Re: [ilugd] BOSS on ILUGD list -- sharing a few thoughts
hi all: would like to share some thoughts -- with you, and thru you with ILUG-D members -- in the light of the exchanges at ILUG-D on BOSS. I wouldn't put this as a clarification or official response, but more as an exchange of information / perspective. I hope this will lead to cohesion contribution to/from BOSS efforts. 1. Thanks to Nishant, Nalin, etc. for their appreciative sentiments, and to Karanbir, Kartik, Raj Mathur and others for their frank opinions. 2. Attn.: Manu Mohan : the workshops are targeted primarily at govt staff. We also have plans to support / organize a few sessions focusing on Academic segment. The FOSS in Higher Education, is in fact the major activity of NRCFOSS at AU-KBC Research Centre (for which Satyaakam is one of the key persons). 3. BOSS distro : Both binary the source code (with allied stuff) are available from the repository http://bosslinux.in/downloads 4. Indian language localisation : The .po files files, keyboard layouts, etc., are available at http://downloads.bosslinux.in/Localisation/ As vikram pointed out, the community will have to decide whether it is acceptable or not. I had some brief exchanges with Karunakar and Gora, and hope to get some focussed action in the near future. 5. There are a few packages like Bulk Document Converter, Presentation Tool, etc. -- integrated with BOSS distro, but could be candidates for stand alone packages. 6. Help Desk -- toll free number 1 800 4250 455 is operative from C-DAC Chennai Centre. Currently, there are 4-5 persons responding to queries during office working hours (10 - 5, mon-fri) catering to queries -- in Eng, Hindi, Tamil, Malayalam, Telugu and Kannada. Mostly, the queries are requests for BOSS CDs/DVDs and on installation issues. bossli...@cdac.in http://webmail.cdac.in/twig/index.php?s%5Bmailbox%5D=mail%2Fsent-mails%5BmailGroup%5D=%2As%5Bmail_startmsg%5D=1s%5Bsortby%5D=dates%5Bsortbyway%5D=1s%5Bdelete-return%5D=msgviews%5Bmailtree%5D=0%7Cc%5Bf%5D=mailc%5Ba%5D=composeform%5bto%5d=bossli...@cdac.in is the email id for sending quries. thanks and best wishes Srinivasan. Dr. S. Srinivasan Project Scientist, NRCFOSS C-DAC Chennai srinivas...@cdac.in http://webmail.cdac.in/twig/index.php?s%5Bmailbox%5D=mail%2Fsent-mails%5BmailGroup%5D=%2As%5Bmail_startmsg%5D=1s%5Bsortby%5D=dates%5Bsortbyway%5D=1s%5Bdelete-return%5D=msgviews%5Bmailtree%5D=0%7Cc%5Bf%5D=mailc%5Ba%5D=composeform%5bto%5d=srinivas...@cdac.in 94443 02439 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] BOSS on ILUGD list -- sharing a few thoughts
On Tuesday 01 Sep 2009, Srinivasan Sundararajan wrote: would like to share some thoughts -- with you, and thru you with ILUG-D members -- in the light of the exchanges at ILUG-D on BOSS. I wouldn't put this as a clarification or official response, but more as an exchange of information / perspective. I hope this will lead to cohesion contribution to/from BOSS efforts. This is great, and I for one am glad to see the BOSS Linux team interacting with the community on a peer basis. Hope this can help move both BOSS and FOSS (pun unintended) in India forward. 3. BOSS distro : Both binary the source code (with allied stuff) are available from the repository http://bosslinux.in/downloads 4. Indian language localisation : The .po files files, keyboard layouts, etc., are available at http://downloads.bosslinux.in/Localisation/ Not an expert in these matters, but AFAIR the issue was with font licensing (open to correction). Would it help if we open a Wiki page where people can list out perceived issues with BOSS Linux (from the community/FOSS point of view), which we could then collate and discuss? 5. There are a few packages like Bulk Document Converter, Presentation Tool, etc. -- integrated with BOSS distro, but could be candidates for stand alone packages. What licences are these available under? If they aren't already, please consider making them FOSS so everyone (including BOSS users) can benefit from community participation and the momentum that brings to any software. BOSS being a purely Indian distribution is likely to see a lot of traction from the community here, most of whom would support and advocate an Indian Linux distribution if some minor thorns were pulled out. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] BOSS on ILUGD list -- sharing a few thoughts
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: This is great, and I for one am glad to see the BOSS Linux team interacting with the community on a peer basis. Hope this can help move both BOSS and FOSS (pun unintended) in India forward. thanks. BOSS was the mandate for NRCFOSS Phase I. In Phase II the focus is expected to be more on applications, along with stabilisation of BOSS as a distro. 4. Indian language localisation : The .po files files, keyboard Not an expert in these matters, me too !! but AFAIR the issue was with font licensing (open to correction). Would it help if we open a Wiki page where people can list out perceived issues with BOSS Linux (from the community/FOSS point of view), which we could then collate and discuss? please do open a wiki page. at best we can consolidate the issues -- in the true FOSS spirit, bugs could be identified so that some way to solve them (at worst isolate them) could emerge. 5. There are a few packages like Bulk Document Converter, Presentation Tool, etc. -- integrated with BOSS distro, but could be candidates for stand alone packages. What licences are these available under? If they aren't already, please consider making them FOSS so everyone (including BOSS users) can benefit from community participation and the momentum that brings to any software. BOSS being a purely Indian distribution is likely to see a lot of traction from the community here, most of whom would support and advocate an Indian Linux distribution if some minor thorns were pulled out. will work on these aspecs. Srinivasan Project Scientist, CDAC/NRCFOSS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] BOSS on ILUGD list -- sharing a few thoughts
