Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-24 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Saturday, 24 Dec 2005 6:24 pm, Mayank Jain wrote:
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>
> Where can i find the latest archives?
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Try the links given at the bottom of every mail of this mailing list. :)

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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-24 Thread nipra
Hi,

On 12/24/05, Mayank Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/24/05, nipra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 12/24/05, Mayank Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 12/4/05, T.Meyarivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i know - its the christmas day - well - we can make merry
> > > > post the meet..
> > >
> > > Umm... What time is the meeting guys?
> > As stated by mary on ILUG-D announce-list meeting will start with the
> > talk by supreet at 2PM.

Timing and venue for the meeting was announced on ILUG-D General list
so I'm sorry
for that.Probably you missed that post.

> Where can i find the latest archives?

This link may help:

http://www.lug-delhi.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=75b51049985e5b490495e5577a2d2294

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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-24 Thread Mayank Jain
On 12/24/05, nipra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 12/24/05, Mayank Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 12/4/05, T.Meyarivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > i know - its the christmas day - well - we can make merry
> > > post the meet..
> >
> > Umm... What time is the meeting guys?
> As stated by mary on ILUG-D announce-list meeting will start with the
> talk by supreet at 2PM.

The Ilugd-Announce archives show messages just till Dec 2004
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I was directed to these archives from this page...
http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/anCMS/mailingList.cgi?action=mailingLists

Where can i find the latest archives?

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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-24 Thread nipra
Hi,

On 12/24/05, Mayank Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/4/05, T.Meyarivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > i know - its the christmas day - well - we can make merry
> > post the meet..
>
> Umm... What time is the meeting guys?
>
> --
> regards,
> makuchaku

As stated by mary on ILUG-D announce-list meeting will start with the
talk by supreet at 2PM.

Regards
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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-24 Thread Mayank Jain
On 12/4/05, T.Meyarivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i know - its the christmas day - well - we can make merry
> post the meet..

Umm... What time is the meeting guys?

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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-21 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On 12/21/05, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>.  I will try to
> do that, but the important part was that NRCF has some 50
> colleges interested, and can probably fund a concerted effort.

could we have more detail about NRCF

>
> * the place itself - i.e. place of interaction with the students
>(whether we talk to a local college and ask them to give us
>  space - projector - kachoris and all)

Kinda help out in this regard in Ghaziabad , I have talked with
management and i think i can pull this out.




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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-20 Thread vivek khurana
> a pain. For my side, I am willing to mentor anyone
> working
> on a task related to Indian language computing.
> Thanks for bringing this up Mary. I would like to

 Kudos Gora for being a volunteer mentor, i am ready
to mentor anyone who is willing to take linux as a
hobby.
 Each one Teach one (or it should be mentor one).

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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-20 Thread Gora Mohanty
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:[...]

Gora Mohanty wrote:
> Hi,
>At the ILUG-D meeting on the 25th,
> I would also like to have an open discussion on the following items:
>   1. Mentoring student programmers in FOSS: 

>   2. Better collaboration with other LUGs, the National Resource
>   Centre for FOSS (NRCF), and other parties.

What is the NRCF about , what resources does it provide

I have been meaning to write a short summary of our
discussions with Prof. Krishnan and others of Anna
University-KBC and NRCF. These have happened at foss.in
and elsewhere, and I believe that the NRCF could play a
very significant role in FOSS activities in India. I have been
travelling since the meet, and haven't had time to do the
summary, but will sit down and do it tonight, as I think that
it is important for the community to take advantage of what
the NRCF is offering.

>   3. Helping organizations migrate to Linux.

Having migrated to Linux am interested to know what are the strategies 
organizations are adopting and what problems are being faced. Particular 
interest is in organizations that do not have Sys Admin skills and those that 
are deploying at the user / desktop level. And those that are migrating their 
legacy hardware as well.

We had a brief discussion on this issue at foss.in. All were 
agreed that such migrations should be supported by the
FOSS community. We even agreed to try and ensure that
each LUG helps in at least one complete migration per
year. At the meeting there wasn't anyone with actual
experience in such migrations, but a couple of important
points raised were that the initial impetus should come
from within the organization seeking to migrate, and that
for sustainability, such efforts need to be funded.

