :)
>
> -- Raju

The question was bang on target. ;-)

People whose suggested topic(s) are included in the workshop will be invited 
to attend the workshop for free. Some of the early registrants from iLUG-D 
will also be registered for free. Rest of the participants will be charged a 
nominal fee. And people like me are not invited at all, cuz I don't even 
understand the basics of an RDBMS. The workshop is only targeted to the 
techies. :-(

Best,
Atanu



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Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together

2008-01-09 Thread Linux Lingam
[snip]

>
> Is participation in the sessions free?  If not, will the people who make
> suggestions be paid for improving the quality of the course? :)
>
> -- Raju


heheheee. one cup of your favourite coffee from me for that killer-question!



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Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together

2008-01-08 Thread Raj Mathur
On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Atanu Datta wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> MySQL will conduct a session in Bangalore and Delhi during the OSIW
> (Open Source India Week) where they want feedback on the topics the
> attendees will be interested in knowing more about. Following are a
> few topics that came forth when we were cooking the programme with
> MySQL's David Axmark and Brian Aker.
>
> 1. Zero hassles transition from MS Access/Oracle to MySQL
> 2. How to do Stored Procedures, Triggers & Views in MySQL
> 3. How to write storage engines for MySQL
>
> Those are some of the things that our DBA wants to know more about.
> Obviously, there should be many more topics that you all want covered
> or wanna discuss. Please throw your ideas, we'll put all of 'em in
> the melting pot, and hand it over to the Brian so that he can design
> the final programme.

Is participation in the sessions free?  If not, will the people who make 
suggestions be paid for improving the quality of the course? :)

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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together

2008-01-08 Thread Atanu Datta
Hi all!

MySQL will conduct a session in Bangalore and Delhi during the OSIW (Open 
Source India Week) where they want feedback on the topics the attendees will 
be interested in knowing more about. Following are a few topics that came 
forth when we were cooking the programme with MySQL's David Axmark and Brian 
Aker. 

1. Zero hassles transition from MS Access/Oracle to MySQL
2. How to do Stored Procedures, Triggers & Views in MySQL
3. How to write storage engines for MySQL

Those are some of the things that our DBA wants to know more about. Obviously, 
there should be many more topics that you all want covered or wanna discuss. 
Please throw your ideas, we'll put all of 'em in the melting pot, and hand it 
over to the Brian so that he can design the final programme. 

Best,
Atanu Datta
Team LFY


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