OS X on iMac G3 (Re: Several G3 iMac DV 400 MHz questions)

2010-09-12 Thread Joshua Juran

On Sep 8, 2010, at 3:01 AM, Walter Sheluk wrote:


Excuse me for dropping into this discussion.


In general, please start a new thread for a new question (e.g. by  
using New Message in Apple Mail) instead of replying.


I have a iMac G3 that has OS 9.2.2 installed by the guy that sold  
this blue bean.


It is my understanding that i can install OS X on top, right ?


OS X 10.3 Panther, sure.  Maybe 10.4 Tiger.  Definitely not 10.5  
Leopard or 10.6 Snow Leopard.


However, the said iMac G3's optical drive can only read CD's not  
DVD's. It  rudely spits out the DVD with no explanation. How rude is  
that?


It beats crashing.  Don't try plugging in a modern iPod.


And also the iMac G3 hard drive is only 10 GB.


Don't bother.  What kind of hardware you need depends of course on  
what you intend to do with it, but even so, what you have is really  
not suitable for running OS X in any scenario.



What now ?


Run OS 9 or get a newer machine?  For OS X, I suggest getting a Mac  
with at least an Intel processor.  Beyond this it would help to know  
what you're seeking to do with it.


Josh


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Re: Several G3 iMac DV 400 MHz questions

2010-09-12 Thread Elliott Price
Headless means the computer has no monitor. (Usually this is done with 
servers, and they're controlled through screen sharing.)

And that's not true; PPC Macs will not (officially) boot from USB devices. 
Later G4's and G5's can be made to if you go through a lot of hard steps 
setting up the USB drive, but I have never gotten that to work. Any Mac with 
USB 1.0 shouldn't start from USB because it's just too slow; it takes so long 
to boot, it just never comes up. (I know from experience! Tried to boot a G3 
iMac from a USB DVD drive, and it just sat at the grey Apple screen for hours.)

FireWire DVD burner, or Target Disk Mode are the best ways to get around the 
fact that they don't have DVD drives. (Or borrow a DVD drive from an iBook, 
Powerbook G4, etc. They're compatible with the slot-loaders AND the tray 
loaders. You just have to switch connector boards on the back)


-Elliott


 
 Any PPC that is not HEADLESS and has a keyboard attached will
 startup from any drive as long as it has a valid operating system
 installed.
 
 What does that mean? I've never heard that term in the 26 years I've had 
 computers.
 
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g4 i mac with the round pod at the bottom

2010-09-12 Thread malvin...@ymail.com
Dennis

not sure what you mean

have a swivel g4 i mac with the round pod at the bottom, I cant
connect my spare plasma screen and the swivel one has gone blank 2
days ago but the computer seems to be running ie fan on and can eject
disks etc

sincerely malvin

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old G4 imac black screen

2010-09-12 Thread malvin...@ymail.com
I have an old G4 i mac with lcd built in swivel screen

when I try to conect another screen through the video prt to another
flat screen it does not work

in the last 2 days the macs screen is black and the mac starts up but
balck screen

now I need the additional screen even more anybody know about this and
can help

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Document trouble.

2010-09-12 Thread Alexander Blok

 Hello,

A very strange text problem now haunts my machine, which even though 
others and me try applying logic to such remains a pain.
Here's my problem, I have several pdfs that my former publisher supplied 
to me after my system crashed and I am trying to put the text in word 
format so that I can edit the manuscripts. However,  no matter what I 
and others try we can't get word to function in the way that the 
manuscripts can be edited.
I have both adobe acrobat pro and microsoft office work with but nothing 
works in regards being able to edit the converted text document from pdf 
to doc.

Anyone know what the eff?

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Re: Several G3 iMac DV 400 MHz questions

2010-09-12 Thread Joshua Juran

On Sep 11, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote:


On 11/09/10 02:12PDT, gifutiger wrote:


Any PPC that is not HEADLESS and has a keyboard attached will
startup from any drive as long as it has a valid operating system
installed.


