Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-18 Thread Kasey Smith

On Dec 17, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Elliott Price wrote:

 10.4 has some significant changes, especially support issues and
 networking improvements. It runs surprisingly well on slow machines.


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Tiger runs well on my BW and my Indigo 400MHz iMac. It kinda ran on  
my 333MHz iMac G3 tray loader-because of the lack of support for the  
Rage Pro graphics chipset in OSX

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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-17 Thread Nestamicky
On 12/17/09 1:50 PM, Elliott Price wrote:
 10.4 has some significant changes, especially support issues and
 networking improvements. It runs surprisingly well on slow machines.
And I agree with this...see Tiger on my Sawtooth and you'd think it's an 
Intel machine, but wait until I go to Youtube, and you'd ask if I'm on 
dialup.

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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-17 Thread Christian Wacker
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/17/09 7:49 AM, Owen Strawn wrote:
 I thought about setting one of the iMacs up and gifting it to a relative, 
 but they seem to all have recent laptops (PCs though).

 Welcome to the sad universal truth...now you and I have machines we know
 is good for very basic stuff, which is what most of those people use
 their recent machines for. But the sales people got to them before us.

One reason they were able to sell them is because they can do more
than the basic stuff, which is inevitably going to be needed some
time.
You can't throw a Mac at every problem (except landlords, but make
sure you hit em' right in the head)

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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-16 Thread Owen Strawn
Yup - I put the 6gb back in the 266, and wiped the drive. Not much space left 
after reinstalling the system.

But now the 500 won't boot. Well, it boots, but the date is 1969 and it almost 
immediately kernel panics. I'm off to get a new PRAM battery and a firewire 
cable so I can play with target disk mode. Need make sure I have all the data 
off it before I wipe it.

What are you going to use the DV for?

Owen

- Original Message 
 From: Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com
 Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:22:52 PM
 
 Hehe, i put the original 6GB back in my 333MHz tray loader a few days  
 ago, and today i got an iMac DV (Summer 2000) today for $15 :D

 On Dec 14, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Owen Strawn wrote:
  Thanks Kasey! I'm thinking about maybe putting the original 6gb  
  drive back into the tray-loader, and the 20gb into an external  
  enclosure. I don't really have any use for the 266 that the 500  
  won't accomplish better.
 
  Owen
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Kasey Smith 
  Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 4:39:14 PM
 
  Yes, you can swap them, just make sure of the partitioning yada yada
  yada... (on the tray loader)
  On Dec 14, 2009, at 1:34 PM, owen wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I have a tray load iMac (266mhz rev C) with an 40gb upgraded hard
  drive, and a slot load iMac (500mhz early 2001) with its original  
  20gb
  drive. MacTracker says the tangerine uses an Ultra ATA bus and the
  flower power uses an ATA-3 bus.
 
  Can I swap the drives?
 
  FWIW the 40gb drive is an Apollo EIDE UDMA-133 7200 Quiet drive.
 
  Thanks!
  Owen
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-16 Thread Owen Strawn
I'll give that a try.

Thanks Clark!
Owen


- Original Message 
 From: Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net
 Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 2:20:49 PM
 
 Owen Strawn wrote:
  That would be a cool idea, but I've never managed to figure out how to use 
  a 
 remote server for iTunes (or iPhoto either). They never seem to want to wake 
 from sleep remotely.
  
 
 There is a program called WakeOnLAN that will wake up a remote computer. 
   You should be able to find it at 
 
 As a rule servers don't sleep.  (They don't get put in bedrooms either).
 
  Thanks!
  Owen
  
  
  - Original Message 
  From: Christian Wacker 
  Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:49:12 PM
 
  That 266 has only one or two uses left.
  My 266 tray loader became a Christmas Present to a friend, and it was
  loaded up with their whole music collection. (it's got some software
  and a special remote I made, so it's basically a nifty little juke
  box)
  And, I use my 350mhz iMac as the same, loaded my whole media library
  on it, and enjoy it when I fall asleep some nights, (then I let it
  fall asleep a few minutes later.)
 
