Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
AFAIK Motorola has following Linux mobile phones. 1. A1200 (ming) 2. MotoRokr E6 3. RAZR v8 (upcoming) Cheers! Puneet On 12 Aug 2007 04:15:39 -, Raseel Bhagat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 Anupam Jain wrote : On 8/9/07, vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which features might those be? I have been using this phone for several months now and I find it much better than other similarly priced phones in terms of features and looks.. Sure it's no Nokia N95 but IMHO it's great value for money.. I completely agree. In fact, this phone has a OCR (optical Character Recognition) to directly read Business cards. How many non-linux phones have these (in this price range ) ? Also for all you geeeks out there, the Mkezx root filesystem can be flashed, you can ssh or telnet into the phone and even run programs and a shell. I'd say the only real negative is the low speaker volume making headphones mandatory for music.. Agreed. I also wish there had been a Wifi-chip to access Wireless internet. It would have been an ideal phone for me then. Thanks, Raseel. http://screwgoth.blogspex.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
On 8/8/07, PJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the Motorola A1200? (http://www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-a1200-en.shtml) It's not too great Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are you saying.. At 12k it's the best Linux based phone readily available in India! Yeah, but is it better than the best non-linux phones in that price range? Probably not for non-linux types. But maybe excellent for people like us. The review link above is actually is from an experienced reviewer who is looking at it from a general user perspective, and he rates it as average. How good you rate it depends on what your needs are, and the components that go into your definition of best Anupam: At 12k it's the best Linux based phone readily available in India! Yup. The A1200 is probably cheapest at Subiksha. In a couple of years they'll be giving them away free in cornflakes boxes ;-) PJ: , and not too open Anupam: That unfortunately is true. I wonder if it violates the GPL. Very very unlikely. Companies like Motorola have a default policy of routing things past a competent legal department (ip rule add from phonecoders table legal-department ;-)) before allowing code out the door. I caught a glimpse of Raj's A1200 at the last lug meet. If I understood him correctly, then some of the driver modules are closed binaries. Which is OK under GPL, but sucky for if you want to play around with the software innards. Overall, I reckon that for now it's probably the best of the bunch for people keen on linux. PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
--- Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (http://www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-a1200-en.shtml) It's not too great yup ocmpared to non-linux phone, this phone lacks several features including applications. What are you saying.. At 12k it's the best Linux based phone readily available in India! , and not too open That unfortunately is true. I wonder if it violates the GPL. have a look at this http://sourceforge.net/projects/e680/ the binary modules are closed probably closed. regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
On 8/9/07, vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (http://www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-a1200-en.shtml) It's not too great yup ocmpared to non-linux phone, this phone lacks several features including applications. Which features might those be? I have been using this phone for several months now and I find it much better than other similarly priced phones in terms of features and looks.. Sure it's no Nokia N95 but IMHO it's great value for money.. I'd say the only real negative is the low speaker volume making headphones mandatory for music.. -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
Kevin Muller wrote: I am about to buy a blackberry for my hutch postpaid connection. I was just wondering if there are free alternatives to blackberry.. i was told I've been using a Nokia E61 with a remote IMAP server for email when on the road, and it does work fine. Since its IMAP you get an identical folder view from pretty much anywhere. Alternatively, if you still want to go down the blackberry route, the E61 has a module you can download off the nokia website that lets you setup pushemail on the phone. - KB -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
