Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

2010-08-03 Thread Anand Shankar
Guys, see the more relevant discussion here including the BoM:

http://www.olpcnews.com/sales_talk/competition/the_real_35_tablet_from_india.html

anand

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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

2010-08-01 Thread Amit Karpe
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vivek Varghese Cherian 
vivekcher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 On July 22 a $35 (or 1500 INR) hand-held Linux computing device was
 unveiled
 by Shri Kapil Sibal, the Union Minister for Human Resource Development of
 India. The goal of the project is to lower the price to around $20 in time
 and eventually reaching the amazing price of $10.

 In a tablet form-factor and using an unspecified variant of Linux (that
 some
 have said might be Android), the cost should remain low while offering a
 wide range of functionality. The Sakshat descendant is said to be capable
 of
 supporting video conferencing, viewing a wide selection of video and image
 files, word processing, de/compressing files, printing with CUPS, full
 Internet browsing with Javascript and Flash, wireless communications, and
 remote device management.

 The complete article is available on linux journal at the URL:
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/indias-35-tablet-everything-killer




I am sure that, not a single Chip vendor can come with this cost.
Most of ARM vendor including TI can't come close to 70$ for Processor and
Motherboard. [ SOC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System-on-a-chip }
Intel Atom never be the choice. Have look at power consumption which is 2
watt.
2 Watts of power consumption while solar charging and conventional
battery.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakshat#cite_note-Guardian-7[
Ref:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakshat ]
This is purely political drama.

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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

2010-07-30 Thread Anupam Jain
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
 naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:

  DDR3 will be a cost effective option.

 To the best of my knowledge DDR3 costs a bit more in the Mumbai
 channels - right now at least.

  Btw here is Open Letter by Nicholas Negroponte -
  http://blog.laptop.org/2010/07/29/welcoming-indias-tablet/
  He is also taking this joke seriously. At the end the article he invited
 $35
  team at MIT  OLPC.

 Cool :)  I hope the team accepts the invitation.  I am sure they can
 learn from each other, especially in the areas of production,
 distribution and most importantly support.

 Seriously, it will a great achievement if it can be mass produced and
 deployed.  My only problem with it is the touted price point - trying
 to fool the public.


Subsidy by the Indian Govt.?

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[ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

2010-07-29 Thread Vivek Varghese Cherian
Hi,

On July 22 a $35 (or 1500 INR) hand-held Linux computing device was unveiled
by Shri Kapil Sibal, the Union Minister for Human Resource Development of
India. The goal of the project is to lower the price to around $20 in time
and eventually reaching the amazing price of $10.

In a tablet form-factor and using an unspecified variant of Linux (that some
have said might be Android), the cost should remain low while offering a
wide range of functionality. The Sakshat descendant is said to be capable of
supporting video conferencing, viewing a wide selection of video and image
files, word processing, de/compressing files, printing with CUPS, full
Internet browsing with Javascript and Flash, wireless communications, and
remote device management.

The complete article is available on linux journal at the URL:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/indias-35-tablet-everything-killer

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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

2010-07-29 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vivek Varghese Cherian 
vivekcher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 On July 22 a $35 (or 1500 INR) hand-held Linux computing device was
 unveiled
 by Shri Kapil Sibal, the Union Minister for Human Resource Development of
 India. The goal of the project is to lower the price to around $20 in time
 and eventually reaching the amazing price of $10.


We have been hearing all kind of such devices right from those days of
Simputer.
Nothing has actually come up till date. (And not at that kind of pricing.)
Even if you take a bill of material and add its pricing, i twill not come
that low.

Lets hope and wait for the device to roll out in the market at that pricing.

-Sudhanwa




 In a tablet form-factor and using an unspecified variant of Linux (that
 some
 have said might be Android), the cost should remain low while offering a
 wide range of functionality. The Sakshat descendant is said to be capable
 of
 supporting video conferencing, viewing a wide selection of video and image
 files, word processing, de/compressing files, printing with CUPS, full
 Internet browsing with Javascript and Flash, wireless communications, and
 remote device management.

