Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Looking for Linux training institute. Really?
Hey! you just sent your name and details on a public mailing list with perhaps thousands of subscribers, in delhi. did i mention the list *may* have several lurkers from the instt you mention? Hehe, good thinking! ;) I was just thinking (and let me not be flamebait foe this!) - does learning Linux (or for that matter windows or what have you) really require an insitute? Lets see what an institute *should give you, in terms of infrastructure and instructors. 1)A/C labs with machines running the required software 2)Course material with excercises and things 3)Experienced faculty 4)A certificate (in or without association with an company like RedHat) Now, based on certain bad experiences which people have made public on the list (including but not limited to inferior facilities, inexperienced instructors etc), as well as having come across people who've faced similar experiences, why don't we decide before hand whether an institute is up to the mark or not? Now, that in itself is a tough task, since there exist no *definite certification guidelines (is the ISO or something valid here?). And, It is obviously not possible for a newbie to determine the standards being followed at any of these institutes. Another important factor here is, most graduates of such institutes rejoin them as faculty, without gaining too much practical and application specific knowledge (Correct me if I'm wrong). The result is imparting knowledge which itself is partial. (As an example, if someone is taught by an instructor, he/she doesnt gain 100% of the knowledge which the latter has. At the very max, may be about 70%. If this person then goes to teach another newbie, the resulting decline is easily noticeable.) Maybe its possible for the community to actually get together and form/or propogate a certification scheme? or at the very least, do (on a volunteer basis) a review of the more famous institutes as a guide to neophytes. and IMHO, getting your hands dirty sitting on a computer, with a couple of tutorials on the side, and actually *working on something new beats going through a book from cover to cover. Unless you actually try and manipulate your computer to do something, you're really not going to learn much. And as sorry to as I am to say it, most institutes (and even a few universities) hardly give focus to practical matters. (BTW, I'm currently *Not in Delhi, and these statements are *not directed at any particualr institute or individual on this mailing list. This is a general amalgamation of my thoughts :-) Regards, vik = -- Viksit Gaur http://www.viksit.com me[at]viksit.com viksit[at]linux-delhi[dot]org 'Not all who wander are lost.' - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Looking for Linux training institute
New Horizons (lodhi Road) , is good training institute for Linux. However I suggest that you interview the faculty before joining. |+--- || Nishikant Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || -delhi.org | || | || | || 04/23/2004 03:29 AM | || Please respond to The Linux-Delhi mailing list | || | |+--- ---| | | | To: ILUG-D Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Subject: [ilugd] [Fwd: Looking for Linux training institute | ---| Original Message Message from GAGAN TANEJA: Dear Sir, i am working as a system administrator. i want to change my profile and i am very much interested in Linux. I want to do the linux from best institute . please suggest me . i am living in delhi . You suggest me a institute in delhi where i can learn linux. thanks i will wait for yours reply . ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] [Fwd: Looking for Linux training institute
Hi, Institute faculty does not have any practical knowledge and ideas. Two of my friends have done RHCE course from New Horizons and STG but still don't have good knowledge about Linux. I think you should look for exp. And professional person. If you need the address please reply this mail. Thanks Vikram Gaur -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:37 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Looking for Linux training institute New Horizons (lodhi Road) , is good training institute for Linux. However I suggest that you interview the faculty before joining. |+--- || Nishikant Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || -delhi.org | || | || | || 04/23/2004 03:29 AM | || Please respond to The Linux-Delhi mailing list | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: ILUG-D Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Subject: [ilugd] [Fwd: Looking for Linux training institute | --- | Original Message Message from GAGAN TANEJA: Dear Sir, i am working as a system administrator. i want to change my profile and i am very much interested in Linux. I want to do the linux from best institute . please suggest me . i am living in delhi . You suggest me a institute in delhi where i can learn linux. thanks i will wait for yours reply . ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Looking for Linux training institute
hi well it is not anymore.and i am not saying this coz i heard it, but coz i am doing RHCE from there, and in between of my class, in my second module which is 133, we people have been hanging, waiting and querying for our classes, as our previous teacher was left, and they were unable to find any other teacher, but now the classes are started but the teacher is not upto the mark, he is unable to answer ur queries outside the book, few of my collegues from the class are planning to take there money back for the coming module as New Horizons is not what we expected (atleast for now) but...finally choice is always urs, go ask about the course, see the infrastructure of the institute and blah blah. and if u think it is worth.join and from my personal experience...do i need to tell U what to do? sudeep Note: i dont want to be a** getting fire in the institute so plz try not to mention my namethanks --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New Horizons (lodhi Road) , is good training institute for Linux. ?However I suggest that you interview the faculty before joining. Original Message Message from GAGAN TANEJA: Dear Sir, i am working as a system administrator. i want to change my profile and i am very much interested in Linux. I want to do the linux from best institute . please suggest me . i am living in delhi . You suggest me a institute in delhi where i can learn linux. thanks i will wait for yours reply . _ Linux.Net --Open Source to everyone Powered by Linare Corporation http://www.linare.com/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Looking for Linux training institute
similar is my experience.. Warm Regards. - V SHEKHAR - Tel : +91 40 3238 5444 - Original Message - From: Sudeep Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, April 26, 2004 4:50 pm Subject: Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Looking for Linux training institute hi well it is not anymore.and i am not saying this coz i heard it, but coz i am doing RHCE from there, and in between of my class, in my second module which is 133, we people have been hanging, waiting and querying for our classes, as our previous teacher was left, and they were unable to find any other teacher, but now the classes are started but the teacher is not upto the mark, he is unable to answer ur queries outside the book, few of my collegues from the class are planning to take there money back for the coming module as New Horizons is not what we expected (atleast for now) but...finally choice is always urs, go ask about the course, see the infrastructure of the institute and blah blah. and if u think it is worth.join and from my personal experience...do i need to tell U what to do? sudeep Note: i dont want to be a** getting fire in the institute so plz try not to mention my namethanks --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New Horizons (lodhi Road) , is good training institute for Linux. ?However I suggest that you interview the faculty before joining. Original Message Message from GAGAN TANEJA: Dear Sir, i am working as a system administrator. i want to change my profile and i am very much interested in Linux. I want to do the linux from best institute . please suggest me . i am living in delhi . You suggest me a institute in delhi where i can learn linux. thanks i will wait for yours reply . _ Linux.Net --Open Source to everyone Powered by Linare Corporation http://www.linare.com/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Virus scanned by ERNET-NOC ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Looking for Linux training institute
On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 16:50, Sudeep Sharma wrote: [snip] Note: i dont want to be a** getting fire in the institute so plz try not to mention my namethanks you just sent your name and details on a public mailing list with perhaps thousands of subscribers, in delhi. did i mention the list *may* have several lurkers from the instt you mention? best of luck, and kishore would like to take closeup shots of the fire for posterity's sake... :-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