 -- 
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 I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway


  

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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-16 Thread Kasey Smith

On Dec 16, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Owen Strawn wrote:

 What are you going to use the DV for?

 Owen

I'm assuming you meant me so I guess i will respond... I dont know  
really. I Installed Tiger on the thing and it runs quite well,  
especially after going form 128MB to 512MB or RAM. Its specs are  
about that of my PowerMac except for the Hard Drives, Optical Drives,  
and the VRAM. I might end up sending it to my mom's desk for her use  
as she only has a 2004 low end Dell...

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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-15 Thread Elliott Price
Does it work kinda like the remote that comes with newer Macs? I'm  
pretty sure you can wake it up with those.


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Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
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Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites

On Dec 15, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Owen Strawn wrote:

 That would be a cool idea, but I've never managed to figure out how  
 to use a remote server for iTunes (or iPhoto either). They never  
 seem to want to wake from sleep remotely.

 Thanks!
 Owen


 - Original Message 
 From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com
 Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:49:12 PM

 That 266 has only one or two uses left.
 My 266 tray loader became a Christmas Present to a friend, and it was
 loaded up with their whole music collection. (it's got some software
 and a special remote I made, so it's basically a nifty little juke
 box)
 And, I use my 350mhz iMac as the same, loaded my whole media library
 on it, and enjoy it when I fall asleep some nights, (then I let it
 fall asleep a few minutes later.)

 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Owen Strawn wrote:
 Thanks Kasey! I'm thinking about maybe putting the original 6gb  
 drive back
 into the tray-loader, and the 20gb into an external enclosure. I  
 don't really
 have any use for the 266 that the 500 won't accomplish better.

 Owen


 - Original Message 
 From: Kasey Smith
 Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 4:39:14 PM

 Yes, you can swap them, just make sure of the partitioning yada  
 yada
 yada... (on the tray loader)
 On Dec 14, 2009, at 1:34 PM, owen wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have a tray load iMac (266mhz rev C) with an 40gb upgraded hard
 drive, and a slot load iMac (500mhz early 2001) with its  
 original 20gb
 drive. MacTracker says the tangerine uses an Ultra ATA bus and  
 the
 flower power uses an ATA-3 bus.

 Can I swap the drives?

 FWIW the 40gb drive is an Apollo EIDE UDMA-133 7200 Quiet drive.

 Thanks!
 Owen





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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-15 Thread Owen Strawn
Actually, what I mean is that I can't access the server over the network 
without first going to wherever it is and manually waking it up.


- Original Message 
 From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 12:55:52 PM
 
 Does it work kinda like the remote that comes with newer Macs? I'm  
 pretty sure you can wake it up with those.
 
 
 -Elliott Price
 Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
 Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
 Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites
 
 On Dec 15, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Owen Strawn wrote:
 
  That would be a cool idea, but I've never managed to figure out how  
  to use a remote server for iTunes (or iPhoto either). They never  
  seem to want to wake from sleep remotely.
 
  Thanks!
  Owen
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Christian Wacker 
  Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:49:12 PM
 
  That 266 has only one or two uses left.
  My 266 tray loader became a Christmas Present to a friend, and it was
  loaded up with their whole music collection. (it's got some software
  and a special remote I made, so it's basically a nifty little juke
  box)
  And, I use my 350mhz iMac as the same, loaded my whole media library
  on it, and enjoy it when I fall asleep some nights, (then I let it
  fall asleep a few minutes later.)
 
  On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Owen Strawn wrote:
  Thanks Kasey! I'm thinking about maybe putting the original 6gb  
  drive back
  into the tray-loader, and the 20gb into an external enclosure. I  
  don't really
  have any use for the 266 that the 500 won't accomplish better.
 
