Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser
Kyle. I know. This has been done. Software Update. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser From: Kyle Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/12/2008 07:21 If you click on the Apple icon on the top left, there will be a link that says something like update files. You need to connect to the internet and run this program. It is similar to running windows update. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Apple Updater? Are you talking about Software Update or is there something else I am missing? Simon On 8 Dec 2008, at 02:31, Kyle Parish wrote: Make sure you use the apple updater to get the latest drivers and everything. This won't hurt. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:09 AM, ./aal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan The PowerBook has a 32MB AGP 4x ATI Mobility Radeon 9000, the eMac has a 32MB AGP 4x ATI Radeon 9200. In terms of drivers, well they are Macs running Leopard with built in drivers. The eMac has more RAM and about 60% more processor power. Speed does not equal processor power A Ferrari is faster than a train, but which will get 100 tons of freight coast to coast first? after some interesting reading I found your answer the eMac(ppc 7447a) does not have L3 cache, the powerbook(ppc 7455) does The cpu speed only comes into play once the data is actually in the cpu even though the emac has a substantially higher clock speed the powerbook spends less time waiting for data to work on even if you had a 40ghz cpu it would be slow if it took a second to xfer data to the cpu here are some links if you are curious emac specs http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/emac/stats/emac_1.25.html powerbook specs http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/powerbook_g4_867.html G4 cpu wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_G4#PowerPC_7447.2F7457_.22Apollo_7.22 cache wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU_cache -- I'm a PC AND I RUN LINUX!!! Dean Martin - If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt. --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser
Dan What further information would you like? The eMac has an 80GB 7200RPM Seagate drive, not stock and the PowerBook has an 80GB 5400RPM drive, not stock. Both machines totally up to date running 10.5.5. eMac has a genuine Airport Extreme card, PowerBook has a Buffalo Airstation as Airport Extreme card. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09/12/2008 16:38 At 10:01 AM + 12/9/2008, Simon Royal wrote: I did provide all the information needed and to be honest it isn't a major problem. Ohkay. In any case, both machines were using the same circumstances. But there IS a difference between them and without further information there's not much we can suggest. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser
At 5:54 PM + 12/9/2008, Simon Royal wrote: What further information would you like? Well... Does the visualizer stutter when the file sharing is NOT in use? When turned off? If it does, then what does Activity Monitor show as the top few CPU using processes? There is SOMETHING in that eMac taking away resources from the visualizer. The point is to look around to find it... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser
Dan. File sharing is on. Turning off make no difference. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09/12/2008 18:23 At 5:54 PM + 12/9/2008, Simon Royal wrote: What further information would you like? Well... Does the visualizer stutter when the file sharing is NOT in use? When turned off? If it does, then what does Activity Monitor show as the top few CPU using processes? There is SOMETHING in that eMac taking away resources from the visualizer. The point is to look around to find it... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser
If you click on the Apple icon on the top left, there will be a link that says something like update files. You need to connect to the internet and run this program. It is similar to running windows update. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Apple Updater? Are you talking about Software Update or is there something else I am missing? Simon On 8 Dec 2008, at 02:31, Kyle Parish wrote: Make sure you use the apple updater to get the latest drivers and everything. This won't hurt. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:09 AM, ./aal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan The PowerBook has a 32MB AGP 4x ATI Mobility Radeon 9000, the eMac has a 32MB AGP 4x ATI Radeon 9200. In terms of drivers, well they are Macs running Leopard with built in drivers. The eMac has more RAM and about 60% more processor power. Speed does not equal processor power A Ferrari is faster than a train, but which will get 100 tons of freight coast to coast first? after some interesting reading I found your answer the eMac(ppc 7447a) does not have L3 cache, the powerbook(ppc 7455) does The cpu speed only comes into play once the data is actually in the cpu even though the emac has a substantially higher clock speed the powerbook spends less time waiting for data to work on even if you had a 40ghz cpu it would be slow if it took a second to xfer data to the cpu here are some links if you are curious emac specs http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/emac/stats/emac_1.25.html powerbook specs http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/powerbook_g4_867.html G4 cpu wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_G4#PowerPC_7447.2F7457_.22Apollo_7.22 cache wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU_cache -- I'm a PC AND I RUN LINUX!!! Dean Martin - If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt. --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser
Hi Apple Updater? Are you talking about Software Update or is there something else I am missing? Simon On 8 Dec 2008, at 02:31, Kyle Parish wrote: Make sure you use the apple updater to get the latest drivers and everything. This won't hurt. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:09 AM, ./aal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan The PowerBook has a 32MB AGP 4x ATI Mobility Radeon 9000, the eMac has a 32MB AGP 4x ATI Radeon 9200. In terms of drivers, well they are Macs running Leopard with built in drivers. The eMac has more RAM and about 60% more processor power. Speed does not equal processor power A Ferrari is faster than a train, but which will get 100 tons of freight coast to coast first? after some interesting reading I found your answer the eMac(ppc 7447a) does not have L3 cache, the powerbook(ppc 7455) does The cpu speed only comes into play once the data is actually in the cpu even though the emac has a substantially higher clock speed the powerbook spends less time waiting for data to work on even if you had a 40ghz cpu it would be slow if it took a second to xfer data to the cpu here are some links if you are curious emac specs http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/emac/stats/emac_1.25.html powerbook specs http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/powerbook_g4_867.html G4 cpu wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_G4#PowerPC_7447.2F7457_.22Apollo_7.22 cache wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU_cache -- I'm a PC AND I RUN LINUX!!! Dean Martin - If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt. --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac vs PowerBook - iTunes Visualiser
At 3:57 PM + 12/8/2008, Simon Royal wrote: It is accessing 25000 mp3s on a hard drive in a firewire case. However, when I use the PowerBook it is connecting wirelessly via the eMac to the firewire drive and it works fine. Would have thought the wireless connecting would have slowed it down but it runs better than it does on the eMac. Again, you're jumping to conclusions with no evidence. What does Activity Monitor show? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