What does that mean? I've never heard that term in the 26 years I've  
had computers.


'Headless' means not having a display.

Josh


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Re: Several G3 iMac DV 400 MHz questions

2010-09-12 Thread Midnight rider
You stand corrected. The later series of G3 iMacs (Summer 2001 and later)
have a VGA port on the back side that have the ability of mirroring the
display. In the event the main display ceases to function, the VGA port can
be used, and this will case a Headless iMac. Earlier G3 iMacs do not have
this ability and therefore cannot be fixed once this happens unless you
modify the connector wires, or unless you have a DB-15 to VGA adapter for
the bondi blue iMacs and imacs with a corresponding design. Basically any
one with the VGA port on the back or the tray loading G3 imacs can be
Headless.

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Re: Several G3 iMac DV 400 MHz questions

2010-09-12 Thread Tina K.

gifutiger wrote:

Sorry, an iMac can not be headless.


Given the design of the eMac, G3, G5, and Intel iMacs there is some 
truth to this statement, although you could take the MB out of one of 
the above mentioned machines and make what is technically a headless 
'iMac' out of it.


But the G4 iMac most certainly can me modded to run without a 'head' 
without removing the MB from the case, unfortunately MacTech bought 
MacMod.com and I can't find the how to.


The one caveat to either method is that you need to buy or build 
something to fool the MB into thinking that there is a monitor attached. 
Dr. Bott used to sell one, or they can be made fairly easily and much 
cheaper.


I did find a video of someone who turned their G4 iMac into a headless 
jukebox that he access' with his iPhone:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7XCRIza9II

Tina

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Re: How Goes SiteSucker?

2010-09-12 Thread Emma
I really like SiteSucker.  It is really fast...and you can set it to
just get what you want and go only so deep.  I am a teacher who has
iffy internet at school sometimes, so SSucker is a life saver.  I used
the dmg.  I use the same machine you do.
Might be my imagination but it downloads way faster than my normal ftp
connection does to sites I control!

Could  that be?
Emma

On Sep 8, 5:02 pm, Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote:
 In looking for tools to download websites including multiple pages, such as a 
 main page with links to the site's contents, it seems that SiteSucker for Mac 
 OS X is more in use than other tools.http://www.sitesucker.us/mac.html

 Any problems?  Cautions?  Alternatives for the job?  Better to download the 
 disk image or the ZIP Archive?

 Using OS X 10.6.4 on iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.

 Thanks,
 Al Poulin

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Re: old G4 imac black screen

2010-09-12 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Sep 11, 2010, at 4:55 AM, malvin...@ymail.com wrote:

 I have an old G4 i mac with lcd built in swivel screen
 
 when I try to conect another screen through the video prt to another
 flat screen it does not work



This is a strong indication that the video on the logic board has died.


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Re: Document trouble.

2010-09-12 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:34 AM, Alexander Blok wrote:

 I have both adobe acrobat pro and microsoft office work with but nothing 
 works in regards being able to edit the converted text document from pdf to 
 doc.
 Anyone know what the eff?

Check the security properties of the PDF's if they were somehow set to no 
copying or editing allowed you're stuck. Also, check to see what kind of PDF it 
is...if it's from scanned documents, it's entirely possible that what you have 
is just a big collection of images of the pages, not the text.

Word cannot edit PDF's, only Acrobat Pro; and in there you can't just click in 
it and start typing, you have to use the 'Text something something 
tool'...sorry, byut it's my office Mac that has adobe pro on it, and I cannot 
remember the exact wording of the menu item.

PDFPen alleges that it's an easy PDF editor:

http://smilesoftware.com/PDFpen/

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Re: Document trouble.

