Re: thumb drives (jump drives)

2009-02-06 Thread michael bluestein

Hello Kyle and thanks for replying to my post.
Actually I am running 10.3.9 but will be upgrading OS to Tiger later today.
As i said I see the sandisk in system profiler under USB and I also
see it in the Disk Utility application.  Of course I do not know how
to use disk utility.  I so not understand any of the terms as New
Image, unmount and a few others.  so I do not know how to fix the
sandisk through the disk utility.
Anyway the computer does recognize the flash drive but that is the extent of it.

I will try again after I install the newer OS.  Using a flash drive
sure is handy when one needs it.

Thanks again
Michael

On 2/5/09, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote:

  What OS are you running Michael.  If it's OS9 than that could be your 
 problem.



  On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:20 AM, michael bluestein blueste...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  
   Hello,  I have been reading these posts and I can use some help.
   First off I am very new to macs.  I know nothing about the disk
   utility.  I just thought that macs had flash drives made for them.  So
   I grabbed my sandisk and tried again to get it to work.  Now no drive
   shows up but system profiler recognizes it and it also shows up in the
   disk utility.  I cannot figure out how to use it.  Is there a website
   that will enlighten me.  I am just ignorant when it comes to macs.  I
   do not understand how the disk utility works.  It is all greek to me.
   Where can I get some info on using the disk utility.
  
   Thanks to all
   Michael Bluestein Prospect Park PA 19076
  
   On 2/3/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:
  
  
On Feb 2, 2009, at 9:08 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote:
  
 If you have a san disk that has a problem they have mac friendly
 utilities
 on their site btw.  I got one version of the cruzer with a backup
 software
 site that was PC only at one point.  5 minutes on SanDisk's website
 and it
 was fixed.
  
Wow. Guess the pissed-off Mac users finally got through to them.
  
Their U3 removal software originally did not run under 10.5, and at
one point they were saying they were not going to upgrade it to do so.
  
read through that thread on their web site http://tinyurl.com/apb9nm
  
Also, contrary to may people's syatements in that thread, the only
issue was NOT that an extra CD icon would appear. If you tried to
reformat or re-partition the device using Disk Utility, you could
brick it.
  
I have several of them, and they work fine, but I was pissed that I
had to find a friggin' PC to get their pre-installed crap off the
things.
  
--
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group
  
Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs
  
  
  

  
  
   
  

  


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Re: Safari Panic

2009-02-06 Thread Dan

At 10:54 AM + 2/5/2009, Simon Royal wrote:

It wasn't a normal panic. Not the dark box with 'you need to restart your
Mac' written in lots of languages.

It was similar to the text when you start up in verbose mode.

Ohkay.  So what do the logs say?

- Dan.
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Re: Safari Panic

2009-02-06 Thread Tim Stephens

 At 10:54 AM + 2/5/2009, Simon Royal wrote:
 
 It wasn't a normal panic. Not the dark box with 'you need to restart your
 Mac' written in lots of languages.
 
 It was similar to the text when you start up in verbose mode.
 

If you started up in verbose mode, I think that you get a similarly
verbose kernel panic message.

Tim

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Re: thumb drives (jump drives)

2009-02-06 Thread Al Poulin

On Feb 5, 11:03 am, michael bluestein blueste...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Kyle and thanks for replying to my post.
 Actually I am running 10.3.9 but will be upgrading OS to Tiger later today.
 As i said I see the sandisk in system profiler under USB and I also
 see it in the Disk Utility application.  Of course I do not know how
 to use disk utility.  I so not understand any of the terms as New
 Image, unmount and a few others.  so I do not know how to fix the
 sandisk through the disk utility.
 Anyway the computer does recognize the flash drive but that is the extent of 
 it.

 I will try again after I install the newer OS.  Using a flash drive
 sure is handy when one needs it.

