Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Have you tried HTML5 YouTube? Apparently it works well even on the faster G4s. www.YouTube.com/html5 -Elliott On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Malcolm O'Brien malcolmo2...@hotmail.com wrote: Not the thing to watch Flash video on though. :P I just don't go to YouTube with that machine. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iPhoto
OS X doesn't come with any iLife apps. If you have the original disks, the one that says Application Install should restore them. -Elliott On Oct 17, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All... I recently did a clean reinstall of 10.6 on my Intel iMac. Now I can't iPhoto... it's not in the Applications directory and Spotlight has no hits for iPhoto. Am I missing something here? Does Snow Leopard not install iPhoto for some reason? Thanks for any adviced! Amanda -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade Help Required
Agreed. Leopard really takes advantage of the power those G5 towers have. It ran great on our dual 2.0Ghz G5. Runs smooth as butter :) -Elliott On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:00 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: No. Run Leopard. Its kernel is faster and there is more software available for it. - Dan. At 11:36 PM -0500 2/19/2010, Bill Chapman wrote: I just got a ppc G5 tower (Dual 2.0GHz ) today...you're saying Tiger is better on G5 than Leopard? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Help!
Well, my iMac (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo, 3Gb ram, 10.6) crashed last night, and when I went to boot it this morning, it starts to boot, gets to the grey Apple, then displays the NOT sign. I know this is a system problem, but nothing I've done has helped. Disk utility (Repair permissions, repair disk) and DiskWarrior made no difference. So my question now is, what will the Snow Leopard installer do?? If I was running 10.4 or 10.5, I'd just do an archive and install, with preserve user settings. But the 10.6 installer doesn't have those options... I really don't want to wipe all my info, is there some way to know what kind of install it's going to perform? It sure looks like it's going to install the system fresh... (I do have a Time capsule backup drive, so my info is safe... I hope...) Thanks everyone. -Elliott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 400 MHz iMac that has a loud buzzing noise
I would try zapping the PRAM; and reset it from the little button on the motherboard. Reseting everything to the default might fix your problem... If not, I don't think I'd run it too often or lean over the back a lot... Elliott On Nov 25, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Wolfman wrote: I have this G3 400 MHz iMac slot load computer. I paid a few bucks for it and I made the mistake of meeting the seller and not actually seeing the computer run but I was assured it was OK. I have had lots of iMacs but I have never heard one with such a loud buzzing noise that appears to be coming from the back of the machine. Bad CRT or power supply? I have no real what idea what is going on. It boots up fine and I can see all the files so I am pretty sure it is not the hard drive making this noise. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 400 MHz iMac that has a loud buzzing noise
That's a software problem, the slash means it can't find key directories. You might need to reinstall the system. Elliott On Nov 26, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Wolfman wrote: After listening more closely, it sounds like it my be the hard drive. Because when I shut down the iMac it souds like something spinning down. I reset the pram but when I tried to restart the computer, the Apple icon briefly shows and then a circle w/slash icon appears and stays that way and does not boot up. On Nov 25, 10:31 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Nov 25, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Wolfman wrote: I have this G3 400 MHz iMac slot load computer. I paid a few bucks for it and I made the mistake of meeting the seller and not actually seeing the computer run but I was assured it was OK. I have had lots of iMacs but I have never heard one with such a loud buzzing noise that appears to be coming from the back of the machine. Bad CRT or power supply? I have no real what idea what is going on. It boots up fine and I can see all the files so I am pretty sure it is not the hard drive making this noise. Any ideas Is it a 60hz hum? Might be a bad flyback transformer. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 400 MHz iMac that has a loud buzzing noise
Yeah, all my G3 iMacs have very loud HD's. I guess because they stuck them right up against the front panel. I had one that I got that had a bad HD, it would make a clicking noise, then it would beep. I was able to fix it by slamming it around a little to unstick whatever was stuck inside. What kind of sound is it making? (Clicking, whining, beeping, etc?) Elliott On Nov 26, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Christian Wacker wrote: It may have between 2 weeks and 4 years left. I have had many drives that start making funny noises, and then will 'die' suddenly, only to work again a month later. You should be fine, my 2 iMacs and a few of my older beige beasts all have a hdd that makes a noise that annoys the bejesus out of my parents. they all work like a dream still, nota problem with em yet. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Wolfman ecoma...@comcast.net wrote: On closer listening, I think the sound is the hard drive making this high pitched sound. When I shut down the iMac, the sound sounds like something spinning down. Could this the beginning of the end of the hard drive? I have never had a hard drive crash before. On Nov 25, 7:51 pm, Wolfman ecoma...@comcast.net wrote: I have this G3 400 MHz iMac slot load computer. I paid a few bucks for it and I made the mistake of meeting the seller and not actually seeing the computer run but I was assured it was OK. I have had lots of iMacs but I have never heard one with such a loud buzzing noise that appears to be coming from the back of the machine. Bad CRT or power supply? I have no real what idea what is going on. It boots up fine and I can see all the files so I am pretty sure it is not the hard drive making this noise. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: trouble coming?