> I would be glad to prepare a short presentation outlining
> these areas, but getting involved in any of these would
> require a concerted effort on the part of ILUG-D members.

would it be possible to upload the presentation to the ILUG website so that 
some of us remote members may access it.
OK, I will volunteer to write a short summary, and also make
whatever slides I have available online.

Regards,
Gora


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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-20 Thread Gora Mohanty
(I hate the new Yahoo interface. If anyone is listening, it really sucks
  for doing quoting properly. And, thanks, but I *do* not need HTML
  in my mail. Apologies to ILUG-D for the rant.)

"T.Meyarivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would also like to have an open 
discussion on the following 
> items:


breakup of the above into:

* source of funding (for the tutors and all - if the college/etc is 
   not willing to pay for the tutors and all)

Sorry, this was supposed to be part of the summary that I was
going to write up on the discussion with the National
Resource Centre for FOSS (NRCF) folk at foss.in.  I will try to 
do that, but the important part was that NRCF has some 50
colleges interested, and can probably fund a concerted effort.

* the place itself - i.e. place of interaction with the students
   (whether we talk to a local college and ask them to give us
 space - projector - kachoris and all)

Yes, this is something that needs to be done. But, in the
longer term, I think that this will have to move to an online
development model.

* expression of interest by various members willing to take
  responsibility for specific projects (i.e. those with 
  deliverables closely matching stated goals) can lead to quick
  and definitive start in the specified areas.. - imho

This is the other important thing. We need to have
commitments that people follow up on. It will require a
significant amount of time, at least in the beginning. Given
the current educational culture in India, mentoring will be
a pain. For my side, I am willing to mentor anyone working
on a task related to Indian language computing.
Thanks for bringing this up Mary. I would like to have these issues
discussed at the meeting.

Regards,
Gora


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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi

Was interested in knowing more about some of the points raised by Gora.

I cannot come for the Dec 25 meet so would appreciate posts on the list 
it self


Gora Mohanty wrote:
> Hi,
>At the ILUG-D meeting on the 25th,
> I would also like to have an open discussion on the following items:
>   1. Mentoring student programmers in FOSS: 

>   2. Better collaboration with other LUGs, the National Resource
>   Centre for FOSS (NRCF), and other parties.

What is the NRCF about , what resources does it provide

>   3. Helping organizations migrate to Linux.

Having migrated to Linux am interested to know what are the strategies 
organizations are adopting and what problems are being faced. Particular 
interest is in organizations that do not have Sys Admin skills and those 
that are deploying at the user / desktop level. And those that are 
migrating their legacy hardware as well.


> I would be glad to prepare a short presentation outlining these areas,
> but getting involved in any of these would require a concerted effort
> on the part of ILUG-D members.

would it be possible to upload the presentation to the ILUG website so 
that some of us remote members may access it.

thanks
ram


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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-20 Thread T.Meyarivan
> I would also like to have an open discussion on the following items:

breakup of the above into:

* source of funding (for the tutors and all - if the college/etc is not
   willing to pay for the tutors and all)

* the place itself - i.e. place of interaction with the students
   (whether we talk to a local college and ask them to give us space -
   projector - kachoris and all)

* expression of interest by various members willing to take
   responsibility for specific projects (i.e. those with deliverables
   closely matching stated goals)

can lead to quick and definitive start in the specified areas.. - imho

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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-20 Thread Gora Mohanty
Hi,
   Sorry to piggyback on Supreet's post, but I seem to have lost the
original message in this thread. At the ILUG-D meeting on the 25th,
I would also like to have an open discussion on the following items:
  1. Mentoring student programmers in FOSS: for me, the special
  interest is in areas related to Indic computing, but others could
  have different areas of interest. A first need would be to identify
  projects that are of immediate interest to ILUG-D folk, and
  discuss how best to get other people involved.
  2. Better collaboration with other LUGs, the National Resource
  Centre for FOSS (NRCF), and other parties.
  3. Helping organizations migrate to Linux.
I would be glad to prepare a short presentation outlining these areas,
but getting involved in any of these would require a concerted effort
on the part of ILUG-D members.

