Re: Cooling issues with my iMac G3 blueberry

2009-09-28 Thread Simon Royal

Hi.

I had one maxxed on RAM, large hard drive, dvd drive fitted and  
running Tiger and the thing used to smell it got that hot. A burning  
plastic smell. It was a 400Mhz slot loading model.

You have to remember it is only a G3 and most apps will stress out the  
processor and other internal components. Adding a fan sounds like a  
cool idea (no pun intended) if it was done neatly.

Simon

On 28 Sep 2009, at 18:29, Elliott Price wrote:


 Unless it's getting really, really hot, enough to crash your system, I
 would say it's not that much of a problem. Since they don't have a fan
 and cool by letting the heat rise up and out of the vent around the
 handle, if that area is hot it means the computer's insides aren't as
 hot. It's the same kind of thing as the compact macs. If it is a
 problem, your solution sounds like a viable one. (Although the thought
 of cutting up an iMac is disturbing to me...) I wonder how the
 structural integrity would be without the Blueberry top case? That
 would let more heat escape (And also be a potential shock hazard...)
 Anyways, hope that was helpful... :)


   -Elliott Price
 Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
 Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
 Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites

 On Sep 27, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Christian Wacker wrote:


 So i've been bugging you for weeks about my new blueberry iMac
 and...
 the bugger overheats after a few hours of use...
 I'm tempted to slice out the handle and replace it with a massive  
 blue
 LED fan, or 2 smaller blue LED fans on either side.
 I know this will ruin the origional ness of the iMac (bigger HDD,
 max ram, new CD-RW\DVD-ROM drive, upgraded speakers, who knows what
 else...) , but I don't care... it isn't like anyone really wanted  
 this
 anyways, and I don't plan on selling it anytime soon.
 I would power it off the same cord for the HDD, and it would be
 attached to an inline rheostat  to allow for adjustment of speed (or
 to allow me to turn it off)
 Any one have any better ideas for cooling it\placement of fans\ways  
 to
 keep it cool without butchering the case?

 Thanks for he help currently, and i've (hopefully) gotten the  
 wireless
 thing fixed (bad channel, cordless phones were interfering)
 -christian




 


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iMac 2.8 won't boot

2009-09-28 Thread Jonathan Rowson
I've just run into a problem, my iMac won't boot. It's a late 2008 2.8 GHz
Core 2 Duo. When I press the power button, I hear a 'whirr' like the HD or
SuperDrive is spinning up and it stops and makes a short click. It won't get
past that. I can't get into target mode, I can't hold the option key because
the keyboard isn't being recognized. I'm going to try another keyboard. Any
other suggestions before I contact Apple (the machine is about 6 months old)
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Installed Safari for Leopard, should have been for Tiger, can't uninstall

2009-09-28 Thread Dennis Faulkner

 I called AppleCare, but my warranty has ran out. I really wish Apple would 
give us a chance to renew the warranty after the 3 years is up. 
   I accidentally installed Safari for Leopard, and I meant to do Tiger.   I 
tried uninstalling the Leopard version by dragging to the trash and restarting, 
but when I download the correct update it will not load, claiming I don't have 
the necessary version.  Any info on how to do this? I spent a while on the 
Safari page on Apple's website, could not find the answer.

Dennis, San Diego
IMac with Intel processor



On Monday, September 28, 2009, at 05:41PM, Jonathan Rowson 
jonathanrow...@gmail.com wrote:


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Re: iMac 2.8 won't boot

2009-09-28 Thread Gary Fortman

Your hard drive died.
Take it to an apple store.
Mine did the same thing two months out of warranty.
I now have a 500 GB HD for $250 from a third party recommended by the  
Apple store.

Sent from my eyeFone

On Sep 28, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Jonathan Rowson  
jonathanrow...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've just run into a problem, my iMac won't boot. It's a late 2008  
 2.8 GHz Core 2 Duo. When I press the power button, I hear a 'whirr'  
 like the HD or SuperDrive is spinning up and it stops and makes a  
 short click. It won't get past that. I can't get into target mode, I  
 can't hold the option key because the keyboard isn't being  
 recognized. I'm going to try another keyboard. Any other suggestions  
 before I contact Apple (the machine is about 6 months old)

 -- 
 __
 Jonathan D. Rowson, M.D.

 

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Re: Installed Safari for Leopard, should have been for Tiger, can't uninstall

2009-09-28 Thread Dan

At 5:57 PM -0700 9/28/2009, Dennis Faulkner wrote:
I accidentally installed Safari for Leopard, and I meant to do Tiger.

How did you manage to do that?

I tried uninstalling the Leopard version by dragging to the trash 
and restarting, but when I download the correct update it will not 
load, claiming I don't have the necessary version.  Any info on how 
to do this?

The problem is that Safari installations, like almost all Apple 
installers, are destructive.  It's not just Safari.app that's updated 
- there's also the webkit framework and a bunch of other pieces. 
Your mission is to fool the installer into thinking there's an old 
webkit present...

The instructions here look like about what I would expect.  Worth a shot.
http://not-noticeably.net/entry/reverting-to-safari-3-from-safari-4-on-mac-os-x-105

If that doesn't work, then you'll need to do an archiveinstall of 
the OS, then let SU roll it up to 10.4.11 with all updates, including 
Safari 4.