For reformatting the flash drive, the Help function in Disk Utility
should work as I mentioned in my previous post.  If there is a problem
doing that, I'm not sure that the long discussion on SanDisk's web
site that Bruce Johnson pointed to earlier in this thread will help.
That U3 business seems to be an entirely different issue.  But I like
Randy B. Singer's statement in SanDisk's thread; see Message 21 of 41
in the third page.  I notice that some folks simply quit trying with
SanDisk drives and got another brand.

New Image has to do with Disk Utility's function to create a specific
copy of some file, or folder, or entire drive and putting that on
another volume or drive or CD or DVD.  Mounting a drive means that
you can see a drive or volume.  In a working computer, that simply
means that the hard drive works, the operating system works, and that
you are accessing the drive's contents.  For a flash drive or CD/DVD,
it means you can see its icon and the computer can work with its
contents.  Unmount means that you are quitting your access to a
particular drive or volume.  For your main, internal drive, that is
automatic when you shut down.  For flash drives, CD/DVDs, external
hard drives, unmounting means that you are dragging the icon to the
Trash in the Dock.  In OS X, the Trash icon morphs into an Eject icon
in the process.  When unmounting flash drives, you must ensure that
you have closed all files and quit any applications on it, at the risk
of permanent damage to the contents.

The book by David Pogue, Mac OS X Tiger Edition The Missing Manual
would be an excellent investment.  You can also borrow excellent books
for your stage in this game from the public library.

Hope you do well with your Mac.

Al Poulin
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Re: thumb drives (jump drives)

2009-02-06 Thread Al Poulin

On Feb 5, 7:53 pm,  michaelangelosm...@scicable.com wrote:
 Yes the problem is trying to use it on my iMac with 9.2.2 (the package says 
 it runs on 9.1 and higher so there isn't suppose to be a problem, but alas, 
 there is.

Try reformatting it to HFS+ (Mac OS Extended).  Enter initialize
drive in Finder Help and use the instructions for Initializing a
hard disk, cartridge, or optical disk.

Al Poulin
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Re: Safari Panic

2009-02-06 Thread Simon Royal

Tim

I started in normal mode and got this bizarre message.

Simon

-- If you started up in verbose mode, I think that you get a similarly
verbose kernel panic message.

Tim





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Re: thumb drives (jump drives)

2009-02-06 Thread Charles Davis


On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:29 PM, ./aal wrote:


 On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Al Poulin alpou...@cox.net wrote:

 On Feb 5, 7:53 pm,  michaelangelosm...@scicable.com wrote:
 Yes the problem is trying to use it on my iMac with 9.2.2 (the  
 package says it runs on 9.1 and higher so there isn't suppose to  
 be a problem, but alas, there is.

 Try reformatting it to HFS+ (Mac OS Extended).  Enter initialize
 drive in Finder Help and use the instructions for Initializing a
 hard disk, cartridge, or optical disk.

 Al Poulin
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 dont format flash with a journaling filesystem

 it will shorten the life of the flash,

HFS+ is NOT the Journald File System!

Chuck D.

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Re: thumb drives (jump drives)

2009-02-06 Thread Simon Royal

Hi

I have an Iomega 128MB Mini USB drive which I have had for about 10 years, 
it is still going strong, it has outlived many other USB drives.

Since the move to OSX (back in 10.1) it has been formatted to HFS+ and it 
is used every day.

Don't see how HFS+ can shorten the life of a drive.

Simon

--- 

 dont format flash with a journaling filesystem


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Re: thumb drives (jump drives)

2009-02-06 Thread Charles Davis


On Feb 6, 2009, at 5:45 PM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Hi

 I have an Iomega 128MB Mini USB drive which I have had for about 10  
 years,
 it is still going strong, it has outlived many other USB drives.

 Since the move to OSX (back in 10.1) it has been formatted to HFS+  
 and it
 is used every day.

 Don't see how HFS+ can shorten the life of a drive.

 Simon

 ---

 dont format flash with a journaling filesystem


Repeated Re-rites of data as the 'journaling' routines complete Disk  
Access.

Chuck D.

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