[Imap-uw] Problem deleting folders with Thunderbird
We have a problem with users trying to delete folders using Thunderbird. Part of it is a TB problem IMO (some discussion with Mark a while back; TB is trying to delete an open folder without deselecting it). However, another issue seems to be that imapd is not unsubscribing from the deleted folder properly from network capture: 3 list Trash/test/* * LIST (\HasNoChildren) / Trash/test/ 3 OK LIST completed 4 delete Trash/test/ 4 OK DELETE completed 5 unsubscribe Trash/test/ 5 NO Not subscribed to mailbox Trash/test/ 6 logout - at this point, Trash/test/ has disappeared from the filesystem, but there is still an entry Trash/test in .mailboxlist. Thunderbird seems to ignore error status and thinks it has successfully unsubscribed - the icon disappears. But after exiting and restarting (logging in again), the icon reappears pointing to a mailbox that cannot be selected. imapd-2007, as I recall https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357911 I submitted 414101 now marked as a duplicate -- Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF, Canada Tel. +1 (604) 222-7376 (Pacific Time) Network Security Manager ___ Imap-uw mailing list Imap-uw@u.washington.edu http://mailman2.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/imap-uw
Re: [Imap-uw] Problem deleting folders with Thunderbird
On May 14 2009, Mark Crispin wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2009, Andrew Daviel wrote: 5 unsubscribe Trash/test/ 5 NO Not subscribed to mailbox Trash/test/ - at this point, Trash/test/ has disappeared from the filesystem, but there is still an entry Trash/test in .mailboxlist. Look at the above very carefully. imapd says that Trash/test/ is not subscribed. The .mailboxlist file shows that Trash/test is subscribed. Note the difference in the two strings. Just to be explicit, the moral of the story is that using subscriptions is not a good idea because every client is stupid in their handling of subs, and worse, they're all stupid in slightly different ways. -Brian ___ Imap-uw mailing list Imap-uw@u.washington.edu http://mailman2.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/imap-uw
Re: [Imap-uw] Problem deleting folders with Thunderbird
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Brian Hayden wrote: Just to be explicit, the moral of the story is that using subscriptions is not a good idea because every client is stupid in their handling of subs, and worse, they're all stupid in slightly different ways. Correct. The ONLY valid use for subscriptions is if a server exports netnews groups or similar functionality. This allows the user to keep a list of which newsgroups he is subscribed to. Now that netnews is effectively dead, the purpose and use of IMAP subscriptions should die with it. Any client which do a LIST * and subscribe all the names returned is broken by design. This means you, Outlook and Thunderbird. That practice is completely unnecessary, and is based upon false folklore. -- Mark -- http://panda.com/mrc Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote. ___ Imap-uw mailing list Imap-uw@u.washington.edu http://mailman2.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/imap-uw