Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
On Oct 12, 3:08 am, ValterV wrote: > Since several of you praised their 24" iMacs, and the 21,5" screen is > too vertically-limited for my need (it's vertically shorter than my > 21" CRT monitor), I've decided the 24" iMac is the perfect choice to > me. > > Any further advice is welcome. My 24" iMac is the last model, Display Port, March 2009. No problems with daily home use for hours at a time. I second the earlier comment about looking at lowendmac.com . Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
I also love the 24" Aluminum intel's, I still use a 2007 2.8 extreme with ML as my main machine. No problems whatsoever. - Brian On Oct 12, 2012, at 3:08 AM, ValterV wrote: > Thanks to everybody for your suggestions! > >> Some have pointed out my search terms were too generic. > I know, and I agree they were statistically inaccurate (to say the > least). That's why I thought to ask to you guys! :-) > >> Dennis advised to keep with Snow Leopard, and not going to Lion/M. Lion. > I agree. I'm (happily) with Tiger now, I (badly) disliked Lion U.I., > and I plan to stick to Snow Leopard for the foreseeable future on my > new iMac. > Besides, I currently own mostly PPC software, so I need Rosetta. > >> Bruce advised to go for Aluminum models, the White ones being too old >> and with limited memory > I agree. > > Since several of you praised their 24" iMacs, and the 21,5" screen is > too vertically-limited for my need (it's vertically shorter than my > 21" CRT monitor), I've decided the 24" iMac is the perfect choice to > me. > > Any further advice is welcome. > Thanks again, > Valter > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group > for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
Thanks to everybody for your suggestions! > Some have pointed out my search terms were too generic. I know, and I agree they were statistically inaccurate (to say the least). That's why I thought to ask to you guys! :-) > Dennis advised to keep with Snow Leopard, and not going to Lion/M. Lion. I agree. I'm (happily) with Tiger now, I (badly) disliked Lion U.I., and I plan to stick to Snow Leopard for the foreseeable future on my new iMac. Besides, I currently own mostly PPC software, so I need Rosetta. > Bruce advised to go for Aluminum models, the White ones being too old > and with limited memory I agree. Since several of you praised their 24" iMacs, and the 21,5" screen is too vertically-limited for my need (it's vertically shorter than my 21" CRT monitor), I've decided the 24" iMac is the perfect choice to me. Any further advice is welcome. Thanks again, Valter -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Christopher Satterfield < christopher1...@gmail.com> wrote: > I myself have never had any problems with school iMacs or anyone's really. > The only problem I have ever observed that can't be fixed from something in > a parts bin was one iMac that wouldn't burn DVDs unless it was laying on > it's back, weird but that did the trick. We ended up replacing the drive > with a firewire drive. The particular iMac is a 17" 2 GHz Core 2 Duo model, > and it's the one out of around 10 that came up with a problem at all. > > If I were going to say the most troublesome iMac I've ever seen, I would > say the iMac G5, killed by cheap (probably) Chinese caps. > > I had 2 major problems with my iMac G5 ALS: Bad Bluetooth/WiFi Module and it's socket on the logic board; both replaced under AppleCare (years ago) Dead power supply a couple of months ago; I ordered a new one and replaced the dead one. Not bad for a 7+ year-old machine. -- Sincerely, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:45 PM, ValterV wrote: > I just joined this group, because I'm pondering about getting an used Intel > iMac (replacing a PM G5 DP 2.7), and I need your expertise. :-) > > I am interested in the 24" models, but I did a little Googling and it seems > the 24" models were problematic: > - Googling "imac 24 problems" gives almost 32M results > - Typing "20" instead of "24", it gives 61M results > - With "21.5" it gives a little over 1M > - With "27", 14M. > > Does it mean the 24" iMacs were quite troublesome? > Basing on these figures, the 24" seems the worst model, besides the 20" model > (but the 20" could have been sold way more); and the 21.5" seems the less > troublesome (or the least sold, but It doesn't seem likely). > The 21.5" model would be my second choice, if the 24" isn't much realiable > (processor speed would always be more than my G5, so it's not an issue). > > Since I'm going to buy a relatively old machine, I would like to know in > advance if I'm getting into likely trouble. > I'm somehow good with hardware and troubleshooting, but opening the iMacs is > no piece of cake, so I try to avoid it as much as I can. > I heard several times about bad capacitors' fault in iMacs, but I don't know > if they happen in every iMac model or just in some. > > Any info about reliability would be welcome. As the owner of several iMacs over quite some years, I am amused by your methodology for determining problematic models. Apple has so far sold over 40 different Intel iMac models, including 8 with 24" screens. Your generic search results are hardly meaningful. My current daily-use desktop Mac is a 2009 24" iMac. The screen size is perfect for my needs. I have had no problems whatsoever with it. Just before its AppleCare coverage expired back in July, I took it to our local Apple Store for a thorough checkup/tuneup. They found nothing wrong with it. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:45 PM, ValterV wrote: > Hi all! > I just joined this group, because I'm pondering about getting an used Intel > iMac (replacing a PM G5 DP 2.7), and I need your expertise. :-) > > I am interested in the 24" models, but I did a little Googling and it seems > the 24" models were problematic: > - Googling "imac 24 problems" gives almost 32M results > - Typing "20" instead of "24", it gives 61M results > - With "21.5" it gives a little over 1M > - With "27", 14M. > > Does it mean the 24" iMacs were quite troublesome? > Basing on these figures, the 24" seems the worst model, besides the 20" model > (but the 20" could have been sold way more); and the 21.5" seems the less > troublesome (or the least sold, but It doesn't seem likely). > The 21.5" model would be my second choice, if the 24" isn't much realiable > (processor speed would always be more than my G5, so it's not an issue). > No, you have no sound basis in the data you offer for making those statements. If your aim is to determine hardware reliability the results you got are meaningless, since things like "I just got a new 24" iMac, and now I have a problem, my wife wants one too!" and "I had a problem installing Photoshop on my 24" iMac" would count. There is also the 'Squeaky Wheel' syndrome: Complaints beget 'Me Too!' postings and so complaints outnumber positives. It includes issues like problem with video drivers or system updates which do not relate at all to hardware reliability Finally we do not know how many of which size Apple's sold over the years...anecdotal evidence would indicate that more 24 and 27" models have been sold all told. > Since I'm going to buy a relatively old machine, I would like to know in > advance if I'm getting into likely trouble. > I'm somehow good with hardware and troubleshooting, but opening the iMacs is > no piece of cake, so I try to avoid it as much as I can. > I heard several times about bad capacitors' fault in iMacs, but I don't know > if they happen in every iMac model or just in some. The capacitor plague was confined entirely to G5 iMac models. In my experience, the Intel-based iMacs have been remarkably reliable, none of the numerous ones installed here have needed servicing, and the 24" one is by far the most popular, followed closely by the 27" model. Also, working on the newer aluminum intel iMacs (you want to avoid any white iMac models as they're obsolete now, with poor performance and low memory ceilings) isn't actually that hard, provided you get the right tool to remove the glass screen. (which is available at Home Depot, since it's just a suction-cup tool for handling panes of glass) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
At 10:45 PM -0700 10/09/2012, ValterV wrote: pondering about getting an used Intel iMac I am interested in the 24" models, but I did a little Googling and it seems the 24" models were problematic Your search terms are so generic I'm not surprised you got bazillions of results. Does it mean the 24" iMacs were quite troublesome? Go by model release/year, not screen size. The technology used in the screens has improved by leaps and bounds, to the point that screen sizes from differing years rarely have much in common. FWIW, I've run across quite a few late 2006 models with video problems. And anything before 2009 is about due for HD issues. Buy a set of suction cups! As with buying any used machine, try to get its history and avoid ashtrays. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
My G5 iMac is working fine, though I did have to replace the power supply a couple of months ago. That said, however, I was forced to move to an intel iMac (21.5") due to the requirements for the iPhone 5. If you do go to Intel, try to get one that runs Snow Leopard (Mac OS 10.6.x) if you can. Unless you have something that mandates it, stay away from Lion/Mountain Lion (Mac OS 10.7.x/10.8.x); I'm having lots of problems with Lion. -- Sincerely, Dennis On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Robert Esposito wrote: > Bad capacitors plagued the G5 iMacs. I have opened several of those and > the work is in replacing capacitors on the logicboard not opening it. > > My 24 inch iMac has been a reliable performer since day one. When it comes > time to,upgrade, I plan to keep it in my workshop and retire a G5 PowerMac. > > I recently refurbished a 27 inch iMac which I would have bought from its > owner