And please don't forget to run backups.  Just in case

HTH,
- Dan.
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Re: Cooling issues with my iMac G3 blueberry

2009-09-28 Thread Dennis Faulkner

 I think there are free or cheap programs that will tell you what the internal 
temperatures are, I would look for these on cnet or one of the mac sites, and 
see what the internal temps actually are. If internal temps really are a 
problem, I would make sure the inside is relatively clean (not a big dust build 
up), then perhaps a small fan mounted near the exhaust would help pull the 
hot air out of the case further. Make sure this fan is nothing you would get 
cut on badly if you come into contact with it, and I would consult some of our 
mac experts (not me) on good fans that would efficiently do this. Seems like 
spending a few more bucks on a good fan may be worth it, instead of a really 
cheap fan, but I am not an expert by any means. 

Dennis



On Monday, September 28, 2009, at 10:29AM, Elliott Price 
callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote:

Unless it's getting really, really hot, enough to crash your system, I  
would say it's not that much of a problem. Since they don't have a fan  
and cool by letting the heat rise up and out of the vent around the  
handle, if that area is hot it means the computer's insides aren't as  
hot. It's the same kind of thing as the compact macs. If it is a  
problem, your solution sounds like a viable one. (Although the thought  
of cutting up an iMac is disturbing to me...) I wonder how the  
structural integrity would be without the Blueberry top case? That  
would let more heat escape (And also be a potential shock hazard...)  
Anyways, hope that was helpful... :)


   -Elliott Price
Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites

On Sep 27, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Christian Wacker wrote:


 So i've been bugging you for weeks about my new blueberry iMac  
 and...
 the bugger overheats after a few hours of use...
 I'm tempted to slice out the handle and replace it with a massive blue
 LED fan, or 2 smaller blue LED fans on either side.
 I know this will ruin the origional ness of the iMac (bigger HDD,
 max ram, new CD-RW\DVD-ROM drive, upgraded speakers, who knows what
 else...) , but I don't care... it isn't like anyone really wanted this
 anyways, and I don't plan on selling it anytime soon.
 I would power it off the same cord for the HDD, and it would be
 attached to an inline rheostat  to allow for adjustment of speed (or
 to allow me to turn it off)
 Any one have any better ideas for cooling it\placement of fans\ways to
 keep it cool without butchering the case?

 Thanks for he help currently, and i've (hopefully) gotten the wireless
 thing fixed (bad channel, cordless phones were interfering)
 -christian

 






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Re: Cooling issues with my iMac G3 blueberry

2009-09-28 Thread Christian Wacker

I do have some massive cooling issues. It usually crashes about 2
hours into anything. (not that I use it for much, but it has crashed
when transferring files 8 times, to the point where I have to copy 1gb
at a time, and pray that it doesn't overheat)
Upon investigating the structural integrety of this device, and
deciding that the handle looks wayyy too shaky to use in daily use,
and the lower support\protector thingy that is under the handle (the
plastic thinger that has no apparant use except to keep your hands out
of the CRT) can be removed without any damage to the system (screws)
and a fan can be dropped in (at a lower position, with a fan guard,
allowing me to use the handle at a later date if intended.)
Would it be best to run it off the HDD's power jack, or would that be
data suicide? would a 120mm fan be big enough to be quiet, yet
functional?
thanks
-Christian

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Dennis Faulkner appleimacd...@mac.com wrote:

  I think there are free or cheap programs that will tell you what the 
 internal temperatures are, I would look for these on cnet or one of the mac 
 sites, and see what the internal temps actually are. If internal temps really 
 are a problem, I would make sure the inside is relatively clean (not a big 
 dust build up), then perhaps a small fan mounted near the exhaust would help 
 pull the hot air out of the case further. Make sure this fan is nothing you 
 would get cut on badly if you come into contact with it, and I would consult 
 some of our mac experts (not me) on good fans that would efficiently do this. 
 Seems like spending a few more bucks on a good fan may be worth it, instead 
 of a really cheap fan, but I am not an expert by any means.

 Dennis



 On Monday, September 28, 2009, at 10:29AM, Elliott Price 
 callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote:

Unless it's getting really, really hot, enough to crash your system, I
would say it's not that much of a problem. Since they don't have a fan
and cool by letting the heat rise up and out of the vent around the
handle, if that area is hot it means the computer's insides aren't as
hot. It's the same kind of thing as the compact macs. If it is a
problem, your solution sounds like a viable one. (Although the thought
of cutting up an iMac is disturbing to me...) I wonder how the
structural integrity would be without the Blueberry top case? That
would let more heat escape (And also be a potential shock hazard...)
Anyways, hope that was helpful... :)


       -Elliott Price
Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites

On Sep 27, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Christian Wacker wrote:


 So i've been bugging you for weeks about my new blueberry iMac
 and...
 the bugger overheats after a few hours of use...
 I'm tempted to slice out the handle and replace it with a massive blue
 LED fan, or 2 smaller blue LED fans on either side.
 I know this will ruin the origional ness of the iMac (bigger HDD,
 max ram, new CD-RW\DVD-ROM drive, upgraded speakers, who knows what
 else...) , but I don't care... it isn't like anyone really wanted this
 anyways, and I don't plan on selling it anytime soon.
 I would power it off the same cord for the HDD, and it would be
 attached to an inline rheostat  to allow for adjustment of speed (or
 to allow me to turn it off)
 Any one have any better ideas for cooling it\placement of fans\ways to
 keep it cool without butchering the case?

 Thanks for he help currently, and i've (hopefully) gotten the wireless
 thing fixed (bad channel, cordless phones were interfering)
 -christian

 






 


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