Re: [OffTopic][ilugd] How does Microsoft armtwist its own partners?

2004-01-14 Thread Abhi

Dear Puneet,

For starters, this isn't what he is really asking.
He said "microsoft's own partners/developers". Last I checked Linux and its
community didn't qualify.

Arjun, you could simply dig up on Sun/Microsoft's Java controversy. That
will be the best example of what you are asking for.
Btw Arjun, this topic doesn't has anything much to do with linux whatsoever.
Should have marked it offtopic. :)

Regards,
Abhi

> Microsoft plans to broaden its attack on Linux and related operating
systems
> this week by giving away a set of tools for migrating applications to
> Windows.
>
> The company is expected to release on Thursday a new version of Services
for
> Unix (SFU), a collection of tools that help Windows systems to work with
> installations based on the Unix operating system and its open-source
> derivative, Linux.
>
> Microsoft previously charged $99 per client or server to use SFU. But the
> new version, 3.5, will be free for any customer using a current Windows
> operating system.
>
> SFU packages an array of tools designed to accomplish two main tasks: that
> of allowing Unix and Windows systems to work together by using common file
> systems, directories and other resources; and that of helping information
> technology workers to migrate applications from Unix to Windows.
>
> regards,
>
> Puneet
>
> > > I need authentic reports/links on how Micro$oft twists arms of its own
> > partners/developers.
> > > Please help.
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > > Arjun Asthana


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Re: [ilugd] How does Microsoft armtwist its own partners?

2004-01-13 Thread Puneet
Microsoft plans to broaden its attack on Linux and related operating systems
this week by giving away a set of tools for migrating applications to
Windows.

The company is expected to release on Thursday a new version of Services for
Unix (SFU), a collection of tools that help Windows systems to work with
installations based on the Unix operating system and its open-source
derivative, Linux.

Microsoft previously charged $99 per client or server to use SFU. But the
new version, 3.5, will be free for any customer using a current Windows
operating system.

SFU packages an array of tools designed to accomplish two main tasks: that
of allowing Unix and Windows systems to work together by using common file
systems, directories and other resources; and that of helping information
technology workers to migrate applications from Unix to Windows.

regards,

Puneet

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From: "Puneet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ilugd] How does Microsoft armtwist its own partners?


> Microsoft Monday launched a new advertising campaign designed to extend
its
> "fact based" assault on the Linux operating system.
>
> The campaign consists of a two-page advertisement, which was featured in
six
> computer industry trade publications this week, that cites a 2002 IDC
study
> that found that Windows 2000 costs organizations less to operate for a
> variety of server tasks including networking, security, and file and print
> serving. "Reams have been written about Windows and Linux," the ad reads,
> "Let's skip to the bottom line."
>
> On the next page, the advertisement directs readers to a page on
Microsoft's
> Web site which contains a number of case studies and analyst reports that
> tout the benefits of the Windows operating system.
>
> The campaign is expected to run for six months, although Microsoft has not
> yet decided on an end date, according to a company spokeswoman
>
> Though Microsoft declined to say what it was spending on advertising, the
> simple print advertisement is markedly different from the high budget
Linux
> ads that rival company IBM launched in September of last year, which were
> created by New York ad agency Ogilvy & Mather and featured such
celebrities
> as boxer Muhammad Ali and director Penny Marshall.
>
> The difference is telling, said Bruce Perens, a Linux advocate and one of
> the founders of the Open Source Initiative. IBM's advertisement targets
high
> level executives, while Microsoft appears to be targeting more technical
> users, Perens said.
>
> "IBM understands that the people who really need the message are at the
> top," he said. "I think that the IBM ad says, 'Buy Linux and save your
> company.' The Microsoft ad says, 'Buy Microsoft and save your job.'"
>
> Microsoft characterized the advertisement's focus on IT professionals as
in
> line with the "fact based" campaign it has waged against Linux since
summer
> of last year. That's when the company's general manager of platform
> strategy, Martin Taylor, vowed to reduce the level of emotion in
Microsoft's
> criticism of Linux. "There were some emotional statements made before;
we're
> now on a direction to talk about the facts," he said at the time.
>
> Monday's advertisement continues in that vein, a Microsoft spokeswoman
said.
> "We were looking at targeting the IT pros. IBM's was a broader Linux
> movement campaign," she said. "It's the IT professionals who want the
> facts."
>
> According to Perens, the advertisement simply shows that Microsoft is
afraid
> of Linux, and give the open source operating system more credibility in
the
> enterprise. "I think that Microsoft should continue this campaign in other
> publications," he said. "In fact, they should buy some TV ads; maybe a
> Superbowl ad."
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/facts/analyses.asp
>
> njoy!
> Puneet
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arjun Asthana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:26 PM
> Subject: [ilugd] How does Microsoft armtwist its own partners?
>
>
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > I need authentic reports/links on how Micro$oft twists arms of its own
> partners/developers.
> > Please help.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Arjun Asthana
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 2004-01-11 20:52:40
> >
> >
> > An age is called Dark, not because the light fails to shine,
> > but because people refuse to see it.   James A Michner
> >
> >
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Re: [ilugd] How does Microsoft armtwist its own partners?

