Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?

2010-04-25 Thread Al Poulin
On Apr 24, 9:30 pm, cad  wrote:
>
> Would there be anything wrong with a single Hard Drive, partitioned  
> between TM, and Bootable backup    
> [maybe even a 'few' bootable partitions' for several choices.]

That is a very good start with good habits.

But an advantage of separating the bootable backup from the TM backup
is that when one of those external drives fails, you still have the
other one available.  Also, it is best to connect the bootable backup
drive to the computer ONLY when actually doing the backup or a
recovery.  Disconnect it from both the machine and AC power when it is
not running.  I clone three or four Macs to separate, bootable
partitions on a drive about once a week.  Some folks do it more
frequently.  Some folks keep two bootable backup drives, having one
off-site in case of calamity at home base.

By its nature, a TM external drive is connected to both the computer
and AC power at all times, making it vulnerable to lightning and power
hits.  I have all four Macs running TM to a Time Capsule.

Al Poulin

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Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?

2010-04-24 Thread cad


On Apr 24, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Al Poulin wrote:


On Apr 23, 1:15 pm, John Niven  wrote:
Wow! I just looked at iFixit.com and it looks as complicated as a  
PowerBook to replace the harddrive!.


I think I'm just going to leave it alone (at least until it fails).
I can tackle this level of complexity but it looks like ther is  
plenty of opportunity to make things worst =( not better.


I think this leans me towards a backup onto external hard drive,  
clean install, and then copy over what she needs now.


Excellent leaning.  Consider making that external drive a bootable
clone with Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper.  Alternatively, use the
external drive with Time Machine.  Or take the best of both worlds by
getting two external drives, one for cloning and the other for Time
Machine.

Al Poulin


Would there be anything wrong with a single Hard Drive, partitioned  
between TM, and Bootable backup

[maybe even a 'few' bootable partitions' for several choices.]

Chuck Davis

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Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?

2010-04-24 Thread Al Poulin
On Apr 23, 1:15 pm, John Niven  wrote:
> Wow! I just looked at iFixit.com and it looks as complicated as a PowerBook 
> to replace the harddrive!.
>
> I think I'm just going to leave it alone (at least until it fails).
> I can tackle this level of complexity but it looks like ther is plenty of 
> opportunity to make things worst =( not better.
>
> I think this leans me towards a backup onto external hard drive, clean 
> install, and then copy over what she needs now.

Excellent leaning.  Consider making that external drive a bootable
clone with Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper.  Alternatively, use the
external drive with Time Machine.  Or take the best of both worlds by
getting two external drives, one for cloning and the other for Time
Machine.

Al Poulin

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Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?

2010-04-23 Thread Ashgrove
On Apr 23, 1:15 pm, John Niven  wrote:
> Bring back the (affordable) tower please!

Amen to that.

F

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Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?

2010-04-23 Thread John Niven
Wow! I just looked at iFixit.com and it looks as complicated as a PowerBook to 
replace the harddrive!.

I think I'm just going to leave it alone (at least until it fails).
I can tackle this level of complexity but it looks like ther is plenty of 
opportunity to make things worst =( not better.

I think this leans me towards a backup onto external hard drive, clean install, 
and then copy over what she needs now.

Bring back the (affordable) tower please!

--- On Fri, 4/23/10, Ashgrove  wrote:

> From: Ashgrove 
> Subject: Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?
> To: "iMac Group" 
> Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 10:47 AM
> On Apr 23, 10:07 am, John Niven
> 
> wrote:
> > What kind of hard drive is needed? Any idea how big it
> can be? The current one (original) is 140Gb. This is a 17"
> 1.83GHz Core Duo iMac from 20006, I upgraded the ram to
> 2Gb.
> 
> If your wife does not use a lot of programs or storage, I
> would say
> keep your current HDD for now. A good way to make a
> computer speedier
> and more efficient, though, is to get a bigger, faster
> drive. You can
> get up to 2 terabytes now, I think, and as fast as
> 10,000RPM, so the
> sky's the limit.
> 
> Felix

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Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?