Yup, sounds like trouble in the making. You probably have some corruption in your system. Here's a list of the basic system restore steps, one of these should help. Just go through the list until the problem clears up. - Restart (I assume you've tried this, but it never hurts to reiterate it) - Run a Disk, and Permissions check in Disk Utility. (Located under [your HD]ApplicationsUtilitiesDisk Utility) - Reset the Pram (Hold Option, Apple, R and P at startup) and NVram. (Hold Option, Apple, O and F at startup, then when prompted type reset-nvram) - Boot into single-user mode, and run a file system check (Hold Apple and S at startup, when prompted, type, fsck -f) And wait a while, because sometimes it seems like it gets stuck, but it's still working on it. If it comes back and says No files were modified, then there wasn't anything that it found wrong, or couldn't fix. In that case, try going further: - Create a new user, see if the problems persist in the new account. - Buy 10.4 install disks on eBay, and perform an archive and install, preserving user data. - Archive and install without preserving users, then copy your data back manually. (Skipping the user Library, as at this point this is probably what's corrupted) - Back up your data, reformat your hard drive, and reinstall 10.4 fresh. You probably won't have to go through this whole list, but it depends on how deeply your system's problems are. If you have any questions, or get stuck, feel free to ask, one of us here on the iMacs list can help :) Let us know how it goes, and if you're able to fix the problem. -Elliott On Aug 30, 2009, at 11:10 AM, michaelangelo wrote: I have an imac Flowerpower bought used with OS 10.4.11 (no OS disks). Has worked great. About two weeks ago a couple of odd things started to happen: (1) Outlines of boxes started to appear and disappear on the screen, kind of like a ghost outline of something that was on the screen that had just appeared; and (2) Under the Apple menu, Force Quit, Restart, Shutdown, and Log Out Apple User all appear in the pop-up menu screen TWICE! Obvious something is going on here. Anyone know what, and what is likely going to happen? Drat! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 600MHz iMac, dead?