Srinivasan Sundararajan srini...@gmail.com wrote: please do open a wiki page. at best we can consolidate the issues -- in the true FOSS spirit, bugs could be identified so that some way to solve them (at worst isolate them) could emerge. http://bugzilla.bosslinux.in/cgi-bin/bugzilla/index.cgi does not seem to exist. 5. There are a few packages like Bulk Document Converter, Presentation Tool, etc. -- integrated with BOSS distro, but could be candidates for stand alone packages. The converter is under GNUGPL2. The package needs to be updated for OO-3.0. It is script basically and definitely requires OO at least Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] BOSS on ILUGD list -- sharing a few thoughts
On Tuesday 01 Sep 2009, Srinivasan Sundararajan wrote: [snip] please do open a wiki page. at best we can consolidate the issues -- in the true FOSS spirit, bugs could be identified so that some way to solve them (at worst isolate them) could emerge. Wiki page opened at: http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/BOSSLinuxDiscussion Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] BOSS on ILUGD list -- sharing a few thoughts
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:31:59 +0530
From: Srinivasan Sundararajan srini...@gmail.com
would like to share some thoughts -- with you, and thru you with ILUG-D
members -- in the light of the exchanges at ILUG-D on BOSS. I wouldn't put
this as a clarification or official response, but more as an exchange of
information / perspective. I hope this will lead to cohesion
contribution to/from BOSS efforts.
This is great!
1. Thanks to Nishant, Nalin, etc. for their appreciative sentiments, and
to Karanbir, Kartik, Raj Mathur and others for their frank opinions.
Thanks for looking at my opinion as frank :)
3. BOSS distro : Both binary the source code (with allied stuff) are
available from the repository http://bosslinux.in/downloads
Thanks for pointer.
4. Indian language localisation : The .po files files, keyboard layouts,
etc., are available at http://downloads.bosslinux.in/Localisation/
I think only .deb files are not much useful. You may want to provide
source of it - so that other distro(s) can use it. (.dsc,
.orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz - all these three) (Same as you have in
/downloads above).
As vikram pointed out, the community will have to decide whether it is
acceptable or not. I had some brief exchanges with Karunakar and Gora, and
hope to get some focussed action in the near future.
Are you ready to take feedback (positive or negative)?
5. There are a few packages like Bulk Document Converter, Presentation
Tool, etc. -- integrated with BOSS distro, but could be candidates for
stand alone packages.
These tools can be great aid as contribution to community. Someone
started working on it, but it did not go through Debian
standards/procedures. See:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497399
(I am still ready to help, ball is in your court!)
6. Help Desk -- toll free number 1 800 4250 455 is operative from C-DAC
Chennai Centre. Currently, there are 4-5 persons responding to queries
during office working hours (10 - 5, mon-fri) catering to queries -- in
Eng, Hindi, Tamil, Malayalam, Telugu and Kannada. Mostly, the queries are
requests for BOSS CDs/DVDs and on installation issues.
Is IRC still active. Most developers will be comfortable with
IRC/Mailing List rather than call. But, this is very useful to users.
--
Cheers,
Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_
Debian GNU/Linux Developer | Identica: @kartikm
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Re: [ilugd] BOSS on ILUGD list -- sharing a few thoughts
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Kartik Mistry kartik.mis...@gmail.comwrote: 4. Indian language localisation : The .po files files, keyboard layouts, etc., are available at http://downloads.bosslinux.in/Localisation/ Are you ready to take feedback (positive or negative)? i am looking at two action steps, to begin with : a) pick up a set of .po files (translated strings) from C-DAC output * get it vetted / evaluated by the concerned community expert * the feed back (positive / negative) will enable knowledge update of our team * of course, there might be some difference of opinion in some cases -- I understand that we are expected to follow the state govt authorised dictionary. but i look at it as an opportunity, to talk to the state govt experts. [am yet to sit with mr vasudevan -- i thought i will begin with tamil] b) involve the community contributors (to which we can add persons whom we get in touch with thru our academic and other interactions) anyway, i will try to get this going thru the indlinux channel. 5. There are a few packages like Bulk Document Converter, Presentation Tool, etc. -- These tools can be great aid as contribution to community. Someone started working on it, but it did not go through Debian standards/procedures. See: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497399 (I am still ready to help, ball is in your court!) thanks for the offer. will try to get back to you as soon as possible. Is IRC still active. Most developers will be comfortable with IRC/Mailing List rather than call. But, this is very useful to users. IRC is alive. The phase changes (NRCFOSS from I to II, BOSS Support Project, etc.), the internal attritions, and usual attrition / transfer / internal workload had contributed to subdued (if not totally mute) interactions. i have been primarily been drafted in to ensure interfacing with external agencies. will strive to do a reasonable job, at least. with best wishes srinivasan. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
