Re: [ilugd] KDE rules

2006-01-02 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On Sunday 01 January 2006 20:20, Raj Mathur wrote:
[snip]
 I'd switch to amarok from XMMS, except I can't find a balance control
 anywhere.  Since my speakers are at not both at the same distance from
 where I sit, that's absolutely essential for me.  And no thanks, I
 don't need the volume control in my mixer :)

How often do you move your speakers that you need to keep changing the
balance? :)

I use the mixer applet in my panel, which I find much more convenient
than bringing up the player window (I use JuK) to modify vol/mix -
I just move my mouse to the applet and scroll the wheel up/down. The
global keyboard shortcuts are also a great help.

-Taj.




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Re: [ilugd] KDE rules

2006-01-02 Thread Raj Mathur
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 Taj == Sirtaj Singh Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Taj On Sunday 01 January 2006 20:20, Raj Mathur wrote: [snip]
 I'd switch to amarok from XMMS, except I can't find a balance
 control anywhere.  Since my speakers are at not both at the
 same distance from where I sit, that's absolutely essential for
 me.  And no thanks, I don't need the volume control in my mixer
 :)

Taj How often do you move your speakers that you need to keep
Taj changing the balance? :)

Actually it's more complex than that.

Taj I use the mixer applet in my panel, which I find much more
Taj convenient than bringing up the player window (I use JuK) to
Taj modify vol/mix - I just move my mouse to the applet and
Taj scroll the wheel up/down. The global keyboard shortcuts are
Taj also a great help.

I decided to just sneer at those who keep telling me how I should
listen to music rather than either (a) solving the problem or (b)
telling me it can't be done.  Damn all user-interface-design gurus
who, instead of adding a feature the user wants, tell the user how
s/he should ideally be doing what s/he wants to do!

Here's your share: *sneer* ;)

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Re: [ilugd] KDE rules

2006-01-02 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang

[snip]
 I decided to just sneer at those who keep telling me how I should
 listen to music rather than either (a) solving the problem or (b)
 telling me it can't be done.  Damn all user-interface-design gurus
 who, instead of adding a feature the user wants, tell the user how
 s/he should ideally be doing what s/he wants to do!

 Here's your share: *sneer* ;)

It's like sneering at people who tell you that cigarettes and coca cola
will kill you. Sooner or later you just have to face up to the fact that
your lifestyle is at best inefficient, and at worst, just plain stark
raving WRONG.

-Taj.



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Re: [ilugd] KDE rules

2006-01-02 Thread Tanveer Singh
On 1/2/06, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Taj == Sirtaj Singh Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Taj [snip]
  I decided to just sneer at those who keep telling me how I
  should listen to music rather than either (a) solving the
  problem or (b) telling me it can't be done.  Damn all
  user-interface-design gurus who, instead of adding a feature
  the user wants, tell the user how s/he should ideally be doing
  what s/he wants to do!
 
  Here's your share: *sneer* ;)

 Taj It's like sneering at people who tell you that cigarettes and
 Taj coca cola will kill you. Sooner or later you just have to
 Taj face up to the fact that your lifestyle is at best
 Taj inefficient, and at worst, just plain stark raving WRONG.

 That was the worst analogy it has been my misfortune to stumble across
 in the Happy New Year.

You very well deserved that :D.
And yes it can't be done. I suggest you tell the amarok folks, put in a
feature request(Most kde fellows are open to feature requests)
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Re: [ilugd] KDE rules

2006-01-02 Thread Raj Mathur
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Abhay On Monday 02 January 2006 20:32, Raj Mathur wrote:
 I decided to just sneer at those who keep telling me how I
 should listen to music rather than either (a) solving the
 problem or (b) telling me it can't be done.  Damn all
 user-interface-design gurus who, instead of adding a feature
 the user wants, tell the user how s/he should ideally be doing
 what s/he wants to do!

Abhay If you want this feature so much then why don't you help
Abhay yourself and file a request at bugs.kde.org? In any case if
Abhay just the balance feature is so important for you in a
Abhay media player rather than all the additional features you
Abhay get with amaroK then imho you should stick with xmms. You
Abhay won't be missing any thing cos after all you don't desire
Abhay anything extra anyways :)

Man, I didn't know that a simple ``I don't use Foo because it lacks
feature Bar'' would cause so much controversy!