2010-09-12 Thread Robert MacLeay
On Sep 10, 6:34 am, Alexander Blok alien...@home.nl wrote:
 Here's my problem, I have several pdfs that my former publisher supplied
 to me after my system crashed and I am trying to put the text in word
 format so that I can edit the manuscripts. However,  no matter what I
 and others try we can't get word to function in the way that the
 manuscripts can be edited.
 I have both adobe acrobat pro and microsoft office work with but nothing
 works in regards being able to edit the converted text document from pdf
 to doc.
 Anyone know what the eff?

This should work, assuming that the PDFs are truly text, and not
rasterized images of text:
(1) Open the PDF using Preview, then Select All and Copy
(2) Paste into an empty Word document

If you run into copy protection problems and do not have a password,
older versions of Preview will often ignore this setting, and allow
you to copy.

Using Preview is better than using Reader or Acrobat because cut/
pasting from Acrobat will put every line into its own paragraph.

This method will preserve some, but not all, formatting. Of particular
concern is the fact that Word's styles are not saved when a document
is distilled into PDF, so it follows that they cannot be restored when
the PDF is reconverted.

If you are dealing with rasterized images, your only hope is using
Document  OCR Text Recognition  Recognize Text Using OCR... from
within Acrobat Pro.

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Re: OS X on iMac G3

2010-09-12 Thread Walter Sheluk

 On 10-09-09 7:58 PM, Joshua Juran wrote:



What now ?


Run OS 9 or get a newer machine?  For OS X, I suggest getting a Mac 
with at least an Intel processor.  Beyond this it would help to know 
what you're seeking to do with it.


Josh 



Actually i do have an iMac 2009 edition with a 3.06 GHz processor plus a 
plethera of 2007 and 2008 iMac's. OK, i admit it  i love mac's.



This iMac G3 is part of my legacy Mac collection. It is used to run 
legacy OS 9 midi/audio programs and midi/audio hardware that although 
were ported to OS X however those OS X midi/audio programs there were 
many features dropped and also getting the hardware to work in OS X is a 
challenge..


And then of course there are many midi/audio programs that never were 
ported to OS X and i still like to use them on occasion.


Unfortunately I can't get this iMac G3 to burn from/to a FireWired 
burner and for me that's the mystery i would like to solve or at least 
confirm that it is not doable.


I am in the process of getting a FireWire external hard drive and 
install Tiger or Leopard which as best as I understand it will allow me 
to  run the FireWired burner and thereby copy/burn the files from the 
iMac G3's hard drive.







Walter


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Re: g4 i mac with the round pod at the bottom

2010-09-12 Thread Dennis B. Swaney

On 11/09/10 08:35PDT, malvin...@ymail.com wrote:



have a swivel g4 i mac with the round pod at the bottom, I cant
connect my spare plasma screen and the swivel one has gone blank 2
days ago but the computer seems to be running ie fan on and can eject
disks etc



The G4 iMac has a mini-VGA port on the back. Just get an appropriate 
adapter(s) to connect it to an external monitor. Forexample:


http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Mini-VGA-VGA-Display-Adapter/dp/B68BSC


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Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is 
... oh, never mind.


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Re: OS X on iMac G3

2010-09-12 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Sep 12, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote:

 This iMac G3 is part of my legacy Mac collection. It is used to run legacy OS 
 9 midi/audio programs and midi/audio hardware that although were ported to OS 
 X however those OS X midi/audio programs there were many features dropped and 
 also getting the hardware to work in OS X is a challenge..
 
 And then of course there are many midi/audio programs that never were ported 
 to OS X and i still like to use them on occasion.
 
 Unfortunately I can't get this iMac G3 to burn from/to a FireWired burner and 
 for me that's the mystery i would like to solve or at least confirm that it 
 is not doable.



The range of supported FW and USB burners in OS 9 is vastly narrower than OS X. 
There's no such thing, IIRC as Patchburn for OS 9 and it wasn't until 10.4 and 
10.5 that OSX supported the main stream burning hardware.

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