Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together
On 10-Jan-08, at 10:32 AM, Raj Shekhar wrote: >>> If you are talking about ACID compliance, innodb & >>> falcon table engines are ACID complaint. >> >> an the rest of it is not? > > Quite a few of the mysql engines are not ACID - MyISAM being most > notable of them. Unluckily, myisam comes as the default table engine > with almost all mysql distributions that I have seen. Since mysql > supports table engines as plugins, there are some commercial as > well as > free ACID compliant table engines other than innodb and falcon. non troll: how close to ansi compliance is mysql? Can one write an ansi compliant sql and run it on mysql? Next, an acid compliant ansi compliant sql on mysql? If not, why does mysql not follow standards - which why the so called troll bait was floated. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together
in infinite wisdom Kenneth Gonsalves spoke thus On 01/10/2008 06:01 AM: troll bait- ignored > >> If you are talking about ACID compliance, innodb & >> falcon table engines are ACID complaint. > > an the rest of it is not? Quite a few of the mysql engines are not ACID - MyISAM being most notable of them. Unluckily, myisam comes as the default table engine with almost all mysql distributions that I have seen. Since mysql supports table engines as plugins, there are some commercial as well as free ACID compliant table engines other than innodb and falcon. -- raj shekhar facts: http://rajshekhar.net | opinions: http://rajshekhar.net/blog Yoda of Borg are we: Futile is resistance. Assimilate you, we will 'Borg? Sounds Swedish.' - Lily, Star Trek First Contact ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together
On 09-Jan-08, at 10:24 PM, Raj Shekhar wrote: >> in >> fact it is better if you dont understand the basics or you may get >> confused wondering why you attended > > mysql is a rdbms. good to hear - when did it become an rdbms? > If you are talking about ACID compliance, innodb & > falcon table engines are ACID complaint. an the rest of it is not? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together
in infinite wisdom Kenneth Gonsalves spoke thus On 01/09/2008 05:41 PM: > in > fact it is better if you dont understand the basics or you may get > confused wondering why you attended mysql is a rdbms. If you are talking about ACID compliance, innodb & falcon table engines are ACID complaint. -- raj shekhar facts: http://rajshekhar.net | opinions: http://rajshekhar.net/blog Yoda of Borg are we: Futile is resistance. Assimilate you, we will 'Borg? Sounds Swedish.' - Lily, Star Trek First Contact ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together
On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008 1:11:27 pm Raj Mathur wrote: > On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Atanu Datta wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > MySQL will conduct a session in Bangalore and Delhi during the OSIW > > (Open Source India Week) where they want feedback on the topics the > > attendees will be interested in knowing more about. Following are a > > few topics that came forth when we were cooking the programme with > > MySQL's David Axmark and Brian Aker. > > > > 1. Zero hassles transition from MS Access/Oracle to MySQL > > 2. How to do Stored Procedures, Triggers & Views in MySQL > > 3. How to write storage engines for MySQL > > > > Those are some of the things that our DBA wants to know more about. > > Obviously, there should be many more topics that you all want covered > > or wanna discuss. Please throw your ideas, we'll put all of 'em in > > the melting pot, and hand it over to the Brian so that he can design > > the final programme. > > Is participation in the sessions free? If not, will the people who make > suggestions be paid for improving the quality of the course? :) > > -- Raju The question was bang on target. ;-) People whose suggested topic(s) are included in the workshop will be invited to attend the workshop for free. Some of the early registrants from iLUG-D will also be registered for free. Rest of the participants will be charged a nominal fee. And people like me are not invited at all, cuz I don't even understand the basics of an RDBMS. The workshop is only targeted to the techies. :-( Best, Atanu ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together
On 09-Jan-08, at 1:30 PM, Atanu Datta wrote: > nominal fee. And people like me are not invited at all, cuz I don't > even > understand the basics of an RDBMS. you dont need to understand the basics of an RDBMS to use mysql - in fact it is better if you dont understand the basics or you may get confused wondering why you attended -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together