Probably bad power supply or motherboard. -Elliott On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Fran wrote: I wrote in about a week ago for this same computer... symptoms are: computer does not start no chime no light no HD noise The only sound is when you plug in the computer and push the on/off button one can hear a small' bump' of power then nothing. This computer was working fine for just over a week after I bought it. (private party,not eBay or retail) No screen distortions, no color problem, no internet problems, no freezing, no glitches. Any speculations? TIA, Fran --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iMac upgrades
1. 10.4 runs surprisingly well on older Macs, but I would suggest 10.2 if you want to run OSX. That was Apple's first really stable X. It really all depends on what you want to do on it. If you want to have the features of later OSX's, then you might go with that. If you still just want to run all the games that came with it, I would say that 9.2.2 is the best classic OS, since it was the latest version. 2. Yes, you can just copy them over. Unlike Windows, Mac Apps are completely independent of the OS. (For the most part, there are exceptions, and there might be some plugins that you'd need to copy, too.) 3. I'm not sure about that, I believe you only have to install OSX on the first 8Gb of the HD on the old beige G3's, and the Bondi. Perhaps someone else would know for sure. 4. That's a problem... You could get a DVD drive for it, but it would probably be a slot-loading. That's how I got OSX onto my Bondi, but I just put back the tray-loader after I installed it. They did release 10.4 on CD's, you might be able to find them on eBay. If you decide to go with 10.2, that was only released on CD, so you're good to go. -Elliott On Aug 25, 2009, at 5:01 PM, SLiCk wrote: Hi fellow mac enthusiasts! I recently purchesed a tangerine iMac G3 233mhz at a garage sale for $10. Seemed like a good deal even though there was no peripherals or CD's. The machine boots perfect and it's loaded with lots of kids programs and runs pretty fast considering. I just added 256MB RAM PC100 (2X128) that I got from eBay for $10. The OS is 8.6. I have a 40GB IDE drive I'm going to install a into the machine also. That's all the hardware upgrades I intend to perform. $20 investment so far for a good running mac is pretty cheap, lol. So...a few questions if anyone can help... 1 - What is the best OS I should upgrade to and still keep the machine running good? I've heard the OSX might slow it down alot. I have no upgraded software (yet) btw. 2 - Can I keep the games that are currently installed on the hard drive and xfer them to the new drive? 3 - I read that I need to partition the new drive to 7GB to run OSX on the primary partition. Can I do that when I install the new OS? 4 - The machine only has a CD drive (tray loading). I'm guessing OSX comes on a DVD? If so, how can I see the drive to install the new OS? Thnx ya'all Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another G3 Imac Question
On PPC computers, you can't boot from a USB drive. Since it doesn't have FireWire, I don't think you can boot from an external drive. You can boot from an internal DVD drive, though, and the connector is the same standard one that's used on most other compact drives in laptops and such. (Macs and PC's) -Elliott On Aug 22, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Mario Frasca wrote: Jasiu wrote: I have a 233MHZ G3 Imac running OS 9.2. I wanted to put OS X on it but my OS X disc is a DVD. I don't think this Imac will acknowledge a new DVD player. Can I get OS X on CD? Can I download it from the internet somewhere? and you are sure you don't want to run Debian? http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install how much RAM have you got? an external DVD player should work (it does on my G3). never booted from it though. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 Slot Loading Imac
Wow that seems like quite the dilemma... You can get it apart fairly easy, you just have to pop out the video port cover (whether it has video or not, just slip a flathead screwdriver into the slot of the panel near the back) then undo two screws under that panel, and two near the sockets of the folding bar. The bottom part should lift off, giving you access to the metal shield. There are I believe, about 6 screws holding this down, two near the front, around the HD and optical drive, two near the middle, and two at the back. Be careful with these, they are VERY easy to drop down inside the computer. The best way to take these out is with a slightly magnetized screwdriver. Next, unplug the HD and CD drive cables, then unscrew the 4 screws holding down the bracket that has the HD and CD drive in it. Next, unscrew the screws in the sides, that hold the HD and CD in the bracket. You now have the HD and CD drive out. I had this problem once with an iBook; the one sure way to get the CD out is to pop the top off the CD drive itself. Just get a small screwdriver, and unscrew the screws in the top of the drive. Just