Re: Toner refills...?

2009-01-23 Thread Gerald Uhlan

On 1/22/09 11:26 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:

 Another reason I stick with HP printers: consumables are cheap and
 readily available.

Cheap?  In my experience, HP inks and toners are the MOST expensive!



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Re: Toner refills...?

2009-01-23 Thread Manuel Marques

I'm sure is talking about the non-branded ones, those are indeed  
cheaper.
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On 23/01/2009, at 10:45, Gerald Uhlan wrote:


 On 1/22/09 11:26 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu  
 wrote:

 Another reason I stick with HP printers: consumables are cheap and
 readily available.

 Cheap?  In my experience, HP inks and toners are the MOST expensive!



 


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Re: Toner refills...?

2009-01-23 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jan 23, 2009, at 3:45 AM, Gerald Uhlan wrote:


 On 1/22/09 11:26 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu  
 wrote:

 Another reason I stick with HP printers: consumables are cheap and
 readily available.

 Cheap?  In my experience, HP inks and toners are the MOST expensive!

You've never shopped for Xerox toners, then, have you. A prof here got  
a nice Xerox color laser printer pretty cheap. He dumped it when he  
found that refilling the toners was going to be 150% of the original  
cost of the printer, and they were ridiculously low page count toner  
packs, like 3K pages...

EVERYONE sells HP compatible toners. I get mine from Office Depot,  
their own brand, and on sale I recently got one for my 4M for $69.  
That lasts me a year or more, since Im not that high volume a printer.

http://www.officedepot.com/catalog/search.do?N=5+100747+310982Ne=310635 
 

These are just the high capacity ones (8k pages), you can get one for  
$69.

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Re: Toner refills...?

2009-01-23 Thread Gerald Uhlan

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Bruce Johnson
john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:

 EVERYONE sells HP compatible toners. I get mine from Office Depot,
 their own brand, and on sale I recently got one for my 4M for $69.
 That lasts me a year or more, since Im not that high volume a printer.

 http://www.officedepot.com/catalog/search.do?N=5+100747+310982Ne=310635

 These are just the high capacity ones (8k pages), you can get one for
 $69.

Brother - what I use - is cheaper.  Usually $29 - $39 for the
compatible ones, or $10 - $15 for refill bottles.  For InkJet, I use
Epson, as I can get mine for $1 for black and $4 for color.

$69 ain't cheap, and that's why I avoid HP printers.

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Re: Toner refills...?

2009-01-23 Thread Manuel Jorge Marques

I also have a Brother (inkjet, with 4 different cartdriges). I find  
refilling a very nice option - about 5-6 euros per cartdrige. And  
compatible ones are cheap, too: I once got a 4-pack for about 15-20  
euros, and they last me a couple of months!

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On Jan 23, 2009, at 17:34 , Gerald Uhlan wrote:


 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Bruce Johnson
 john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:

 EVERYONE sells HP compatible toners. I get mine from Office Depot,
 their own brand, and on sale I recently got one for my 4M for $69.
 That lasts me a year or more, since Im not that high volume a  
 printer.

 http://www.officedepot.com/catalog/search.do?N=5+100747+310982Ne=310635 
 

 These are just the high capacity ones (8k pages), you can get one for
 $69.

 Brother - what I use - is cheaper.  Usually $29 - $39 for the
 compatible ones, or $10 - $15 for refill bottles.  For InkJet, I use
 Epson, as I can get mine for $1 for black and $4 for color.

 $69 ain't cheap, and that's why I avoid HP printers.

 


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Re: Toner refills...?

2009-01-23 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Gerald Uhlan wrote:

 Brother - what I use - is cheaper.  Usually $29 - $39 for the
 compatible ones, or $10 - $15 for refill bottles.


That's largely because Brother has separated the drum and the toner  
cartridge. replacement cost on a drum from Brother is significantly  
higher. OTOH, when you replace the cart in an HP system you get a  
clean, new drum.

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Re: Toner refills...?

2009-01-21 Thread Thunder 1



On Jan 20, 6:58 pm, William Spencer wspen...@jhu.edu wrote:
 Hi there: I am seeing bottles of refill toner for laser cartridges  
 being offered, and would like to solicit views on how sensible a  
 route that might be, rather than try to find an increasingly rare  
 cartridge for my poor old Apple 12/640 PS. How feasible is it to put  
 new toner into old cartridges? Messy? Reliable? Complicated? Etc. etc.

 As usual my thanks in advance!

 ***

 Bill Spencer in Maryland
 IMac Core Duo 2.4 ghz/1 g RAM/Leopard
 IMac Core Duo 1.83 ghz/1 g RAM/Tiger
 iBook G3 12.1/800mhz/640mb RAM/Tiger

Try Inksell.com   I use them a lot for refills for my ink jet printer,
and they are good people.
Bill
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Re: Toner refills...?

2009-01-21 Thread Steve from Raleigh

On Jan 20, 8:58 pm, William Spencer wspen...@jhu.edu wrote:
 Hi there: I am seeing bottles of refill toner for laser cartridges  
 being offered, and would like to solicit views on how sensible a  
 route that might be, rather than try to find an increasingly rare  
 cartridge for my poor old Apple 12/640 PS. How feasible is it to put  
 new toner into old cartridges? Messy? Reliable? Complicated? Etc. etc.

As you probably know, the Apple part number for that toner cartridge
is M4683G/A, and using that or your model number, I found thousands of
hits on Google for remanufactured/compatible cartridges, at least as
low as $62+shipping (6,000 pages @ 5% coverage), and almost all of
those I checked offered refilling.