2010-04-23 Thread Ashgrove
On Apr 23, 10:07 am, John Niven  wrote:
> What kind of hard drive is needed? Any idea how big it can be? The current 
> one (original) is 140Gb. This is a 17" 1.83GHz Core Duo iMac from 20006, I 
> upgraded the ram to 2Gb.

If your wife does not use a lot of programs or storage, I would say
keep your current HDD for now. A good way to make a computer speedier
and more efficient, though, is to get a bigger, faster drive. You can
get up to 2 terabytes now, I think, and as fast as 10,000RPM, so the
sky's the limit.

Felix

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Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?

2010-04-23 Thread John Niven
OK thanks everybody. I went to the Apple store and bought the Mac Box Set 
MC581Z/A which cost me ~$152 with a corporate discount and tax.

This states that it's an upgrade for leopard or tiger, and includes ilife and 
iWork.

I think its worth it because Apple recently replaced this iMacs screen for free 
(it developed vertical lines). I'm thinking that if I replace the hard drive, 
my wife should get another five or so years out of it (she's not a "power" user 
and she likes it's looks :).

What kind of hard drive is needed? Any idea how big it can be? The current one 
(original) is 140Gb. This is a 17" 1.83GHz Core Duo iMac from 20006, I upgraded 
the ram to 2Gb.

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Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?

2010-04-21 Thread Al Poulin


On Apr 20, 5:25 pm, John Niven  wrote:
> My wife has a 2006 17" Intel iMac, which came with, and still has, Tiger 
> (with all the updates). Recently she came across a program that required at 
> least Leopard. So I'm thinking of upgrading her.
>
> Can I go from Tiger to Snow Leopard directly? Do I just need the retail 
> upgrade box? Anything to watch out for?

Yes and yes.  Watch out for your own data.  You should do a complete
backup of anything you do not want to risk losing.  Also, verify that
you meet the minimum requirements for memory and disk space.  Some
iMacs of that vintage came with half the required RAM.  But moving to
Snow Leopard has been the easiest and slickest upgrade of Apple's OS
yet.

To be legal with Apple licensing, you should buy the full software
suite, "Box Set," which includes iWork and iLIfe.  Your wife will be
glad you did.  It is technically possible to install the cheap version
of Snow Leopard, but that license is legal if you already have Leopard
on the machine.

Al Poulin

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Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?

2010-04-20 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:25 PM, John Niven wrote:

My wife has a 2006 17" Intel iMac, which came with, and still has,  
Tiger (with all the updates). Recently she came across a program  
that required at least Leopard. So I'm thinking of upgrading her.


Can I go from Tiger to Snow Leopard directly? Do I just need the  
retail upgrade box? Anything to watch out for?


yep, I've done that to a couple of systems with no issues at all. The  
only problems I've run into are printer driver issues, because we have  
some big networked Xerox and Canon copiers/printers, and one really  
obscure issue with a system joined to a Windows 2003 file server.


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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
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Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?

2010-04-20 Thread Elliott Price
Officially, Apple wants you to buy the box set for Snow Leopard when  
upgrading from Tiger, since you haven't payed for Leopard.
However, the non-box set version will still upgrade from Tiger. (I'm  
95% sure.) So the decision is up to you.

(The box set is the version that includes iLife, and iWork. )

-Elliott


On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:25 PM, John Niven wrote:

My wife has a 2006 17" Intel iMac, which came with, and still has,  
Tiger (with all the updates). Recently she came across a program  
that required at least Leopard. So I'm thinking of upgrading her.


Can I go from Tiger to Snow Leopard directly? Do I just need the  
retail upgrade box? Anything to watch out for?


Thanks

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Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?

2010-04-20 Thread John Niven
My wife has a 2006 17" Intel iMac, which came with, and still has, Tiger (with 
all the updates). Recently she came across a program that required at least 
Leopard. So I'm thinking of upgrading her.

Can I go from Tiger to Snow Leopard directly? Do I just need the retail upgrade 
box? Anything to watch out for?

Thanks

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