Re: Hello iMac List

2008-11-15 Thread Simon Royal

Steve

I know this.

Simon

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Subject: Re: Hello iMac List
From: Steve from Raleigh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15/11/2008 02:12


According to the (free) application MacTracker, the only eMac rated at
1.25Ghz was known as the eMac (USB 2.0) and it uses a G4 chip--to be
precise, PowerPC 7447/7457 (G4)

FYI, it was introduced April, 2004 and discontinued Mauy, 2005.




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Forgetting Wireless

2008-11-15 Thread Simon Royal

Hi

I recently updated my wireless settings on my router. I changed the SSID, 
moved from WEP to WPA and set it to hidden SSID.

I have four Macs and a phone connected wirelessly. 2x eMacs running Tiger, 
an eMac running Leopard and a PowerBook G3 running Tiger, and obviously my 
Symbian mobile phone.

None of the other Macs have a problem, but my eMac running Leopard never 
remembers the network. When you switch it on, you have to rejoin, yet all 
the other Macs remember and it is active straight away.

I am running 10.5.5 with the latest updates added.

Any ideas?

Simon

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Re: Passwords Fail in Admin and User Accounts

2008-11-15 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Nov 15, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Al Poulin wrote:


 On 20 inch aluminum Intel iMac 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo running OS X
 10.5.2, my account passwords failed to work in Admin and all Users on
 the afternoon of Nov 13.

 I had gone into Admin to install a kids' game.  This was a drag to the
 Macintosh HD and then I dragged to the Applications folder.  For the
 first time since April, I ran Repair Disk Permissions which reported:
 2008-11-13 15:49:23 -0500: Permissions differ on private/var/log/
 secure.log, should be -rw--- , they are -rw-r- .
 I ran Repair Disk Permissions again, but the previous problem message
 did not reappear, and there were no new ones.

Why did you do this? Nothing changed on your machine that would  
require RP.


 I closed Disk Utility and launched OnyX v.1.9.3; my Admin password was
 rejected.  With fast user switching to a User account, its password
 failed.  Passwords failed for two other accounts.  Still in Admin, and
 working a hunch that I could make a text change in secure.log, I
 launched Console, highlighted secure.log and got a message saying I
 had no permission to see the log.

That's because Repair Permissions borked the file.


 Using the OS installer DVD, I could not restart from Admin with the C
 key,

? If this is an issue the system is messed up, or your keyboard is  
malfunctioning.

 nor could I see a way to eject the DVD.  Looking back, I did not
 try using the on/off switch to restart.  At that point, I just wanted
 to keep things running.  Going back to the Guest account, I could
 eject the DVD.  Still in Guest and reinserting the DVD with the C key
 down, I got the DVD installer window for the first time, but the
 Macintosh HD was still the boot disk.

Your keyboard is acting up. This has happened to me a few times with  
the new keyboards, but I thought that since I was using them on older  
systems they weren't properly recognized. I got around that by  
sticking an old KB on and restarting,.


 After using the DVD's UtilitiesReset Password on each account, all
 was well.  I ran the maintenance scripts (cron jobs) with OnyX.
 However, I still could not open secure.log.  With several attempts
 on Nov 13, that log was grayed out, and I shut down for the night.
 Early on Nov 14, secure.log was still grayed out.  Later, I opened
 the log which showed this in the first line:
 Nov 14 21:26:51 Macintosh newsyslog[635]: logfile turned over due to
 size100K

 What happened?  Why did the passwords stop working?

I think you had a major keyboard fart, possibly

 Hmmm, does a log control access?

secure.log records administrative access requests and results. if it  
cannot be written to things can be messed up, but all you changed was  
your own ability to read it, since root owns the processes that  
control it.

  Where is the file that needed fixing?

Not sure.


 Why couldn't I check secure.log?

The secure.log SHOULD have -rw-r...permissions, root owns it. Since  
you're not root you need to have group -based rights to read it (admin)

On my machine:

the-pismo:~ johnson$ cd /private/var/log
the-pismo:log johnson$ ls -l secure.log
-rw-r-  1 root  admin  96182 Nov 15 14:26 secure.log


File permissions are (simply put) -rwx rwx rwx and proceed from left  
to right: Owner-Group-World, the r stands for 'read', w for 'write'  
and x for 'execute' rights.

When the file was -rw-r- that meant the owner had read and write  
permissions, and the group had read permissions.

Looking at my machine the owner of the file is root, and the group is  
admin (or administrative users)

When Permissions Repair changed it to -rw--- that meant only  
root could read the file. An admin users rights to read the file  
derive from the group permissions, and since the group now had no  
rights, you couldn't read the file.

This had NOTHING to do with the passwords being messed up..something  
else happened to cause that, and I'm not sure what...I've never run  
into this problem before.

--
Bruce Johnson
U of Az  College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group
Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs


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Re: Passwords Fail in Admin and User Accounts

2008-11-15 Thread Al Poulin

On Nov 15, 6:58 pm, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 On Nov 15, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Al Poulin wrote:

  I had gone into Admin to install a kids' game.  This was a drag to the
  Macintosh HD and then I dragged to the Applications folder.  For the
  first time since April, I ran Repair Disk Permissions which reported:
  2008-11-13 15:49:23 -0500: Permissions differ on private/var/log/
  secure.log, should be -rw--- , they are -rw-r- .

 Why did you do this? Nothing changed on your machine that would  
 require RP.

Only because of the failure of the first drag install to put the game
into the Applications folder.  Also, because I had not run it for
seven months.  I've had another app, Reunion,  go directly into the
Applications folder when first dragged to Macintosh HD.

   I launched Console, highlighted secure.log and got a message saying I
  had no permission to see the log.

 That's because Repair Permissions borked the file.

   Still in Guest and reinserting the DVD with the C key
  down, I got the DVD installer window for the first time, but the
  Macintosh HD was still the boot disk.

 Your keyboard is acting up. This has happened to me a few times with  
 the new keyboards, but I thought that since I was using them on older  
 systems they weren't properly recognized. I got around that by  
 sticking an old KB on and restarting,.

Oh, oh, I'm using the old white keyboard A1048 because the new flat
key board that comes with this aluminum iMac does not tell my fingers
where they are.  I should have retrieved the new one while
troubleshooting.

  What happened?  Why did the passwords stop working?

 I think you had a major keyboard fart, possibly

 When Permissions Repair changed it to -rw--- that meant only  
 root could read the file. An admin users rights to read the file  
 derive from the group permissions, and since the group now had no  
 rights, you couldn't read the file.

You've thrown a great deal of light on obscurity, thank you.

 This had NOTHING to do with the passwords being messed up..something  
 else happened to cause that, and I'm not sure what...I've never run  
 into this problem before.

So the password glitch is due to the keyboard or possibly the Repair
Permissions itself?

Al Poulin
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