  Owen
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Kasey Smith
  Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 4:39:14 PM
 
  Yes, you can swap them, just make sure of the partitioning yada  
  yada
  yada... (on the tray loader)
  On Dec 14, 2009, at 1:34 PM, owen wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I have a tray load iMac (266mhz rev C) with an 40gb upgraded hard
  drive, and a slot load iMac (500mhz early 2001) with its  
  original 20gb
  drive. MacTracker says the tangerine uses an Ultra ATA bus and  
  the
  flower power uses an ATA-3 bus.
 
  Can I swap the drives?
 
  FWIW the 40gb drive is an Apollo EIDE UDMA-133 7200 Quiet drive.
 
  Thanks!
  Owen
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-15 Thread Elliott Price
Oh. Yeah, I have that problem quite a bit, too. I wish they'd thought  
of the 10.6 wake on demand feature earlier!


-Elliott Price
Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites

On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Owen Strawn wrote:

 Actually, what I mean is that I can't access the server over the  
 network without first going to wherever it is and manually waking it  
 up.


 - Original Message 
 From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 12:55:52 PM

 Does it work kinda like the remote that comes with newer Macs? I'm
 pretty sure you can wake it up with those.


-Elliott Price
 Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
 Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
 Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites

 On Dec 15, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Owen Strawn wrote:

 That would be a cool idea, but I've never managed to figure out how
 to use a remote server for iTunes (or iPhoto either). They never
 seem to want to wake from sleep remotely.

 Thanks!
 Owen


 - Original Message 
 From: Christian Wacker
 Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:49:12 PM

 That 266 has only one or two uses left.
 My 266 tray loader became a Christmas Present to a friend, and it  
 was
 loaded up with their whole music collection. (it's got some  
 software
 and a special remote I made, so it's basically a nifty little juke
 box)
 And, I use my 350mhz iMac as the same, loaded my whole media  
 library
 on it, and enjoy it when I fall asleep some nights, (then I let it
 fall asleep a few minutes later.)

 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Owen Strawn wrote:
 Thanks Kasey! I'm thinking about maybe putting the original 6gb
 drive back
 into the tray-loader, and the 20gb into an external enclosure. I
 don't really
 have any use for the 266 that the 500 won't accomplish better.

 Owen


 - Original Message 
 From: Kasey Smith
 Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 4:39:14 PM

 Yes, you can swap them, just make sure of the partitioning yada
 yada
 yada... (on the tray loader)
 On Dec 14, 2009, at 1:34 PM, owen wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have a tray load iMac (266mhz rev C) with an 40gb upgraded  
 hard
 drive, and a slot load iMac (500mhz early 2001) with its
 original 20gb
 drive. MacTracker says the tangerine uses an Ultra ATA bus and
 the
 flower power uses an ATA-3 bus.

 Can I swap the drives?

 FWIW the 40gb drive is an Apollo EIDE UDMA-133 7200 Quiet drive.

 Thanks!
 Owen





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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-15 Thread Clark Martin
Owen Strawn wrote:
 That would be a cool idea, but I've never managed to figure out how to use a 
 remote server for iTunes (or iPhoto either). They never seem to want to wake 
 from sleep remotely.
 

There is a program called WakeOnLAN that will wake up a remote computer. 
  You should be able to find it at http://www.versiontracker.com

As a rule servers don't sleep.  (They don't get put in bedrooms either).

 Thanks!
 Owen
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com
 Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:49:12 PM

 That 266 has only one or two uses left.
 My 266 tray loader became a Christmas Present to a friend, and it was
 loaded up with their whole music collection. (it's got some software
 and a special remote I made, so it's basically a nifty little juke
 box)
 And, I use my 350mhz iMac as the same, loaded my whole media library
 on it, and enjoy it when I fall asleep some nights, (then I let it
 fall asleep a few minutes later.)




