Re: [ilugd] Choosing input methods in Firefox and Thunderbird.
Hi, Gora Mohanty wrote: > --- "आशीष शà¥à¤•à¥à¤²à¤¾ \"Wah Java !!\"" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > >>A good tool for typing in Indic scripts. But, I've a problem using >>it, the transliteration style (or standard) used by this IME is >>bit different from the style used in indic input methods provided >>with SCIM or IIIMF. > > > I imagine that you are referring to the ITRANS transliteration scheme > (http://www.aczoom.com/itrans/), though at least SCIM has other > phonetic methods. There is no reason that ITRANS cannot be implemented > in the Firefox IME. I agree with you that it probably should be, as > it is the de-facto standard. Thanx > > >> So, what if someone provides a native extension X which >>captures all keypress events and forwards it to the desired native >>input method, and the desired native input method then translate >>that keycode and returns it back to the plugin X. The plugin X then >>will then forward the translated text to the Firefox text component. > > [...] > > I do not follow what you are proposing here. Firefox works on platforms > other than those running X, so that an extension cannot assume an > underlying X server. This is why I'm mentioning here native. A native IME, when hooked into Firefox running (on Microsoft Windows) will use IMM (Input Method Manager) API, whereas IME hooked into Firefox running (on X-Windows) will use XIM (or explicitly use SCIM or IIIMF). BTW, there has to be separate binaries for different platforms (if Firefox doesn't supports loading ELF executables on Microsoft Windows) ? > If you are running Firefox on a system with X, > why would you not run SCIM directly, instead of through this roundabout > method? What you mean by running SCIM. Do u mean executing /usr/bin/scim ? Well I've done that and there is no change in Firefox or Thunderbird. They're still typing in English. BTW, no SCIM chooser menus appears except a icon of "keyboard" gets stored in my system tray. Well on running SCIM, it registers itself with X Server. My "list_im" program tells me this (appeared sometimes in this mailing list or its devel mailing list with subject "Listing available XIM (X Input Method) services"). But my question is how an generic X application can use that X Input Method ? Is there any protocol for input methods ? Or application has to explicitly made aware about that input method (in my case it is SCIM and IIIMF) ? > > Regards, > Gora > My Regards too ;-), Ashish Shukla "Wah Java !!" -- आशीष शुक्ला alias "Wah Java !!" http://wahjava.blogspot.com/ The only key to optimal life is precision. -- Ashish Shukla "Wah Java !!" http://wahjava.blogspot.com/2006/03/useful-thought.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Choosing input methods in Firefox and Thunderbird.
--- "à¤à¤¶à¥à¤· शà¥à¤à¥à¤²à¤¾ \"Wah Java !!\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > A good tool for typing in Indic scripts. But, I've a problem using > it, the transliteration style (or standard) used by this IME is > bit different from the style used in indic input methods provided > with SCIM or IIIMF. I imagine that you are referring to the ITRANS transliteration scheme (http://www.aczoom.com/itrans/), though at least SCIM has other phonetic methods. There is no reason that ITRANS cannot be implemented in the Firefox IME. I agree with you that it probably should be, as it is the de-facto standard. > So, what if someone provides a native extension X which > captures all keypress events and forwards it to the desired native > input method, and the desired native input method then translate > that keycode and returns it back to the plugin X. The plugin X then > will then forward the translated text to the Firefox text component. [...] I do not follow what you are proposing here. Firefox works on platforms other than those running X, so that an extension cannot assume an underlying X server. If you are running Firefox on a system with X, why would you not run SCIM directly, instead of through this roundabout method? Regards, Gora __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Choosing input methods in Firefox and Thunderbird.
Hi Guntupalli Karunakar, Guntupalli Karunakar wrote: > use this, > http://indicime.mozdev.org/ > it gives a toolbar to select languages & keyb layouts for input. A good tool for typing in Indic scripts. But, I've a problem using it, the transliteration style (or standard) used by this IME is bit different from the style used in indic input methods provided with SCIM or IIIMF. The way this input method hooks into the Firefox input subsystem is via a attaching a handler for keyPress event. And then it translates all the key events. So, what if someone provides a native extension X which captures all keypress events and forwards it to the desired native input method, and the desired native input method then translate that keycode and returns it back to the plugin X. The plugin X then will then forward the translated text to the Firefox text component. And plus it can also provide a input method selection menu in context menus of text component. BTW, I'm on Firefox 1.0.4 (not 1.5), so this might already be implemented in 1.5. I don't know about that. > > this may also interest you. > http://padma.mozdev.org > shows many non-unicode indic websites on firefox. > > Karunakar > Thanx Ashish Shukla P.S. BTW what is "WX" in "WX (Phonetic)" ? -- आशीष शुक्ला alias "Wah Java !!" http://wahjava.blogspot.com/ The only key to optimal life is precision. -- Ashish Shukla "Wah Java !!" http://wahjava.blogspot.com/2006/03/useful-thought.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Choosing input methods in Firefox and Thunderbird.
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:45:06 +0530 "आशीष शुक्ला \"Wah Java !!\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I want to know how to choose input methods in Firefox and > Thunderbird. None of the text components are aware of input methods > and didn't offer any context menu to chose input methods. > > So in order to type in Hindi, I've to use some input method enabled > window, such as "Run As" dialog box of KDE. > > So any alternatives or hacks exists, to directly type in Hindi in > Firefox and Thunderbird ? Hmmm... > use this, http://indicime.mozdev.org/ it gives a toolbar to select languages & keyb layouts for input. this may also interest you. http://padma.mozdev.org shows many non-unicode indic websites on firefox. Karunakar -- * * Work: http://www.indlinux.org * * Blog: http://cartoonsoft.com/blog * * ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Choosing input methods in Firefox and Thunderbird.
Hi, I want to know how to choose input methods in Firefox and Thunderbird. None of the text components are aware of input methods and didn't offer any context menu to chose input methods. So in order to type in Hindi, I've to use some input method enabled window, such as "Run As" dialog box of KDE. So any alternatives or hacks exists, to directly type in Hindi in Firefox and Thunderbird ? Hmmm... Thanx Ashish Shukla -- आशीष शुक्ला alias "Wah Java !!" http://wahjava.blogspot.com/ The only key to optimal life is precision. -- Ashish Shukla "Wah Java !!" http://wahjava.blogspot.com/2006/03/useful-thought.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
