Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still

2008-11-20 Thread Simon Royal

Dan

Please don't lecture me about bottom posting, it is only 'advised' not 
enforced and it is a very outdated system.

Simon

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On Nov 19 2008, Dan wrote:


At 3:07 PM + 11/19/2008, Simon Royal wrote:

Please remember to bottom post and trim on these LEM lists.  It helps 
keep things orderly and makes sure that all issues are covered.  A 
bit frustrating, since you only answer some of the questions because 
of your top posting...  No config info.  No settings info.  No 
location set-up info.

Everything looks fine, everything was working fine when I had WEP turned
on. Then I changed the SSID and used WPA.

Does it work if you go back to WEP?

It only happens when the Mac is first switched on, but not all the time.
No, it never happens after sleep and I have automatic login so never have
logged in manually.

So switched on means a cold boot?

By random I mean it will be fine for two or three days, working fine and
auto connecting on start up and then the next day it will not.

What happens if you change channels?

I haven't looked in the system log.

Really, everything above is moot.  ALL debugging of network problems 
STARTS with checking the log.  Without the information from the log, 
config, etc, we're just taking shots in the dark here.

- Dan.



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Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still

2008-11-20 Thread Simon Royal

Dan

I didnt mean to offend and I did read all the replies, most didnt make any 
difference and Im still working through the rest.

Simon


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Subject: Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still
From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20/11/2008 17:15


At 8:17 AM + 11/20/2008, Simon Royal wrote:
Dan

Please don't lecture me about bottom posting, it is only 'advised' not
enforced and it is a very outdated system.

Simon,

Please go back thru this thread, re-reading every post.  You will 
find that there are questions asked for which you have provided no 
answers -- why?  Because the questions were lost because of top 
posting.  People here have a lot of ideas of how to fix problems but 
they only work IF we know what problem is.  We need details.  Without 
those details - the questions answered - we're just spinning our 
wheels.  10 posts into this issue and still no solution.

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Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still

2008-11-20 Thread Christopher Collins

Hi Simon,

I think you are spending far too much time trying to fix this. At this  
stage, I would be resetting the Airport Extreme to factory defaults  
and reconfiguring it with an SSID with no spaces and WPA/WPA2   
security with no spaces.

Then I would be going into each Mac (I think from memory you said  
there were 4), deleting all the existing network configurations under  
System Preferences - Network - Advanced - Airport and then  
reconnecting each Mac to the new Airport network you have just  
created.  Make sure each connects and is able to use the network/ 
internet before moving to the next.

Simpler, less time consuming and more likely to work.

cjc

On 21/11/2008, at 5:42 AM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Dan

 I didnt mean to offend and I did read all the replies, most didnt  
 make any difference and Im still working through the rest.

 Simon



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Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still

2008-11-20 Thread Simon Royal

Chris

Yes, but more chances of a different one not working. I look at it as I have 3 
fully working Macs with no problems.

Also, the problem is completely random, so I could go through this and two days 
later it happens again.

I'd rather not disturb a working network.

Simon

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Subject: Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still
From: Christopher Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20/11/2008 21:45


Hi Simon,

I think you are spending far too much time trying to fix this. At this  
stage, I would be resetting the Airport Extreme to factory defaults  
and reconfiguring it with an SSID with no spaces and WPA/WPA2   
security with no spaces.

Then I would be going into each Mac (I think from memory you said  
there were 4), deleting all the existing network configurations under  
System Preferences - Network - Advanced - Airport and then  
reconnecting each Mac to the new Airport network you have just  
created.  Make sure each connects and is able to use the network/ 
internet before moving to the next.

Simpler, less time consuming and more likely to work.

cjc

On 21/11/2008, at 5:42 AM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Dan

 I didnt mean to offend and I did read all the replies, most didnt  
 make any difference and Im still working through the rest.

 Simon







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Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still

2008-11-19 Thread Simon Royal

Hi

I still have not resolved my problem in Leopard. It seems to be Leopard 
specific as none of my other Macs do it.

It just randomly on start up forgets to my wireless network and I have to 
manually join.

I have Googled the problem and it seems a lot of other people have the same 
problem under Leopard, but no resolve. It started since I changed from WEP 
to WPA.