look at how it's put together, since every CD drive is different. It may have clips holding it down on one side, or something like that. Once you have the top off, just take the CD off the spindle. There you go. Also, you can install OSX with the HD in another Mac, then put it back in the iMac. Just make sure it's a compatible system; most slot- loading iMacs will run anything from OS 9.1 to 10.4. However there were a couple that could only run 10.3. I've seen that happen before with older macs that have OS9 and OSX on the same HD, sometimes it can be a pain to start in OS9 because it restarts and boots into OSX. Another possibility, is to insert a system disk (If you get the CD drive working, or you could use an external FireWire device) and reset the password. I think (A very big think) you don't have to have the matching OS disk to do this, for example, if it's running 10.2 you can reset the password with a 10.4 disk. If you have the matching system disk, though, try that first. Anyways, hope this was helpful, hope you get it working! -Elliott On Aug 22, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Jasiu wrote: Ok, I tried the paper clip thingy without success. I went into open firmware and typed eject cd but it said it couldn't do it. I tried holding down the mouse button and rebooting, also without success. Another strange thing is when you start up the little OS9 happy mac shows up and then it eventually goes into OS X. Once it goes to OS X it asks me for a password which I don't know. So it never goes any further. How hard are these computers to get apart? Can I replace this hard drive with another? But then I can't load another OS because the CD/DVD won't eject what is in it. Catch 22. Any ideas?? On Aug 20, 11:25 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Aug 19, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Cyrus Griffin wrote: This doesn't work with slot-loading iMacs. Or with any slot-loading macs, for that matter... Yes it does. It's hard to find but all slot-loaders have a manual eject on the far right hand lower side of the drive slot. You may have to look for it by shining a flashlight at the slot and pressing down the 'fur'. I've gotten disks out of defunct slotloaders in Powerbooks this way. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another G3 Imac Question
It should read DVD's, at one point I put a slot-loading DVD drive in it from my 2004 iBook; it looked strange, but it worked fine, I'm pretty sure this is how I installed 10.4 onto it. (From the DVD) (Using Xpost Facto, that is) 10.0 through 10.2 were only released on CD, 10.3 was released on both, and 10.4 had a special-order CD set, however you might have a hard time finding one. If you do download it from the internet, it would probably be illegal... I would suggest looking for a CD set on eBay, or even the LEM swap list. If you're trying to run 10.3, it should be easy to find a CD set, but I really have no idea how rare the 10.4 CD sets were. If you are trying to install 10.4, I would probably recommend trying to find a DVD drive for it. -Elliott On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:22 AM, Jasiu wrote: I have a 233MHZ G3 Imac running OS 9.2. I wanted to put OS X on it but my OS X disc is a DVD. I don't think this Imac will acknowledge a new DVD player. Can I get OS X on CD? Can I download it from the internet somewhere? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RAM
I would look around online, or even the LEM swap, probably get better results there for buying old RAM at good prices. -Elliott On Aug 21, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Sam Stone wrote: OK lets do this for the I zillionth time. I need to prove a little point to a NON-BELIEVER and so I shall call on the CULT OF THE IMAC (that would be US) to asist. Said non-Believer and (shudder) PC user needs to be shown that YES! indeed you can take an old 333 or thereabouts and cast the Imac Spell to create a FULLY FUNCTIONAL machine that works exceptionally well for Seniors or Whatever. AND it can be accomplished for next to nothing (a favorite with Seniors). I have several of these machines around BUT I need enough RAM to do the OSX thing. I know how to do the rest. Or if you even happen to have an older model around all ready to go..might consider that as well. I have lots of stuff to trade including PC IBM Laptop parts (I do have some weak moments). Any and all help is appreciated. I travel between Owen Sound/Walkeron area to Toronto quite a bit. Thanks Mark P.S. Along with a million other things iI have 2 of those REALLY nice huge Monitors that came with the 333 Towers. I also have a fully functional Newton --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 Slot Loading Imac
