Re: [ilugd] SAMBA server config... best tool ??
Sanjeev Ghane Gupta wrote: I have used SWAT precisely once, 4 years ago. I had a well-commented smb.conf file, needed to add a new share, so used SWAT. It added the new share, stripped ALL comments, and re-wrote smb.conf. No backup. Unforgivable. But isnt this the same with any frontend/shell to an existing program? One has to make a consistent decision while using any GUI frontends which edit the same config file that you can edit manually - either use the GUI all the time or edit the config file manually all the time. I personally do both - I use GUI the first time to create a template, and then consistently *allways* manually edit them. Comments are for humans; if you decide to use an automated/GUI frontend, you have to sacrifice that unless the GUI allows you to make contextual comments to options. The connection between comments and the option that it is related to is very subjective - I can make a global comment somewhere or a comment on the next option in the file. Say you add an additional option to the configuration - Where will the UI put a new option line without disturbing the comment context? Too difficult, not reliable and not worth the trouble when all you want is to create an UI for users to add option reliably. It is virtually unthinkable to ever make an UI which can reliably handle preserving comments to options. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] SAMBA server config... best tool ??
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Sanjeev Ghane Gupta wrote: It added the new share, stripped ALL comments, and re-wrote smb.conf. No backup. Unforgivable. It is virtually unthinkable to ever make an UI which can reliably handle preserving comments to options. True. I am not asking that it should have figured out if its newlines should appear above or below a comment. What I was cheesed about was what I said above: it did not backup the file, it gave no warning. I know it was my fault, but I partially blame the program for not adhering to the principle of Least Surprise. -- Sanjeev ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] SAMBA server config... best tool ??
Sandip == Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sandip anil bindal wrote: a) Apart from SAMBA, is there any other alternative which is easy to use and user friendly ? b) What do generally list admins recommend and use on this list for easy sharing ( non-command line - pref. GUI ) of files/dir on Linux PC to other LAN Linux/solaris/windows PCs.. Sandip Try configuring Samba using swat. Eww, please don't recommend that POS called Swat! Use Webmin (I'm sure it has a Samba plugin) or better yet edit the files manually. Swat is a Bad Idea(tm), just like GUI front-ends to Iptables. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] SAMBA server config... best tool ??
- Original Message - From: Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [ilugd] SAMBA server config... best tool ?? Sandip == Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sandip anil bindal wrote: a) Apart from SAMBA, is there any other alternative which is easy to use and user friendly ? b) What do generally list admins recommend and use on this list for easy sharing ( non-command line - pref. GUI ) of files/dir on Linux PC to other LAN Linux/solaris/windows PCs.. Sandip Try configuring Samba using swat. Eww, please don't recommend that POS called Swat! Use Webmin (I'm sure it has a Samba plugin) or better yet edit the files manually. Swat is a Bad Idea(tm), just like GUI front-ends to Iptables. Regards, -- Raju snip Raju , Would you please elaborate more on why Swat is a Bad Idea (tm) Komal ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] SAMBA server config... best tool ??
--- komal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raju , Would you please elaborate more on why Swat is a Bad Idea (tm) Komal - SWAT stands for Samba Web Administration Tool. Google/linux came up with this http://samba.linuxbe.org/en/samba/learn/swat.html The problem AFAIK with swat is that it is not easy to configure. Beats the hell out of you and you still get nowhere. That's so in many cases, but, those who are successful in configuring it right love it. -LinuxLala _ Linux.Net --Open Source to everyone Powered by Linare Corporation http://www.linare.com/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] SAMBA server config... best tool ??
Raj Mathur wrote: Eww, please don't recommend that POS called Swat! Use Webmin (I'm sure it has a Samba plugin) or better yet edit the files manually. Swat is a Bad Idea(tm), just like GUI front-ends to Iptables. And could you tell me how it is a bad solution to the OP's question? swat comes by default enabled only to be accessed from localhost. Yes, it asks for root password over a cleartext based HTTP POST system. But I am sure, it is good enough to be used over localhost when the local root account is considered to be secure enough. And if configured to be used along with stunnel it is as secure as any other over the network. UI - webmin or what not. BTW, even webmin is considered to be a security hole by many. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] SAMBA server config... best tool ??
anil bindal wrote: Hi, a) Apart from SAMBA, is there any other alternative which is easy to use and user friendly ? I think the way to do this in *nix world is through NFS. I am not a NFS man myself, but people who use it for sharing files are generally happy with it. Another plus point about NFS is that you can browse it using Konqueror by typing lan:// (again I have not tried this out myself, since I get my work done with Samba and not NFS). This has been a part of conqueror since 2.0 See http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-2.0.php As for setting up the NFS you can have a look at Linux NFS-HOWTO http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/index.html I am not sure if you have a webmin module for configuring NFS -- / \__ (@\___Raj Shekhar / O My home : http://geocities.com/lunatech3007/ / (_/My blog : http://lunatech.journalspace.com/ /_/ U ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] SAMBA server config... best tool ??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Komal == komal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sandip == Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sandip anil bindal wrote: a) Apart from SAMBA, is there any other alternative which is easy to use and user friendly ? b) What do generally list admins recommend and use on this list for easy sharing ( non-command line - pref. GUI ) of files/dir on Linux PC to other LAN Linux/solaris/windows PCs.. Sandip Try configuring Samba using swat. Eww, please don't recommend that POS called Swat! Use Webmin (I'm sure it has a Samba plugin) or better yet edit the files manually. Swat is a Bad Idea(tm), just like GUI front-ends to Iptables. Regards, -- Raju Komal snip Komal Raju , Would you please elaborate more on why Swat is a Bad Komal Idea (tm) Because it's incomplete. You can make manual edit changes in smb.conf, and then run Swat and if Swat doesn't understand those changes it'll just happily delete them. It'll also delete any comments that you put in your smb.conf to make it more readable to the next person who comes along to maintain Samba in your organisation. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFAlxZCyWjQ78xo0X8RAqVUAJwJy0uyRZmJN7Kb/CMDPicKSLlfCwCdGMMF 4yLM/Nf7D4Bdv/Um6tduvPw= =Yzm4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