2004-01-12 Thread Puneet
Microsoft Monday launched a new advertising campaign designed to extend its
"fact based" assault on the Linux operating system.

The campaign consists of a two-page advertisement, which was featured in six
computer industry trade publications this week, that cites a 2002 IDC study
that found that Windows 2000 costs organizations less to operate for a
variety of server tasks including networking, security, and file and print
serving. "Reams have been written about Windows and Linux," the ad reads,
"Let's skip to the bottom line."

On the next page, the advertisement directs readers to a page on Microsoft's
Web site which contains a number of case studies and analyst reports that
tout the benefits of the Windows operating system.

The campaign is expected to run for six months, although Microsoft has not
yet decided on an end date, according to a company spokeswoman

Though Microsoft declined to say what it was spending on advertising, the
simple print advertisement is markedly different from the high budget Linux
ads that rival company IBM launched in September of last year, which were
created by New York ad agency Ogilvy & Mather and featured such celebrities
as boxer Muhammad Ali and director Penny Marshall.

The difference is telling, said Bruce Perens, a Linux advocate and one of
the founders of the Open Source Initiative. IBM's advertisement targets high
level executives, while Microsoft appears to be targeting more technical
users, Perens said.

"IBM understands that the people who really need the message are at the
top," he said. "I think that the IBM ad says, 'Buy Linux and save your
company.' The Microsoft ad says, 'Buy Microsoft and save your job.'"

Microsoft characterized the advertisement's focus on IT professionals as in
line with the "fact based" campaign it has waged against Linux since summer
of last year. That's when the company's general manager of platform
strategy, Martin Taylor, vowed to reduce the level of emotion in Microsoft's
criticism of Linux. "There were some emotional statements made before; we're
now on a direction to talk about the facts," he said at the time.

Monday's advertisement continues in that vein, a Microsoft spokeswoman said.
"We were looking at targeting the IT pros. IBM's was a broader Linux
movement campaign," she said. "It's the IT professionals who want the
facts."

According to Perens, the advertisement simply shows that Microsoft is afraid
of Linux, and give the open source operating system more credibility in the
enterprise. "I think that Microsoft should continue this campaign in other
publications," he said. "In fact, they should buy some TV ads; maybe a
Superbowl ad."

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/facts/analyses.asp

njoy!
Puneet


- Original Message -
From: "Arjun Asthana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:26 PM
Subject: [ilugd] How does Microsoft armtwist its own partners?


> Dear Friends,
>
> I need authentic reports/links on how Micro$oft twists arms of its own
partners/developers.
> Please help.
>
> Regards.
>
> Arjun Asthana
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 2004-01-11 20:52:40
>
>
> An age is called Dark, not because the light fails to shine,
> but because people refuse to see it.   James A Michner
>
>
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[ilugd] How does Microsoft armtwist its own partners?

2004-01-11 Thread Arjun Asthana
Dear Friends,

I need authentic reports/links on how Micro$oft twists arms of its own 
partners/developers. 
Please help.

Regards. 

Arjun Asthana
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-01-11 20:52:40


An age is called Dark, not because the light fails to shine, 
but because people refuse to see it.   James A Michner



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