This doesn't work with slot-loading iMacs. Or with any slot-loading macs, for that matter... Best thing to do is as Clark suggested and hold the mouse key at startup. Or, if you can boot it into the firmware, (hold down option as it boots, if you get boot device icons that's the firmware) then as soon as the cursor no longer indicates loading, press Apple+E on the keyboard, (or the eject key on newer keyboards) and the drive will eject the disk. (If it's not physically stuck). It depends on which model of iMac it is, I believe later model slot-loaders had the option firmware. -Elliott On Aug 19, 2009, at 6:47 PM, pangab...@aol.com wrote: Press the end of a paperclip gently into that little hole on the outside of the loading tray. Rob Bell --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Kernel panic on eMac
Kernel panics are usually caused by failing/incompatible hardware. I've had USB bluetooth dongles, bad RAM and bad PCI cards cause kernel panics. I would try unplugging everything non essential, including internals, and put in the minimum RAM to run OSX. Try a different keyboard/mouse, sometimes third party accessories can cause kernel panics, as can poorly built USB hubs. You might try re-installing Tiger. I think the OP was meaning kernel panic code? Never heard of that happening, usually kernel panics dim the screen, and show the power icon followed by text in several languages saying something along the lines of, you need to restart your computer... Are you sure what you're experiencing kernel panics? Hope you get it working, -Elliott PS. I'm curious where you got a deal that good? On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Dan wrote: At 3:55 PM -0700 8/18/2009, goodapple wrote: I bought an eMac 1gHz, 512 ram, super drive, wireless card, osX Tiger retail install disk, original disks and 80 gig hd. It had freezing at start up - now after removing the airport card, installing different memory - I have installed 10.2.x (the last revision). It will run fine and then without any discernible pattern - kernel panic. I'm not sure of the sequence here. When did the panics start? Are you saying it never ran? Or they started after you were in there pulling hardware, or ? And how do you know the memory is any good? The kp code is the same many had trouble with power books and airport cards. the kp code. Not sure what that is. So = any ideas from you all? Put in a new battery. Put in known good memory. Generate fresh system and panic logs. Zip 'em up and email 'em to me. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 ram query
Hmm... As in, size-wise, or performance-wise? I would guess that if it says it's compatible with the G4 iMac, it will be. Another place to check would be Other world computing, www.macsales.com. You can browse upgrade parts by computer, and they generally have pretty good deals. That way you could be sure it'll work with your iMac. -Elliott (Formerly Cyrus) On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:13 PM, williamd wrote: Hello everyone! I have a note written to self, doubtless in the wee hours, that ram for my G4 imac usb 2.0 machine needs to be low profile in order to fit in the user accessible slot. That doesn't seem to be mentioned with the ram sticks i see on ebay for this machine. Can anyone confirm or deny this idea? Many thanks! bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Networking issues with G4 imac
Well I'm not sure why this would be slowing down you connection. But wireless is always slower then ethernet. -Elliott On Jul 29, 2009, at 2:00 PM, williamd wrote: I am suddenly and unexpectedly needing some sort of network solution and know very little about this subject. The situation is this... for some time i have had a direct ethernet connection between my cable modem and G4 imac. Recently my roommate got a pc laptop and wanted to go wireless. We purchased a Belkin N router. He uses his g card wirelessly and is very pleased. I am currently connected via ethernet as before, except now with router in the middle. I am noticing a considerable drop in performance going via the router as opposed to directly to the cable modem; enough so that when he is not home i connect the modem directly, only using the router when necessary. This slower performance (taking longer to load web pages, and slower download speeds) occurs whether or not he is connected. My first question is whether this slowdown is to be expected when wired through the router as opposed to directly to the modem? If not, any suggestions on what i can do to increase performance? Would i have better speed going wireless myself? And if so, should i go for the Airport Extreme card, or would a third-party dongle be faster? If the latter, is there one which uses the ethernet port rather than taking up a usb slot? Many thinks for any suggestions! bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bondi Blue HELP
To be honest, there's not a whole lot of performance difference between 233Mhz and 333Mhz... I would suggest maxing out the RAM for the most performance boost. -Elliott On Jul 29, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Jasiu wrote: I tried looking on Ebay but to no avail. Anyone have any ideas?? On Jul 29, 2:00 pm, Jasiu johnschiavone...@gmail.com wrote: Can I replace the MB on the 233MHS tray loading Imac with a faster one? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Slot loading G3 CUDA?