I would be intrested for sure On Jan 9, 2008 1:30 PM, Atanu Datta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008 1:11:27 pm Raj Mathur wrote: > > On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Atanu Datta wrote: > > > Hi all! > > > > > > MySQL will conduct a session in Bangalore and Delhi during the OSIW > > > (Open Source India Week) where they want feedback on the topics the > > > attendees will be interested in knowing more about. Following are a > > > few topics that came forth when we were cooking the programme with > > > MySQL's David Axmark and Brian Aker. > > > > > > 1. Zero hassles transition from MS Access/Oracle to MySQL > > > 2. How to do Stored Procedures, Triggers & Views in MySQL > > > 3. How to write storage engines for MySQL > > > > > > Those are some of the things that our DBA wants to know more about. > > > Obviously, there should be many more topics that you all want covered > > > or wanna discuss. Please throw your ideas, we'll put all of 'em in > > > the melting pot, and hand it over to the Brian so that he can design > > > the final programme. > > > > Is participation in the sessions free? If not, will the people who make > > suggestions be paid for improving the quality of the course? :) > > > > -- Raju > > The question was bang on target. ;-) > > People whose suggested topic(s) are included in the workshop will be > invited > to attend the workshop for free. Some of the early registrants from iLUG-D > will also be registered for free. Rest of the participants will be charged > a > nominal fee. And people like me are not invited at all, cuz I don't even > understand the basics of an RDBMS. The workshop is only targeted to the > techies. :-( > > Best, > Atanu > > > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together
On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008 1:11:27 pm Raj Mathur wrote: > On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Atanu Datta wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > MySQL will conduct a session in Bangalore and Delhi during the OSIW > > (Open Source India Week) where they want feedback on the topics the > > attendees will be interested in knowing more about. Following are a > > few topics that came forth when we were cooking the programme with > > MySQL's David Axmark and Brian Aker. > > > > 1. Zero hassles transition from MS Access/Oracle to MySQL > > 2. How to do Stored Procedures, Triggers & Views in MySQL > > 3. How to write storage engines for MySQL > > > > Those are some of the things that our DBA wants to know more about. > > Obviously, there should be many more topics that you all want covered > > or wanna discuss. Please throw your ideas, we'll put all of 'em in > > the melting pot, and hand it over to the Brian so that he can design > > the final programme. > > Is participation in the sessions free? If not, will the people who make > suggestions be paid for improving the quality of the course? :) > > -- Raju The question was bang on target. ;-) People whose suggested topic(s) are included in the workshop will be invited to attend the workshop for free. Some of the early registrants from iLUG-D will also be registered for free. Rest of the participants will be charged a nominal fee. And people like me are not invited at all, cuz I don't even understand the basics of an RDBMS. The workshop is only targeted to the techies. :-( Best, Atanu ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together
[snip] > > Is participation in the sessions free? If not, will the people who make > suggestions be paid for improving the quality of the course? :) > > -- Raju heheheee. one cup of your favourite coffee from me for that killer-question! :-) regards niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together
On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Atanu Datta wrote: > Hi all! > > MySQL will conduct a session in Bangalore and Delhi during the OSIW > (Open Source India Week) where they want feedback on the topics the > attendees will be interested in knowing more about. Following are a > few topics that came forth when we were cooking the programme with > MySQL's David Axmark and Brian Aker. > > 1. Zero hassles transition from MS Access/Oracle to MySQL > 2. How to do Stored Procedures, Triggers & Views in MySQL > 3. How to write storage engines for MySQL > > Those are some of the things that our DBA wants to know more about. > Obviously, there should be many more topics that you all want covered > or wanna discuss. Please throw your ideas, we'll put all of 'em in > the melting pot, and hand it over to the Brian so that he can design > the final programme. Is participation in the sessions free? If not, will the people who make suggestions be paid for improving the quality of the course? :) -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology & Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] MySQL session at OSIW; let's design the programme together
Hi all! MySQL will conduct a session in Bangalore and Delhi during the OSIW (Open Source India Week) where they want feedback on the topics the attendees will be interested in knowing more about. Following are a few topics that came forth when we were cooking the programme with MySQL's David Axmark and Brian Aker. 1. Zero hassles transition from MS Access/Oracle to MySQL 2. How to do Stored Procedures, Triggers & Views in MySQL 3. How to write storage engines for MySQL Those are some of the things that our DBA wants to know more about. Obviously, there should be many more topics that you all want covered or wanna discuss. Please throw your ideas, we'll put all of 'em in the melting pot, and hand it over to the Brian so that he can design the final programme. Best, Atanu Datta Team LFY ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/