Let's drop this conversation now, shall we, and find something better
to flame about?

BTW, Emacs rocks, [g]vi[m] sucks!

g,dr

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Re: [ilugd] KDE rules

2006-01-02 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On Monday 02 January 2006 22:11, Raj Mathur wrote:
[snip]
 That was the worst analogy it has been my misfortune to stumble across
 in the Happy New Year.

I'm a bit disappointed with it; I was so upset about being called a
usability guy that I rushed it a little. Give me a couple of months and
I'm sure I can come up with a worse one. Either way, it's nice of you
to take time off from rearranging your speakers to give credit where
it's due.

-Taj.



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Re: [ilugd] KDE rules

2006-01-02 Thread Raj Shekhar
in infinite wisdom Raj Mathur spoke thus  On 01/03/2006 12:08 AM:
 Let's drop this conversation now, shall we, and find something better
 to flame about?
 
 BTW, Emacs rocks, [g]vi[m] sucks!

http://mirror7.escomposlinux.org.nyud.net:8090/comic/ecol-08-e.png


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[ilugd] KDE rules

2006-01-01 Thread nipra
Hi,
 No flame war intended(though I'll not mind one ;-). Just found a good
article on KDE and why it rules.

http://www.terra.es/personal/diegocg/kde/

Regards
Nikhil Prabhakar

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Re: [ilugd] KDE rules

2006-01-01 Thread Raj Mathur
 Raj == Raj Shekhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Raj in infinite wisdom nipra spoke thus On 01/01/2006 04:44 PM:
 Hi, No flame war intended(though I'll not mind one ;-). Just
 found a good article on KDE and why it rules.
 
 http://www.terra.es/personal/diegocg/kde/

Raj I agree with his assessment of amaroK. It simply rocks.  I
Raj tried it out today and I am hooked to it.  Much better than
Raj rhythmbox

I'd switch to amarok from XMMS, except I can't find a balance control
anywhere.  Since my speakers are at not both at the same distance from
where I sit, that's absolutely essential for me.  And no thanks, I
don't need the volume control in my mixer :)

LIRC integration would be nice too, but not essential at the moment.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] KDE rules

2006-01-01 Thread Tanveer Singh
On 1/1/06, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Raj == Raj Shekhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Raj in infinite wisdom nipra spoke thus On 01/01/2006 04:44 PM:
  Hi, No flame war intended(though I'll not mind one ;-). Just
  found a good article on KDE and why it rules.
 
  http://www.terra.es/personal/diegocg/kde/

 Raj I agree with his assessment of amaroK. It simply rocks.  I
 Raj tried it out today and I am hooked to it.  Much better than
 Raj rhythmbox

 I'd switch to amarok from XMMS, except I can't find a balance control
 anywhere.  Since my speakers are at not both at the same distance from
 where I sit, that's absolutely essential for me.  And no thanks, I
 don't need the volume control in my mixer :)

 dont be such an old monk ;), use kmixer for your balance needs :D
And if you look at the K3B intergration with amarok(CD burning etc.,) along
with other features, this is a small disadvantage!
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Re: [ilugd] KDE rules

2006-01-01 Thread Raj Mathur
 Abhay == Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Abhay On 1/1/06, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Raj == Raj Shekhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I'd switch to amarok from XMMS, except I can't find a balance
 control anywhere.  Since my speakers are at not both at the
 same distance from where I sit, that's absolutely essential for
 me.  And no thanks, I don't need the volume control in my mixer
 :)
 
 LIRC integration would be nice too, but not essential at the
 moment.

Abhay Actually amaroK is more of a KDE application so it depends
Abhay a bit on KDE for its features. For example: kmix takes care
Abhay of balance while KDE in itself takes care of lirc. Also for

Hmm, by that logic Amarok shouldn't have a volume control either,
since I believe kmix has that too.

Abhay a lirc tutorial you can look here
Abhay 
http://amarok.kde.org/component/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,/func,view/catid,9/id,136/#136

Thanks, that should be useful when I switch to Amarok (after it gets a
balance slider, of course :)

Regards,

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