Glad you were able to find one... Hope you can fix your Mac. :) -Elliott On Jul 29, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Carrie wrote: Nevermind, I found a service manual. Also, I guess they went from calling it CUDA to PMU...go figure... On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Carrie freakycarseatl...@gmail.com wrote: Where is the CUDA on a slot loading G3? How do I get to it? I have a nice 500MHz G3 that has quit starting. Same symptoms my tray loaders had when they needed a new battery and the CUDA reset. I have changed the battery in it but still dead. I can't seem to see much of anything in the little door that opens to add an airport card and change the battery. It was tricky enough changing the battery. I have a service manual for tray loaders but not slot loaders. -- Carrie www.flowerkraut.com -- Carrie www.flowerkraut.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bondi Blue Imac Upgrades
Well, remember the Bondi has a lower RAM limit, probably 256, but you might check on your model number to see if it's a Rev.A or Rev. B. But yes, you'll want to update the firmware, otherwise you'll totally destroy it trying to install OSX. We accidentally did this to a Blueberry slot-loader. You can get the firmware update from the Mactracker app. (Or you can get it from Apple I think) -Elliott On Jul 27, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Mike Audia wrote: Ugrade the ram, went from 64 to 512 with some old 256mb dimms. Then you'll probably have to update the firmware then you can add OSX if you want. I did it with a ruby red slot loader and no Mac experience at all. The Apple support site is a great place to start Michael Audia www.TechToolSupply.com 877-208-6657 Ext. 112 866-311-6824 FAX Sent from my iPhone On Jul 27, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Jasiu johnschiavone...@gmail.com wrote: My father recently gave me a G3 Bondi Blue Imac 233 Mhz Processor with 96 MB memory. What can I do to upgrade this machine? How difficult is it to do? Do they still make accelerators for this? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Issue on Bondi Blue iMac G3
I believe it's the first 8Gb, and only for Mac OSX. OS9 (which is what it's running, right?) can still be anywhere on the disk. How did you get the OS on the 20Gb disk? If you copied it from the old 4Gb disk, you might try just reinstalling it from scratch. I installed a 10Gb disk in a Bondi iMac with no difficulty, and it's running 9.2.2 and 10.4.11 flawlessly. You might just try re-installing OS9, and maybe updating to 9.1 or 9.2 if you can, as they are more stable then 9.0. Good luck. -Elliott On Jul 26, 2009, at 4:47 AM, Gerald Uhlan wrote: Did you partition the new drive? The OS MUST reside entirely within the first 4 or 6 GB (I forget which) of physical disc space. On 7/25/09 8:12 PM, Aaron Parker arp.par...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I got a steal on an original Bondi Blue iMac G3 last week for $20 and have been loving playing around with OS 9. It's been working perfectly fine for the last week or so--no issues whatsoever. The 4GB hard drive was a little tight though, so I opted to throw an extra 20GB drive in there this afternoon that I had lying around. The install was a piece of cake. Unfortunately, I'm now having some very odd video issues. After reassembling the computer, it fires up fine the first time. I get the startup tone, normal video, and the computer boots up just fine (I even got OS9 put back on after this initial boot). Unfortunately, that's where the problems start. As soon as you shut the machine down and restart, you then lose video until you manually reset the PRAM and press the CUDA reset button on the mainboard. I've reproduced this exact scenario at least 3 times now and it works the same way every time--reset the PRAM, reset the CUDA, machine powers on normally, restart--no video. I'm still getting the startup sound and it sounds as if the computer is booting up normally even when I don't get video (lots of HD activity), it's just that I'm getting a completely blank screen (with an amber light). Any ideas? Would a bad PRAM battery cause such issues? The likelihood that it would just so happen to manifest itself after my upgrade is suspect to me though. Thanks! Aaron --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: AirPort card for imac G4?