 The complete article is available on linux journal at the URL:
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/indias-35-tablet-everything-killer

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 Senior Systems Administrator
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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

2010-07-29 Thread Smruti
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vivek Varghese Cherian 
vivekcher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 On July 22 a $35 (or 1500 INR) hand-held Linux computing device was
 unveiled
 by Shri Kapil Sibal, the Union Minister for Human Resource Development of
 India.


Found an article in CW. Seems like the International Media isn't so
enthusiastic about it. Now, I can't decide whether it's true journalism or
just some guy who can't stand a device from third world taking over their
markets.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9179591/Why_the_35_tablet_will_never_exist?source=rss_hardware

May be you guys can give a better judgement.

Regards,
Smruti
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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

2010-07-29 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Smruti smrutiman...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vivek Varghese Cherian 
 vivekcher...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
  On July 22 a $35 (or 1500 INR) hand-held Linux computing device was
  unveiled
  by Shri Kapil Sibal, the Union Minister for Human Resource Development of
  India.


Have anybody seen this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakshat ?
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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

2010-07-29 Thread Nishant Prakash Kashyap
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Narendra Sisodiya 
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Smruti smrutiman...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vivek Varghese Cherian 
  vivekcher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   On July 22 a $35 (or 1500 INR) hand-held Linux computing device was
   unveiled
   by Shri Kapil Sibal, the Union Minister for Human Resource Development
 of
   India.
 
 
 Have anybody seen this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakshat ?
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This is all waste of time. you dont even get outdated crt monitor for
Rs.1500. ullu bana rahe hai.

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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

2010-07-29 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap 
npkash...@gmail.com wrote:



 This is all waste of time. you dont even get outdated crt monitor for
 Rs.1500. ullu bana rahe hai.


Yes, We know this. vese bhi sarkar hum sabko ullu hi to bana rahi hai last
40 years se.
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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

2010-07-29 Thread Arun Khan
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap 
 npkash...@gmail.com wrote:



 This is all waste of time. you dont even get outdated crt monitor for
 Rs.1500. ullu bana rahe hai.


 Yes, We know this. vese bhi sarkar hum sabko ullu hi to bana rahi hai last
 40 years se.

Aur hum sab ullu bane ko tayaar hein.

Seriously, let us do costing of bill of material -  I am stating
current street price @ Lam Rd., Mumbai

DDR2 667 2GB RAM DIMM costs around INR 1900  around USD 41
Motherboard with integrated Atom CPU INR 3000 around USD 65

The above are for Nettop and the cost already exceeds USD 100 plus the cost of
7 LCD Screen
4GB Compact Flash
Chassis
Labor etc.

OK, at large volumes the cost will come down but no way to USD 35.

It is very encouraging to read about it being developed indigenously
but the projected pricing is a gimmick/publicity stunt IMO.

-- Arun Khan

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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

2010-07-29 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
 naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap 
  npkash...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  This is all waste of time. you dont even get outdated crt monitor for
  Rs.1500. ullu bana rahe hai.
 
 
  Yes, We know this. vese bhi sarkar hum sabko ullu hi to bana rahi hai
 last
  40 years se.

 Aur hum sab ullu bane ko tayaar hein.

 Seriously, let us do costing of bill of material -  I am stating
 current street price @ Lam Rd., Mumbai

 DDR2 667 2GB RAM DIMM costs around INR 1900  around USD 41
 Motherboard with integrated Atom CPU INR 3000 around USD 65


DDR3 will be a cost effective option.

Btw here is Open Letter by Nicholas Negroponte -
http://blog.laptop.org/2010/07/29/welcoming-indias-tablet/
He is also taking this joke seriously. At the end the article he invited $35
team at MIT  OLPC.
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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

2010-07-29 Thread Arun Khan
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:

 DDR3 will be a cost effective option.

To the best of my knowledge DDR3 costs a bit more in the Mumbai
channels - right now at least.

 Btw here is Open Letter by Nicholas Negroponte -
 http://blog.laptop.org/2010/07/29/welcoming-indias-tablet/
 He is also taking this joke seriously. At the end the article he invited $35
 team at MIT  OLPC.

Cool :)  I hope the team accepts the invitation.  I am sure they can
learn from each other, especially in the areas of production,
distribution and most importantly support.

Seriously, it will a great achievement if it can be mass produced and
deployed.  My only problem with it is the touted price point - trying
to fool the public.

-- Arun Khan

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