Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-20 Thread linuxlingam
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 09:23, vivek khurana wrote:
 --- linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  who said flash mob computing is fizzling itself out?
[snip]

  Thank god you guyz disscussed it after i left. BTW
 what was stopping you from discussing it while me and
 shejar were around??
 
  Well here is the outcome of our sunday morning
 adventure.
[snip]

great. so this weekend more stuff is to happen on RD of this stuff. you
guys can read vivek's summary, and volunteer how to help thru the week,
too guys. so when we meet this weekend, we have something in our hands.

:-)
LL

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Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-20 Thread linuxlingam
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 09:28, vivek khurana wrote:
 --- linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  grrr someone else pick it up. [snip]

anyone else could volunteer on this please? am busy with the apple
sarovar thingie, and with a few other projects, like tutorials for free
graphic design software, etc

:-)
LL

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Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-20 Thread vivek khurana

--- linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 great. so this weekend more stuff is to happen on
 RD of this stuff. you
 guys can read vivek's summary, and volunteer how to
 help thru the week,
 too guys. so when we meet this weekend, we have
 something in our hands.


 Hmm... we might have something in hand next week.
This weekend (on sunday) me and mary are going to do
some RD and will continue the work from where we left
last sunday. As for thru the week, we are just
collecting the packages. Anyone who is interested in
joing the RD can come to Sarai this sunday any time
after 11 am.

Regards
VK


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[ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-19 Thread linuxlingam
who said flash mob computing is fizzling itself out?

here's the latest status:

1) kishore makes a pragmatic suggestion:
choose a location where we have existing dozens of pc with
infrastructure like power, backup, ac, network, etc.
we had volunteers here devoting their sites.

kishore recommends use one of these sites to showcase a flash mob
supercomputer. even if it is of 50 nodes, or 100 nodes, it is a
proof-of-concept. perhaps in the second or third attempt we could break
a national or other record. perhaps in the hundredth.

kishore knows. once upon a time, he was a car rally freak.
participating and finishing is important.


2) raj stumps everyone with his 21 unanswerable questions. solution:
ignore his questions and get on with the flashmob computing, as per
kishore's suggestion. a scaled-down, initial flash-mob recce is better
than no flashmob computer. simple.

some tests done by flashmobbers showed problems in the nodes actually
'subtracting' rather than 'adding' computing power. unfortunately, vivek
khurana, on whose shoulders the history of this moment is to rest, was
missing during this discussion. so we could have discussed alternatives.
i believe we could attempt this with another live distro, or contact the
flashmob supercomputing list to find out what is happening.

please, let's have a list of volunteered sites for the flashmob event.
let's do a sample test of this using bootable cds on-location. even a
two-node cluster would do.
vivek, you can best coordinate this, as you are completely clued in to
the intiative, and tell us how do we proceed.

:-)
LL
(flasher in the mob)

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Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-19 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
linuxlingam wrote:
some tests done by flashmobbers showed problems in the nodes actually
'subtracting' rather than 'adding' computing power. unfortunately, vivek
khurana, on whose shoulders the history of this moment is to rest, was
missing during this discussion. so we could have discussed alternatives.
i believe we could attempt this with another live distro, or contact the
flashmob supercomputing list to find out what is happening.
please, let's have a list of volunteered sites for the flashmob event.
let's do a sample test of this using bootable cds on-location. even a
two-node cluster would do.
vivek, you can best coordinate this, as you are completely clued in to
the intiative, and tell us how do we proceed.
I have a suggestion. Why dont you folks go to 
http://lap.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/WebHome and start off a 
page on the flahmob supercomputing status, resources found out till now, 
recent tries at the stuff - the problems found, etc.? We can have a link 
to this wiki site from the main ILUGD home page.

LL, why dont you start out the top level page for the project, and then 
just make points for the various facets of it - like TODO, volunteers, 
resources needed, knowledge base, etc. People here can keep adding to it 
as needed.

The LAP twiki site is lying unused. WE can use it for maintaining status 
for other projects of ILUGD (even the T-Shirt project).

- Sandip

P.S.  I plan to start a page on twiki myself asking for donations to 
sponsor me to for my long-standing demand about my trip to Phuket for 
T-shirts on ILUGD funds, which I have been unfairly denied all these 
years. ;)

--
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Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-19 Thread linuxlingam
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 02:27, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

 
 I have a suggestion. Why dont you folks go to 
 http://lap.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/WebHome and start off a 
 page on the flahmob supercomputing status,]
 
 LL, why dont you start out the top level page for the project, 

er.. you mean vivek. he coordinates this.
:-)
LL

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Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-19 Thread Raj Mathur
 LL == linuxlingam  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

LL On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 02:27, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 I have a suggestion. Why dont you folks go to
 http://lap.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/WebHome and start
 off a page on the flahmob supercomputing status,]
 
 LL, why dont you start out the top level page for the project,

LL er.. you mean vivek. he coordinates this.  :-) LL

Does he?  Did he say so?

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Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-19 Thread vivek khurana

--- linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 who said flash mob computing is fizzling itself out?
 
 here's the latest status:
 
 1) kishore makes a pragmatic suggestion:
 choose a location where we have existing dozens of
 pc with
 infrastructure like power, backup, ac, network, etc.
 we had volunteers here devoting their sites.
 
 kishore recommends use one of these sites to
 showcase a flash mob
 supercomputer. even if it is of 50 nodes, or 100
 nodes, it is a
 proof-of-concept. perhaps in the second or third
 attempt we could break
 a national or other record. perhaps in the
 hundredth.

 Thank god you guyz disscussed it after i left. BTW
what was stopping you from discussing it while me and
shejar were around??

 Well here is the outcome of our sunday morning
adventure.

 Flashmob iso bombed (as i expected). It appears to be
flaky and not performing properly with Intel hardware.
The results we got were vaying. We could achieve 1.9
Gflops on single machine, but when we extended cluster
to 3 nodes the Gflops fell to 0.5 Gflops.
 Flashmob iso was ruled out (unanimosly) due to flaky
behaviour and non availability of source code.

 Following this new action plan was drawn. We decided
to go for our iso. After some RD we got on with the
job. I was carrying an educational cluster ISO which
worked but there were no tools prtesent in the ISO to
benchmark the performance. (we only tested network
latency and stability and results were satisfactory).

 Manpreet started working on making a cluster using
PCQLinux 2004(pre installed) as Anindya promised to
make an live CD out of it.
 We were able to create a master node on PCQLinux, the
problem started while creating the slave. One of the
packages (we had a collection of packages to make
cluster on RH6.2) required postgresql version 5.x and
we had version 7.3 installed.

 By this time it was already 1:30 p.m and we had 4
crashed brains. So, we decided to continue this next
weekend. Hopefully we will have a an ISO to do the the
testing work next week.

 :-)
 LL
 (flasher in the mob)

 WHAT R U FLASHING???


Regards
VK

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Re: [ilugd] flash mob computing !

2004-04-19 Thread vivek khurana

--- linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 02:27, Sandip Bhattacharya
 wrote:
 
  
  I have a suggestion. Why dont you folks go to 
 
 http://lap.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/WebHome
 and start off a 
  page on the flahmob supercomputing status,]
  
  LL, why dont you start out the top level page for
 the project, 
 
 er.. you mean vivek. he coordinates this.
 :-)
 grrr someone else pick it up. I am taking care of
the iso. Also, i am not the sole volunteer. There are
limits to the amount of work a human can do.

Regards
VK


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