Regards,
Gora


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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-20 Thread Supreet Sethi
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 08:44 -0800, vivek khurana wrote:
> 
> --- Supreet Sethi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Suggestions welcome
> 
>  Can you cover Gnu make, how to generate/buld
> makefiles etc etc.
> 

Sorry to disappoint you, but again auto(brother,sisters,family)conf/make
and other build systems like ant and JAM deserve a talk in its own
accord

If we find enough interest, I could explain parts of it and how they
fall in place in whole build jigsaw puzzle


> regards
> VK
> 

regards

Supreet


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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-20 Thread Supreet Sethi
I think boost requires a talk be itself. But yes, could point it as a
example of cross-platform library which could be used for mundane stuff
like file manipulation, portable math etc.

regards

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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-19 Thread Gora Mohanty
Supreet Sethi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I volunteer to give a newbie focused 
talk regarding C++
> development environment and development cycle in linux. 

Great.

> Could cover following topic
> IDE's 
> compilers

> turbo c compatibility (for people who have been working 
> with it in collages and schools)
> gcc specific options

Please, make sure that you point out again and again what is
ISO C or C++, and what isn't. The refusal to understand this
is the number one cause of newbie programming errors.


> c++ dev ecosystem (STL, libraries ... etc)
[...]

Boost also? Also, it would be useful to see templates, and 
what they can be used for.



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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
Can i get Centos 64 bit CDs in the meet at 25/12/2005 or earlier than that.
Can someone bring that for me. if yes pl. pl. do contact me.

I hope i am not dilluting the subject as i want to be in the meet to get
the CDs.
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--- Supreet Sethi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Suggestions welcome

 Can you cover Gnu make, how to generate/buld
makefiles etc etc.

regards
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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-19 Thread vivek khurana


--- Supreet Sethi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Suggestions welcome

 Can you cover Gnu make, how to generate/buld
makefiles etc etc.

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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-19 Thread Supreet Sethi
I volunteer to give a newbie focused talk regarding C++ development
environment and development cycle in linux. 

Could cover following topic
IDE's 
compilers
turbo c compatibility (for people who have been working with it in
collages and schools)
gcc specific options
c++ dev ecosystem (STL, libraries ... etc)
can have a Q and A about the subject

Suggestions welcome

regards

Supreet




On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 16:13 +0530, विवेक ऐय्यर விவெக ஐய்யர் Vivek Iyyer
wrote:
> On 12/4/05, T.Meyarivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > i know - its the christmas day - well - we can make merry
> > post the meet..
> >
> > --
> >
> > need a place to host the event/meet and all - minimum requirements
> > being a lcd projector and minimum seating capacity of 20
> >
> > i dont know if anyone is itching to talk about something - if you are -
> > do mail the list with an abstract
> how about a newbie developer focus on this one ? something like Raj's
> startup on perl or Mary on Python or Java environment on Linux by
> sandip.
> >
> > --
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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-17 Thread Nikhil Prabhakar
Hi,

On 12/16/05, विवेक  ऐय्यर விவெக ஐய்யர்  Vivek Iyyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i dont know if anyone is itching to talk about something - if you are -
> > do mail the list with an abstract
> how about a newbie developer focus on this one ? something like Raj's
> startup on perl or Mary on Python or Java environment on Linux by
> sandip.

I'm eagerly waiting for a talk on Python.Mary plz.

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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-17 Thread Gaurav Mishra
i would love animation on linux topic volunteered by vivek

On 12/16/05, विवेक  ऐय्यर விவெக ஐய்யர்  Vivek Iyyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/4/05, T.Meyarivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > i know - its the christmas day - well - we can make merry
> > post the meet..
> >
> > --
> >
> > need a place to host the event/meet and all - minimum requirements
> > being a lcd projector and minimum seating capacity of 20
> >
> > i dont know if anyone is itching to talk about something - if you are -
> > do mail the list with an abstract
> how about a newbie developer focus on this one ? something like Raj's
> startup on perl or Mary on Python or Java environment on Linux by
> sandip.
> >
> > --
>
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Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-16 Thread विवेक ऐय ्यर விவெக ஐய்யர் Vivek Iyyer
On 12/4/05, T.Meyarivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i know - its the christmas day - well - we can make merry
> post the meet..
>
> --
>
> need a place to host the event/meet and all - minimum requirements
> being a lcd projector and minimum seating capacity of 20
>
> i dont know if anyone is itching to talk about something - if you are -
> do mail the list with an abstract
how about a newbie developer focus on this one ? something like Raj's
startup on perl or Mary on Python or Java environment on Linux by
sandip.
>
> --

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