but he wouldn't sell it. Except for a software issue which I resolved > for him, he never lost a day using his 27 inch. > > Best Wishes, > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 10, 2012, at 1:45 AM, ValterV wrote: > > Hi all! > I just joined this group, because I'm pondering about getting an used > Intel iMac (replacing a PM G5 DP 2.7), and I need your expertise. :-) > > I am interested in the 24" models, but I did a little Googling and it > seems the 24" models were problematic: > - Googling "imac 24 problems" gives almost 32M results > - Typing "20" instead of "24", it gives 61M results > - With "21.5" it gives a little over 1M > - With "27", 14M. > > Does it mean the 24" iMacs were quite troublesome? > Basing on these figures, the 24" seems the worst model, besides the 20" > model (but the 20" could have been sold way more); and the 21.5" seems the > less troublesome (or the least sold, but It doesn't seem likely). > The 21.5" model would be my second choice, if the 24" isn't much realiable > (processor speed would always be more than my G5, so it's not an issue). > > Since I'm going to buy a relatively old machine, I would like to know in > advance if I'm getting into likely trouble. > I'm somehow good with hardware and troubleshooting, but opening the iMacs > is no piece of cake, so I try to avoid it as much as I can. > I heard several times about bad capacitors' fault in iMacs, but I don't > know if they happen in every iMac model or just in some. > > Any info about reliability would be welcome. > Thanks in advance, > Valter > > > -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
Bad capacitors plagued the G5 iMacs. I have opened several of those and the work is in replacing capacitors on the logicboard not opening it. My 24 inch iMac has been a reliable performer since day one. When it comes time to,upgrade, I plan to keep it in my workshop and retire a G5 PowerMac. I recently refurbished a 27 inch iMac which I would have bought from its owner but he wouldn't sell it. Except for a software issue which I resolved for him, he never lost a day using his 27 inch. Best Wishes, Bob Sent from my iPad On Oct 10, 2012, at 1:45 AM, ValterV wrote: > Hi all! > I just joined this group, because I'm pondering about getting an used Intel > iMac (replacing a PM G5 DP 2.7), and I need your expertise. :-) > > I am interested in the 24" models, but I did a little Googling and it seems > the 24" models were problematic: > - Googling "imac 24 problems" gives almost 32M results > - Typing "20" instead of "24", it gives 61M results > - With "21.5" it gives a little over 1M > - With "27", 14M. > > Does it mean the 24" iMacs were quite troublesome? > Basing on these figures, the 24" seems the worst model, besides the 20" model > (but the 20" could have been sold way more); and the 21.5" seems the less > troublesome (or the least sold, but It doesn't seem likely). > The 21.5" model would be my second choice, if the 24" isn't much realiable > (processor speed would always be more than my G5, so it's not an issue). > > Since I'm going to buy a relatively old machine, I would like to know in > advance if I'm getting into likely trouble. > I'm somehow good with hardware and troubleshooting, but opening the iMacs is > no piece of cake, so I try to avoid it as much as I can. > I heard several times about bad capacitors' fault in iMacs, but I don't know > if they happen in every iMac model or just in some. > > Any info about reliability would be welcome. > Thanks in advance, > Valter > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group > for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
(Intel) iMacs reliability
Hi all! I just joined this group, because I'm pondering about getting an used Intel iMac (replacing a PM G5 DP 2.7), and I need your expertise. :-) I am interested in the 24" models, but I did a little Googling and it seems the 24" models were problematic: - Googling "imac 24 problems" gives almost 32M results - Typing "20" instead of "24", it gives 61M results - With "21.5" it gives a little over 1M - With "27", 14M. Does it mean the 24" iMacs were quite troublesome? Basing on these figures, the 24" seems the worst model, besides the 20" model (but the 20" could have been sold way more); and the 21.5" seems the less troublesome (or the least sold, but It doesn't seem likely). The 21.5" model would be my second choice, if the 24" isn't much realiable (processor speed would always be more than my G5, so it's not an issue). Since I'm going to buy a relatively old machine, I would like to know in advance if I'm getting into likely trouble. I'm somehow good with hardware and troubleshooting, but opening the iMacs is no piece of cake, so I try to avoid it as much as I can. I heard several times about bad capacitors' fault in iMacs, but I don't know if they happen in every iMac model or just in some. Any info about reliability would be welcome. Thanks in advance, Valter -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