So, I don't think rare really applies, but you don't have the
advantage my old Laserwriter Pro 630 has of having an HP equivalent.
FYI, the other printers using your cartridge include: Xerox DocuPrint
P12, GCC Elite 12/1200N,12/600,1212, IBM 4312, IBM Network Printer 12,
and NEC Superscript 1260,1260N.

BTW, believe it or not, toner is considered a toxic material and you
need to take special care not to breathe in any of that fine
polystyrene powder if you do undertake refilling yourself--and follow
your communities' rules on disposal of household toxic waste.

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Re: Toner refills...?

2009-01-21 Thread Bill Spencer

On Jan 21, 8:29 pm, Steve from Raleigh s...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 On Jan 20, 8:58 pm, William Spencer wspen...@jhu.edu wrote:

  Hi there: I am seeing bottles of refill toner for laser cartridges  
  being offered, and would like to solicit views on how sensible a  
  route that might be, rather than try to find an increasingly rare  
  cartridge for my poor old Apple 12/640 PS. How feasible is it to put  
  new toner into old cartridges? Messy? Reliable? Complicated? Etc. etc.

 As you probably know, the Apple part number for that toner cartridge
 is M4683G/A, and using that or your model number, I found thousands of
 hits on Google for remanufactured/compatible cartridges, at least as
 low as $62+shipping (6,000 pages @ 5% coverage), and almost all of
 those I checked offered refilling.

 So, I don't think rare really applies, but you don't have the
 advantage my old Laserwriter Pro 630 has of having an HP equivalent.
 FYI, the other printers using your cartridge include: Xerox DocuPrint
 P12, GCC Elite 12/1200N,12/600,1212, IBM 4312, IBM Network Printer 12,
 and NEC Superscript 1260,1260N.

 BTW, believe it or not, toner is considered a toxic material and you
 need to take special care not to breathe in any of that fine
 polystyrene powder if you do undertake refilling yourself--and follow
 your communities' rules on disposal of household toxic waste.

Oh, I know there are cartridges out there, but if $62 plus shipping is
the low price that is still mighty steep for me. That's why I'm
wondering about buying the toner by itself. I have always understood
that it's messy stuff, which is another reason I'm asking...how simple
is the process of refilling and how tidy is it possible to be. Ink
cartridges are one thing, but laser seems like a totally different
kettle of fish. And I also have this notion (who knows where I got it)
that the cartridge itself begins to wear after a while and I wonder if
refilling one is worth it if the wear level is such that using a
refilled one could affect print quality.

Thanks! Bill
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Toner refills...?

2009-01-20 Thread William Spencer
Hi there: I am seeing bottles of refill toner for laser cartridges  
being offered, and would like to solicit views on how sensible a  
route that might be, rather than try to find an increasingly rare  
cartridge for my poor old Apple 12/640 PS. How feasible is it to put  
new toner into old cartridges? Messy? Reliable? Complicated? Etc. etc.

As usual my thanks in advance!


***

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IMac Core Duo 2.4 ghz/1 g RAM/Leopard
IMac Core Duo 1.83 ghz/1 g RAM/Tiger
iBook G3 12.1/800mhz/640mb RAM/Tiger


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Re: Toner refills...?

2009-01-20 Thread MI Shaw
I got toner refill in bottles for my LaserWriter Pro  from dol-auctions on
eBay. They are in Montreal Canada BUT they ship to auction winners from BOTH
sides of the border, from Quebec if you are Canadian and from Vermont if you
are American. Very cheap postage.
Very good prices  it worked just fine. Two refills for about $20.00

M


On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:58 PM, William Spencer wspen...@jhu.edu wrote:

 Hi there: I am seeing bottles of refill toner for laser cartridges being
 offered, and would like to solicit views on how sensible a route that might
 be, rather than try to find an increasingly rare cartridge for my poor old
 Apple 12/640 PS. How feasible is it to put new toner into old cartridges?
 Messy? Reliable? Complicated? Etc. etc.
 As usual my thanks in advance!


 ***


 Bill Spencer in Maryland

 IMac Core Duo 2.4 ghz/1 g RAM/Leopard
 IMac Core Duo 1.83 ghz/1 g RAM/Tiger
 iBook G3 12.1/800mhz/640mb RAM/Tiger


 


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Re: Toner refills...?

2009-01-20 Thread Kyle Parish

Unless I get a refill at Island Ink-jet for a ink-jet, I use
http://www.printpal.com/.  You might see what the price is for their
toner.  *Have not bought toner from them.  Otherwise I have no opinion
on buying toner bottles.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:32 PM, MI Shaw ducati...@gmail.com wrote:
 I got toner refill in bottles for my LaserWriter Pro  from dol-auctions on
 eBay. They are in Montreal Canada BUT they ship to auction winners from BOTH
 sides of the border, from Quebec if you are Canadian and from Vermont if you
 are American. Very cheap postage.
 Very good prices  it worked just fine. Two refills for about $20.00
 M


 On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:58 PM, William Spencer wspen...@jhu.edu wrote:

 Hi there: I am seeing bottles of refill toner for laser cartridges being
 offered, and would like to solicit views on how sensible a route that might
 be, rather than try to find an increasingly rare cartridge for my poor old
 Apple 12/640 PS. How feasible is it to put new toner into old cartridges?
 Messy? Reliable? Complicated? Etc. etc.
 As usual my thanks in advance!


 ***

 Bill Spencer in Maryland

 IMac Core Duo 2.4 ghz/1 g RAM/Leopard
 IMac Core Duo 1.83 ghz/1 g RAM/Tiger
 iBook G3 12.1/800mhz/640mb RAM/Tiger




 


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