There's basically the Apple Airport card (which is a/b), the AirPort Extreme (which is b/g) and their current micro Airport cards that are not as user-installable. If you find an Airport Extreme card, it's the same in their laptops, iMacs, and desktops from that time. (For example, I could put my Airport card from my G4 iBook into our G5 tower, it's the same card) So basically, here's the info on the three Apple Airport cards there are: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirPort#AirPort_802.11b_Card Good luck. :) -Elliott On Jul 24, 2009, at 11:51 PM, williamd wrote: I would like to add an airport card to my G4 imac, 1.0ghz, 15-inch, usb 2.0 model. As i understand it i need an Airport Express card, but is there more than one of these? I see many listings for use on Mac laptops- would this be the same card? Thanks for any info! bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poorly eMac Booting From PowerBook
From another angle, I have usually been able to repair an HD that keeps having the same problem pop up in Disk Utility with Disk Warrior. If you have that, Po-en, you might try running it on the disk. A while back you also asked if you could boot on your PowerBook... I think so, but I'm not sure. Just connect them both with FireWire, put the PowerBook in target disk mode, then hold Option while starting up the eMac, and you should get a list of bootable drives. If it appears, just click on it. If not... then maybe it doesn't work. It should, though, since you can boot from an external FireWire drive. Hope that helps! Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 21, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Brian Troisi wrote: On Mar 21, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Dan wrote: At 9:17 AM -0400 3/21/2009, Brian Troisi wrote: On Mar 21, 2009, at 8:42 AM, John Hanson wrote: I am a little hesitant to say it's the capacitors. When I had the capacitors fail on my eMac 1.25ghz, the computer would simply freeze up. No kernel panics or anything like that, it just locked up for no reason. I hope you get your eMac working soon, they were very good machines that were quite capable. My friend found a 1.25 Ghz eMac in great condition! After a couple of weeks, the freezings would get worse. He thought it was because I installed Leopard on it, but when he looked inside the machine, he saw the bulging and leaking capacitors. Sounds like Simon should open the eMac and take a look - a quick check for this issue? I read in some forum that you can see the capacitors via the RAM slot. I'm not sure though. My friend found out because he gutted the machine and was going to sell the working parts. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Noise
Alternatively, you can uncheck the box that says, Copy Photos to the iPhoto library in the Advanced pane. This has worked well for me. -Cyrus On Mar 13, 2009, at 9:13 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 13, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Kees Timmers wrote: Thanks. Another question: The best way to do this is to start a new message thread. All my photo's are on a external disk that is connected to my network. I want to keep them there. When I drag them into iPhoto the photo's are copied to my iMac harddisk. Is there a way to keep them on the e-disk and use the iPhoto functionality as well? In iPhoto's prefs you can designate where your photo library is; however, iPhoto will STILL suck all your photos into it's directory structure. Like iTunes, iPhoto is designed to manage your photos. Let it. You will waste time, effort and disk space fighting it. Your best solution is to move your iPhoto library to the external disk, import your photos and delete or archive the existing photos on the external disk. Here's how to move the library: http://tinyurl.com/dao4cj -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time to upgrade; need guidance
I would suggest one of the old-style white intel Core 2 Duo iMacs. You can get them for about the same price as a new Mac Mini on eBay, and with 3Gb of RAM they are still very decent computers. (Plus I really dislike Apple's new mirror phase, where they think you would rather stare at bright lights behind you then the actual display. But if you don't care, you could get the first-generation of those for probably just a little more) -Cyrus On Mar 11, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Po-en Tsai wrote: intel :p apple just released a new line of mac's. On 3/12/09, owen owenstr...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, I haven't paid much attention to new releases since '04, so I'm looking for advice on where the sweet spot is in flat panel iMacs. I could go with new, but I've had good luck with refurbs and with used machines, and the budget it tight so cheaper would be very welcome. For background - my wife's Tangerine conked out in '04, so I got her a refurb G4 (1.25ghz 20) just as the G5s were being announced (I liked the price, and the fact that it could still boot OS 9). I fixed the tray-load 266 and used it to replace my 7200/90 until I found a Flower Power on eBay. Wifey fell in love at first sight with the 500mhz slot- loader, and gave me her G4. I wish I could say I planned it that way but really I am just lucky. So now it's '09, and I can deal with the lack of DVD support, but the 15 screen and 500mhz CPU just aren't cutting it anymore (even with 1gb RAM installed). Also we've been running 10.3 and it feels like time to upgrade that too (TurboTax online doesn't seem to be working right, I want an upgraded iPhoto, and everytime I boot iTunes it gives me an irritating upgrade message that's not even compatible with 10.3) - and I'd prefer not to have to support multiple operating systems at home. I was hoping Dan would have posted a Guide to flat panel iMacs (hint), but between the individual profiles and the value equation articles it's easy enough to pick up the specs. That doesn't tell me a lot about the relative merits and demerits though. We're also looking at laptops, but my Duo 250 and her eMate really never got used as much as our iMacs. So what does everyone think? Should I pick up a second G4, upgrade to G5, Or make the jump to Intel? Thanks! Owen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---