My SSID is hidden, if I changed this to broadcast SSID would this make any 
difference. My wife is getting quite annoyed that she has no internet when 
she turns the Mac on.

Simon

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Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still

2008-11-19 Thread Jim Emery

Hi Simon,

I had a similar issue on my laptop. I had a long list of known  
wireless access points stored in network sytem prefs. I found that  
culling this list helped the connection establish more reliably. I am  
not sure if this applies to your situation but thought I'd mention it.

Jim

On Nov 19, 2008, at 2:13 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi

 I still have not resolved my problem in Leopard. It seems to be  
 Leopard
 specific as none of my other Macs do it.

 It just randomly on start up forgets to my wireless network and I  
 have to
 manually join.

 I have Googled the problem and it seems a lot of other people have  
 the same
 problem under Leopard, but no resolve. It started since I changed  
 from WEP
 to WPA.

 My SSID is hidden, if I changed this to broadcast SSID would this  
 make any
 difference. My wife is getting quite annoyed that she has no  
 internet when
 she turns the Mac on.

 Simon

 --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades,
 hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich  
 Mac User
 Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an  
 Apple
 Mac.



 

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Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still

2008-11-19 Thread Simon Royal

Jim

Thanks for the reply, no I only have my access point in the preferred list.

Simon

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On Nov 19 2008, Jim Emery wrote:


Hi Simon,

I had a similar issue on my laptop. I had a long list of known  
wireless access points stored in network sytem prefs. I found that  
culling this list helped the connection establish more reliably. I am  
not sure if this applies to your situation but thought I'd mention it.

Jim

On Nov 19, 2008, at 2:13 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi

 I still have not resolved my problem in Leopard. It seems to be  
 Leopard
 specific as none of my other Macs do it.

 It just randomly on start up forgets to my wireless network and I  
 have to
 manually join.

 I have Googled the problem and it seems a lot of other people have  
 the same
 problem under Leopard, but no resolve. It started since I changed  
 from WEP
 to WPA.

 My SSID is hidden, if I changed this to broadcast SSID would this  
 make any
 difference. My wife is getting quite annoyed that she has no  
 internet when
 she turns the Mac on.

 Simon

 --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades,
 hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich  
 Mac User
 Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an  
 Apple
 Mac.



 





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Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still

2008-11-19 Thread Dan

At 3:07 PM + 11/19/2008, Simon Royal wrote:

Please remember to bottom post and trim on these LEM lists.  It helps 
keep things orderly and makes sure that all issues are covered.  A 
bit frustrating, since you only answer some of the questions because 
of your top posting...  No config info.  No settings info.  No 
location set-up info.

Everything looks fine, everything was working fine when I had WEP turned
on. Then I changed the SSID and used WPA.

Does it work if you go back to WEP?

It only happens when the Mac is first switched on, but not all the time.
No, it never happens after sleep and I have automatic login so never have
logged in manually.

So switched on means a cold boot?

By random I mean it will be fine for two or three days, working fine and
auto connecting on start up and then the next day it will not.

What happens if you change channels?

I haven't looked in the system log.

Really, everything above is moot.  ALL debugging of network problems 
STARTS with checking the log.  Without the information from the log, 
config, etc, we're just taking shots in the dark here.

- Dan.
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Re: Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still

2008-11-19 Thread Christopher Collins

Hi Simon,

Did you put a space in the SSID when you changed it? Many routers and  
computers have trouble handling SSIDs with a space in them.

cjc


On 20/11/2008, at 2:07 AM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Dan

 Everything looks fine, everything was working fine when I had WEP  
 turned
 on. Then I changed the SSID and used WPA.

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Forgetting Wireless

2008-11-15 Thread Simon Royal

Hi

I recently updated my wireless settings on my router. I changed the SSID, 
moved from WEP to WPA and set it to hidden SSID.

I have four Macs and a phone connected wirelessly. 2x eMacs running Tiger, 
an eMac running Leopard and a PowerBook G3 running Tiger, and obviously my 
Symbian mobile phone.

None of the other Macs have a problem, but my eMac running Leopard never 
remembers the network. When you switch it on, you have to rejoin, yet all 
the other Macs remember and it is active straight away.

I am running 10.5.5 with the latest updates added.

Any ideas?

Simon

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