Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-04-02 Thread vivek khurana

--- Anupam Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I suggest adding some OpenGL stuff like Mesa and
> Open Inventor (libraries) 
> and the OpenGL Red Book (doc).

 Can you recommend the exact version along with the
dependencies that might exist.

> And how about some support for alternative languages
> like Haskell and Ocaml 
> (or does everyone here use only the old faithfuls?).

 It can be included but again recommend the stable
version if you know any.


> I'd also suggest wineX but I think it is not freely
> distributable. How does 
> PCQLinux 2004 include it then?

 PCQ might have taken permission from winex.

Regards
VK


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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-04-02 Thread Anupam Jain
 I suggest adding some OpenGL stuff like Mesa and Open Inventor (libraries) 
and the OpenGL Red Book (doc).
And how about some support for alternative languages like Haskell and Ocaml 
(or does everyone here use only the old faithfuls?).

Some more suggestions - VB clones (Though I have never used one but I hear 
such beasts exist), Gaming engines like Crystal Space SDK.

I'd also suggest wineX but I think it is not freely distributable. How does 
PCQLinux 2004 include it then?

- AJ


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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-04-01 Thread linuxlingam
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 07:52, vivek khurana wrote:
[snip]
> > 
> > in addition, the cds must also carry stuff people
> > don't think about,
> > like:
> > 
> > 1) templates, clip-art, themes, for openoffice,
> > xmms, GDM, gimp, etc.
> > 2) loads of muft and mukt music. encourage artists
> > in india to submit
[snip]

>  LL how come muft music a development tool??? Although
> this itself can be a good idea to have cd of muft and
> mukt music. You can get in touch with Lify for this,
> wait a minute you are already in touch with them.

er.. look carefully, i say "in addition".

LL

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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-04-01 Thread vivek khurana

--- Arjun Asthana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> How about some desktops/WMs? Esp. the light ones
> (some of which are pain to 
> download over dial-up) like XPde, XFCE, Fluxbox (not
> a pain to download, but 
> still, it rocks!) or ROX (well, the things that make
> up the WM part of it 
> are).

 Are desktop/Wm part of development tools?? I don't
think so. If the list thinks so, we can recommend.

Regards
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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-31 Thread Raj Mathur
> "Vivek" == vivek khurana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Vivek> [snip]

Vivek>  LL how come muft music a development tool??? Although this
Vivek> itself can be a good idea to have cd of muft and mukt
Vivek> music. You can get in touch with Lify for this, wait a
Vivek> minute you are already in touch with them.
 
Great idea!  You can have a WHOLE CD of me singing for muft and mukt!

Now doesn't that make you happy?

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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-31 Thread vivek khurana

--- linuxlingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the cds must always carry the 'BIG BLOBS' that
> people can't usually
> download. these include the latest versions of:
> 
> 1) libraries. libraries. libraries:
> 2) QT
> 3) KDE
> 4) GNOME
> 5) Mozilla
> 6) Evolution (is that possible?)
> 7) OpenOfficex.x.
> 
> in addition, the cds must also carry stuff people
> don't think about,
> like:
> 
> 1) templates, clip-art, themes, for openoffice,
> xmms, GDM, gimp, etc.
> 2) loads of muft and mukt music. encourage artists
> in india to submit
> their classical indian music for instance, as ogg
> vorbis files, under a
> creativecommons license, to be distributed on these
> cds. ditto with
> photographs, videos, etc.

 LL how come muft music a development tool??? Although
this itself can be a good idea to have cd of muft and
mukt music. You can get in touch with Lify for this,
wait a minute you are already in touch with them.
 
> 
> 
> also, i hope LiFY and LFY don't become delhi-mailing
> list centric. hope
> they have posted their request for suggestions to
> major mailing lists
> across india, and/or to the linux india mailing list
> as well.

 I had posted it to LIP as it tries to be be a
developers list.

Regards
VK

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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-31 Thread linuxlingam
the cds must always carry the 'BIG BLOBS' that people can't usually
download. these include the latest versions of:

1) libraries. libraries. libraries:
2) QT
3) KDE
4) GNOME
5) Mozilla
6) Evolution (is that possible?)
7) OpenOfficex.x.

in addition, the cds must also carry stuff people don't think about,
like:

1) templates, clip-art, themes, for openoffice, xmms, GDM, gimp, etc.
2) loads of muft and mukt music. encourage artists in india to submit
their classical indian music for instance, as ogg vorbis files, under a
creativecommons license, to be distributed on these cds. ditto with
photographs, videos, etc.


also, i hope LiFY and LFY don't become delhi-mailing list centric. hope
they have posted their request for suggestions to major mailing lists
across india, and/or to the linux india mailing list as well.

