Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-11 Thread Saurabh Nanda
>
> That means, well, M$ is licensing the gnu/linux OS; which M$ cannot do
> unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL
> applies to M$ patents!!!



The clause refering to a royalty-free, non-discriminatory, licence to use
any applicable patents is in GPLv3 and not GPLv2, IIRC.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Saurabh.
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Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 10-May-07, at 9:57 AM, vivek khurana wrote:

>> Quoting "Mahesh T. Pai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the
>> viral clause in GPL
>>
>> since when did GPL become viral?
>>
>
> Since its inception.

does RMS know?


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Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread vivek khurana

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Quoting "Mahesh T. Pai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the
> viral clause in GPL
> 
> since when did GPL become viral?
> 

Since its inception.

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Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread lawgon
Quoting "Mahesh T. Pai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL

since when did GPL become viral?

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Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Mahesh T. Pai wrote:
> That means, well, M$ is licensing the gnu/linux OS; which M$ cannot do
> unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL
> applies to M$ patents!!!

Microsoft cannot change the license of GPL software. I am sure there
lawyers understand this more than anything else.

What they are probably doing (and are misunderstood by the press as
usual) is that they are allowing Dell in distributing SuSe Linux on OEM
machines, which is perfectly fine as they are not modifying the distro
as such.

What is wrong in all this is that SuSe Linux will get an unfair priority
to be preinstalled on Dell machines as compared to other distros. (what
happens to the recent news of Ubuntu?). So just like the M$ tax that we
we have been jumping about, we have to jump about for SuSe Linux tax too. :)

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Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Lokesh Bhog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:

> How does this pact affect Linux?
>

Bad for Microsoft's FUD campaign against Gnu/linux.

According to groklaw, Dell purchased licenses for Suse enterprise
Linux from Microsoft, NOT from Novell.

That means, well, M$ is licensing the gnu/linux OS; which M$ cannot do
unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL
applies to M$ patents!!!

In other words, M$ has licensed its so-called patent arsenal to
gnu/linux. (I am not longer a lawyer; this is not legal advice, and I
have not read the M$-novell-Dell pact.)

In Kerala, we have a saying - you will fall into the same pit you dug
for others. I guess this is what happened to M$.

I suggest that somebody who have enough money to go get a server
running SLES from Dell; double quick, with all the sources.

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[ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-07 Thread Lokesh Bhog
How does this pact affect Linux?

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq:MSFT - news) said on Monday Dell 
Inc. (Nasdaq:DELL - news) had joined a business collaboration it had with 
Novell Inc. (Nasdaq:NOVL - news) to allow open-source 

The move makes Dell the first major systems provider to join the 
Microsoft-Novell collaboration, which consists of a broad set of business and 
technological agreements to make their products work together better to serve 
corporate customers using both Linux and Windows computer servers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070507/tc_nm/microsoft_novell_dell_dc


 

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