Re: [ilugd] ilugd Digest, Vol 47, Issue 5

2007-02-10 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On 2/5/07, Mahesh T. Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Kamal Dave"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > In my opinion the decision to opt out has its god grounds but by not
> > participating in the LA2007, there was an opportunity afforded to the MS to
> > hack the cause of conference.  It must always be understood the control over
> > the conference schedules also was given to the MS for stating their point
> > and in the ultimate the lug remained the looser.
>
> A serious, alert [would be] customer will notice the absence of FLOSS
> activists in an event which is supposed to be about FLOSS.
>
A FLOSS activist doesn`t need LA type events , he can hang around irc
and sustain himself, But what about newbies , How we are going to
redirect real needy persons to the right place (LUGS).

  Just for records , i was introduced to ILUGD at first Linux Asia 2004


> If s/he is does not notice, s/he is not a worthy customer.
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Re: [ilugd] ilugd Digest, Vol 47, Issue 5

2007-02-06 Thread vivek khurana
> A serious, alert [would be] customer will notice the
> absence of FLOSS
> activists in an event which is supposed to be about
> FLOSS.
> 
> If s/he is does not notice, s/he is not a worthy
> customer.

 Again a hypothetical situation. How many customers
are seriously alert? If this had been the case do you
think M$ EULA would have survived 25 years in
industry? This means almost 90% of end users of IT
related products are not worthy.
 I believe we as lug also have to act as consumer
rights protection activist to a certain extent and we
do act so. Whenever we are making peple aware of
benifits of open source products, we do make users
aware of the pit falls of EULA and other hidden costs
associated with properitary software. (I am not using
word customer here as i find it to be narrow in
context)

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Re: [ilugd] ilugd Digest, Vol 47, Issue 5

2007-02-05 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 21:48 +0530, Mahesh T. Pai wrote:
> "Kamal Dave"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > In my opinion the decision to opt out has its god grounds but by not 
> > participating in the LA2007, there was an opportunity afforded to the MS to 
> > hack the cause of conference.  It must always be understood the control 
> > over 
> > the conference schedules also was given to the MS for stating their point 
> > and in the ultimate the lug remained the looser.

> A serious, alert [would be] customer will notice the absence of FLOSS
> activists in an event which is supposed to be about FLOSS.

I will second Mahesh's opinion, in opposition to what several people
have implied: That it is somehow the LUG's job to spread Linux (I
explicitly use Linux, rather than free software as a whole). Personally,
I couldn't care less if the rest of the world uses proprietary software,
as long as there is a viable free software community. Maybe it is time
for the free software companies that sponsor Linux-Asia to wake up and
smell the roses, but as far as I am concerned LA2007 was no skin off my
nose. At least at present, there are more fruitful avenues for the
promotion of free software.

> If s/he is does not notice, s/he is not a worthy customer.

Precisely. There are none so blind as those that refuse to see. If one
puts aside the egotism of working for a *good* cause, it becomes
apparent that people are really willing to make a change only when the
impetus comes from their side.

Regards,
Gora


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Re: [ilugd] ilugd Digest, Vol 47, Issue 5

2007-02-05 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
"Kamal Dave"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In my opinion the decision to opt out has its god grounds but by not 
> participating in the LA2007, there was an opportunity afforded to the MS to 
> hack the cause of conference.  It must always be understood the control over 
> the conference schedules also was given to the MS for stating their point 
> and in the ultimate the lug remained the looser.

A serious, alert [would be] customer will notice the absence of FLOSS
activists in an event which is supposed to be about FLOSS.

If s/he is does not notice, s/he is not a worthy customer.

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Re: [ilugd] ilugd Digest, Vol 47, Issue 5

2007-02-05 Thread Kamal Dave
Hi All,
In my opinion the decision to opt out has its god grounds but by not 
participating in the LA2007, there was an opportunity afforded to the MS to 
hack the cause of conference.  It must always be understood the control over 
the conference schedules also was given to the MS for stating their point 
and in the ultimate the lug remained the looser.

Due to the delay/deliemma, the thought of floating group for freelance 
software developer and developing profile of capable software developers too 
was co-presented by other persons, hence loss to the ilug-delhi.

Kamal Dave

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