:-)
LL

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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-31 Thread Pankaj Dekate
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 17:14, vivek khurana wrote:
> --- Pankaj Dekate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hi,
> > present in any linux distributions.I would indeed
> > stress on day to day
> > utilities and documentation which are much
> > needed.Lify cd's should come
> > up with new libraries and the accompanying
> > dependencies.Otherwise there
> > is no point in coming up with a library which has a
> > dependency on a
> > newer version of other library which is not included
> > with lify cd.
>  Now this is a good idea. can you make a list of newer
> libs along with dependencies and post it to list. Any
> way all the tools will carry the latest versions of
> the softwares which will certainly be newer than the
> ones provided with a distro.
> > Bugzilla and Doxygen are also a good choice.
> > QMail will also be a good choice in mail server
> > category.
>  Is qmail a development tool
Just check the line above your question.I mentioned "mail servers".So i
guess a mail server isn't a development tool.
> > IBM Websphere will be a good choice in the
> > application server category.
> 
>  Websphere is  a proprietory product. Please do't post
> proprietory products.
> Sorry for posting a proprietory product.I should have suggested Jrun or JBoss.
But i thought since websphere is most widely used than JBoss it would
help most of the people to try hands on linux for java development for
J2EE.
> Regards
> VK
> 
  You can include memprof,valgrind in the development category.
If you are including Kdevelop3.0 and above then I suggest you also
include dot program from www.graphviz.org  .This program is needed by
Kdevelop3.0 and above.Although it will work without dot the developers
would miss the graphical class browser functionality in kdevelop.
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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-31 Thread Arjun Asthana
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On Tuesday 30 March 2004 16:40, you wrote:
>[snip]
>  I am adding three more categories
> 5) Libraries
> 6) Testing Tools
>  Junit, Ant
> 7) Misc
>  AgroUML, ORBIT, Bugzilla, Amaya, Webcpp, Doxygen
>
>  Every one is free to add categories/suggestions

How about some desktops/WMs? Esp. the light ones (some of which are pain to 
download over dial-up) like XPde, XFCE, Fluxbox (not a pain to download, but 
still, it rocks!) or ROX (well, the things that make up the WM part of it 
are).

> Regards
> VK
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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-31 Thread vivek khurana

--- Pankaj Dekate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi,
> present in any linux distributions.I would indeed
> stress on day to day
> utilities and documentation which are much
> needed.Lify cd's should come
> up with new libraries and the accompanying
> dependencies.Otherwise there
> is no point in coming up with a library which has a
> dependency on a
> newer version of other library which is not included
> with lify cd.
 Now this is a good idea. can you make a list of newer
libs along with dependencies and post it to list. Any
way all the tools will carry the latest versions of
the softwares which will certainly be newer than the
ones provided with a distro.
> Bugzilla and Doxygen are also a good choice.
> QMail will also be a good choice in mail server
> category.
 Is qmail a development tool
> IBM Websphere will be a good choice in the
> application server category.

 Websphere is  a proprietory product. Please do't post
proprietory products.

Regards
VK

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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-30 Thread Pankaj Dekate
hi,
Eclipse was  a good suggestion.If the C& C++  plugins are developed then
i guess it will even take over anjuta and kdevelop in the near
future.The suggestions given by vivek are good.But i guess they are
present in any linux distributions.I would indeed stress on day to day
utilities and documentation which are much needed.Lify cd's should come
up with new libraries and the accompanying dependencies.Otherwise there
is no point in coming up with a library which has a dependency on a
newer version of other library which is not included with lify cd.
Bugzilla and Doxygen are also a good choice.
QMail will also be a good choice in mail server category.
IBM Websphere will be a good choice in the application server category.

With warm regards,
Pankaj
On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 16:40, vivek khurana wrote:
>  Begining suggestions
> > 1)IDE
>  Anjuta, Eclipse, Boa Constructor
> > 2)Compilers/Interpretors
>  perl, python, gcc, wxPython, wxWindows, NASM
> > 3)Databases
>  Mysql, MaxDB, postgresql,
> > 4)Documentation
> > 
> 
>  I am adding three more categories
> 5) Libraries
> 6) Testing Tools
>  Junit, Ant
> 7) Misc
>  AgroUML, ORBIT, Bugzilla, Amaya, Webcpp, Doxygen
> 
>  Every one is free to add categories/suggestions
> 
> Regards
> VK
> 
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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-30 Thread Sharninder Singh
> > 
> > > 4)Documentation
> > 
> > the whole of tldp.org
>  i dont see any point in having whole of the tldp, but
> we can have documentation from tldp regarding
> devlopment and DB configuration.

Right !! I did get a bit carried away there :)

Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-30 Thread vivek khurana

--- Sharninder Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> are few others on freshmeat which look really
> promising.

 Please choose the ones you find are usefull and post
them on list. We can have discussion on there
useability and why should they be included in the cd.
> 
> > 4)Documentation
> 
> the whole of tldp.org
 i dont see any point in having whole of the tldp, but
we can have documentation from tldp regarding
devlopment and DB configuration.

Regards
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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-30 Thread Sharninder Singh
> 
> 1)IDE

Anjuta / Kdevelop

> 2)Compilers/Interpretors

gcc / gambas (gambas.sf.net) 

> 3)Databases

Can't think of any .. almost everyone has mysql / postgres. But there
are few others on freshmeat which look really promising.

> 4)Documentation

the whole of tldp.org


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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-30 Thread vivek khurana
 Begining suggestions
> 1)IDE
 Anjuta, Eclipse, Boa Constructor
> 2)Compilers/Interpretors
 perl, python, gcc, wxPython, wxWindows, NASM
> 3)Databases
 Mysql, MaxDB, postgresql,
> 4)Documentation
> 

 I am adding three more categories
5) Libraries
6) Testing Tools
 Junit, Ant
7) Misc
 AgroUML, ORBIT, Bugzilla, Amaya, Webcpp, Doxygen

 Every one is free to add categories/suggestions

Regards
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