-- 
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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-14 Thread Elliott Price
Yeah. Any ATA drives are compatible, (I'm pretty sure, if not someone  
correct me) I've never had any trouble swapping drives around.  
(Between newer and older macs)


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On Dec 14, 2009, at 12:34 PM, owen wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have a tray load iMac (266mhz rev C) with an 40gb upgraded hard
 drive, and a slot load iMac (500mhz early 2001) with its original 20gb
 drive. MacTracker says the tangerine uses an Ultra ATA bus and the
 flower power uses an ATA-3 bus.

 Can I swap the drives?

 FWIW the 40gb drive is an Apollo EIDE UDMA-133 7200 Quiet drive.

 Thanks!
 Owen

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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-14 Thread Owen Strawn
Thanks Elliott!
Owen


- Original Message 
 From: Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com
 Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 4:54:03 PM
 
 Yeah. Any ATA drives are compatible, (I'm pretty sure, if not someone  
 correct me) I've never had any trouble swapping drives around.  
 (Between newer and older macs)
 
 
 -Elliott Price
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 On Dec 14, 2009, at 12:34 PM, owen wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I have a tray load iMac (266mhz rev C) with an 40gb upgraded hard
  drive, and a slot load iMac (500mhz early 2001) with its original 20gb
  drive. MacTracker says the tangerine uses an Ultra ATA bus and the
  flower power uses an ATA-3 bus.
 
  Can I swap the drives?
 
  FWIW the 40gb drive is an Apollo EIDE UDMA-133 7200 Quiet drive.
 
  Thanks!
  Owen


  

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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-14 Thread Kasey Smith
Yes, you can swap them, just make sure of the partitioning yada yada  
yada... (on the tray loader)
On Dec 14, 2009, at 1:34 PM, owen wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have a tray load iMac (266mhz rev C) with an 40gb upgraded hard
 drive, and a slot load iMac (500mhz early 2001) with its original 20gb
 drive. MacTracker says the tangerine uses an Ultra ATA bus and the
 flower power uses an ATA-3 bus.

 Can I swap the drives?

 FWIW the 40gb drive is an Apollo EIDE UDMA-133 7200 Quiet drive.

 Thanks!
 Owen

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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-14 Thread Owen Strawn
Thanks Kasey! I'm thinking about maybe putting the original 6gb drive back into 
the tray-loader, and the 20gb into an external enclosure. I don't really have 
any use for the 266 that the 500 won't accomplish better.

Owen


- Original Message 
 From: Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com
 Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 4:39:14 PM
 
 Yes, you can swap them, just make sure of the partitioning yada yada  
 yada... (on the tray loader)
 On Dec 14, 2009, at 1:34 PM, owen wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I have a tray load iMac (266mhz rev C) with an 40gb upgraded hard
  drive, and a slot load iMac (500mhz early 2001) with its original 20gb
  drive. MacTracker says the tangerine uses an Ultra ATA bus and the
  flower power uses an ATA-3 bus.
 
  Can I swap the drives?
 
  FWIW the 40gb drive is an Apollo EIDE UDMA-133 7200 Quiet drive.
 
  Thanks!
  Owen



  

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Re: iMac G3 hard drives

2009-12-14 Thread Clark Martin
Elliott Price wrote:
 Yeah. Any ATA drives are compatible, (I'm pretty sure, if not someone  
 correct me) I've never had any trouble swapping drives around.  
 (Between newer and older macs)

Almost.  There is a problem with certain machine using, I think, ATA-5 
drives.  I believe the machines in question are the Pismo and Lombard 
laptops so it doesn't apply to the op.  But there are differences and 
occasionally they do bite you.

 
 
   -Elliott Price
 Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
 Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
 Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites
 
 On Dec 14, 2009, at 12:34 PM, owen wrote:
 
 Hi all,

 I have a tray load iMac (266mhz rev C) with an 40gb upgraded hard
 drive, and a slot load iMac (500mhz early 2001) with its original 20gb
 drive. MacTracker says the tangerine uses an Ultra ATA bus and the
 flower power uses an ATA-3 bus.

 Can I swap the drives?

Yes.


 FWIW the 40gb drive is an Apollo EIDE UDMA-133 7200 Quiet drive.



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