Kevin Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: die !), and additionnaly that model has no camera (I always dreamt about being able to take photos with my mobile !), and no keyboard (i mean, there is only a virtual keyboard). Any other suggestions ? Maybe the Motorola A1200? (http://www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-a1200-en.shtml) It's not too great, and not too open (though much of the OS is GPLed). Depends what your needs are. PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08-08-07 10:35 AM, Kevin Muller wrote: I am about to buy a blackberry for my hutch postpaid connection. I was just wondering if there are free alternatives to blackberry.. i was told that some companies have made similar phones working with linux. Any references, links ? And will it work with Hutch (or even Airtel.. i would'nt hesitate to switch if necessary !) ? I have been trying to avoid BBerry phones for a long time now. I used the Treo 650 with chattermail for a long long time. You can use any phone that supports IMAP-IDLE, that is the best alternative in my opinion and mostly FREE. Its pretty much an instant push email solution. Your email provider may already support the IDLE command, most dont even know if they do or not. I switched to a Nokia e90 communicator recently and unfortunately while it supports IMAP-IDLE, its not too good doing it. So i had to bite the bullet and get the blackberry connect software on my e90. Which i think is still better than getting a blackberry phone. cheers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGuYkzbR7mO5apBYARAnnDAJ9lqu9uEpL7mLlWNZO6OTXtOJbgFwCZASps k+/tOynReyfqMKwETXyExU8= =5tnr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
hi Ankur, Ankur Rohatgi wrote: I switched to a Nokia e90 communicator recently and unfortunately while it supports IMAP-IDLE, its not too good doing it. So i had to bite the bullet and get the blackberry connect software on my e90. Which i think is still better than getting a blackberry phone. isnt network access cost these days low enough to not need to really worry about IMAP-IDLE really ? - KB -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08-08-07 3:00 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: isnt network access cost these days low enough to not need to really worry about IMAP-IDLE really ? Hi Karan, I agree, especially with Airtel offering ONLY 1 unmetered GPRS plan. The e90 however had problems holding on the connection and very often it would lose the connection to the remote inbox. Also there is a major limitation (which is also in the BBconnect), the sent email remains in the phone, there is no way to send it to your sent IMAP folder. Something that was done very well in chattermail. cheers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGuZOHbR7mO5apBYARAmQwAKCzBAmWMcNCG7KK53eH+ZafmesmPQCeKxT6 tIFFBZhniGCaOhlN9UlB+zA= =+BEy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
On 08-Aug-07, at 11:12 AM, Kevin Muller wrote: Thanks. I already knew that one, but the thing is that the product is not yet commercialised (I need something urgently, my mobile is about to die !), and additionnaly that model has no camera (I always dreamt about being able to take photos with my mobile !), and no keyboard (i mean, there is only a virtual keyboard). there si a motorola that runs linux - from 12k upwards, check out raj mathur's post in the archives about a month back -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
On 8/8/07, PJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: die !), and additionnaly that model has no camera (I always dreamt about being able to take photos with my mobile !), and no keyboard (i mean, there is only a virtual keyboard). Any other suggestions ? Maybe the Motorola A1200? (http://www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-a1200-en.shtml) It's not too great What are you saying.. At 12k it's the best Linux based phone readily available in India! , and not too open That unfortunately is true. I wonder if it violates the GPL. -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
Dear folks, I am about to buy a blackberry for my hutch postpaid connection. I was just wondering if there are free alternatives to blackberry.. i was told that some companies have made similar phones working with linux. Any references, links ? And will it work with Hutch (or even Airtel.. i would'nt hesitate to switch if necessary !) ? Thanks. Kevin ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
Hello, that some companies have made similar phones working with linux. Any references, links ? And will it work with Hutch (or even Airtel.. i Check out this before buying :) http://www.openmoko.org/ http://www.openmoko.com/ -- Regards Rakesh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
Hi Rakesh, Thanks. I already knew that one, but the thing is that the product is not yet commercialised (I need something urgently, my mobile is about to die !), and additionnaly that model has no camera (I always dreamt about being able to take photos with my mobile !), and no keyboard (i mean, there is only a virtual keyboard). Any other suggestions ? Rakesh Pandit wrote: Hello, that some companies have made similar phones working with linux. Any references, links ? And will it work with Hutch (or even Airtel.. i Check out this before buying :) http://www.openmoko.org/ http://www.openmoko.com/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
