Re: [efloraofindia:76856] Flora of Panipat: Terminalia Chebula from herbal Garden Panipat (Samalkha)

2011-08-13 Thread Neil Soares
Hi,
 Agree with Dr.Vijayasankar. This is Terminalia bellirica.
  Regards,
    Neil Soares

--- On Sat, 8/13/11, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:


From: Gurcharan Singh 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76832] Flora of Panipat: Terminalia Chebula from 
herbal Garden Panipat (Samalkha)
To: "Balkar Arya" 
Cc: "Vijayasankar" , "indiantreepix" 

Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 11:21 AM


Balkar ji
Differences between Madhuca and Terminalia chebula whose leaves can be confused 
are well illustrated in Pradip Kishan in Trees of Delhi. My book is in Delhi, 
if you have it handy, it will help you a lot. The primary difference is number 
of lateral veins.




-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Balkar Arya  wrote:

May Be Sir but the person from that herbal garden were saying that it is Harad 
not bahera. Initially after seeing the label of plant ie Termialia tinctoria i 
got confused and when enquired they said we dont know scientific name but it is 
Badi harad( Large harad) so i wrote T chebula.





On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Vijayasankar  wrote:

Nice pictures, Balkar ji, I think you wanted to type T. bellirica...

 
Regards  
 Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi






On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Balkar Arya  wrote:

Dear All
Terminalia chebula from Herbal Garden Samalkha Panipat
Cultivated pics on 28-6-11
No flowers fruits seen
Cultivated tree
 Family: Combretaceae 
name written on signboard not valid

pls validate-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964





-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964






[efloraofindia:76858] Re: 09082011-BS-001 A small tree for ID from Munak Road Karnal

2011-08-13 Thread Nudrat
Hello,

I doubt if the tree in picture is Streblus asper as the Streblus that
i have seen growing around Mumbai are quite dull green and very rough
in appearance. I might, however be wrong


On Aug 12, 5:06 pm, Ushadi micromini 
wrote:
> I have since my above writing googled the possible use of leaves in
> polishing...
> I forget which url was it, but somewhere it says its used in polishing
> wood and IVORY...
> LO, Ivory???
> Usha di
> =
>
> On Aug 12, 12:54 pm, Pudji Widodo  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dear Dr Balkar Singh,
>
> > In Indonesia there are a lot of Streblus asper but I have never seen
> > the flowers and fruits.  The leaves are not rough enough to polish the
> > hard wood, for soft wood like Hibiscus tiliaceus is enough.  I think
> > the strongest for polishing wood  is Ficus ampelas.  Thank you for
> > uploading the pictures.
>
> > Regards,
> > Pudji Widodo
> > Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
> > PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA


[efloraofindia:76860] Re: 09082011-BS-001 A small tree for ID from Munak Road Karnal

2011-08-13 Thread Mohan V. Chunkath
I have heard of leaves of Nyctanthes arbor-tristis being used for
rubbing down wood to get a fine finish. The leaves of this plant are
indeed quite rough.
Cheers,
Mohan

On Aug 13, 12:14 pm, Nudrat  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I doubt if the tree in picture is Streblus asper as the Streblus that
> i have seen growing around Mumbai are quite dull green and very rough
> in appearance. I might, however be wrong
>
> On Aug 12, 5:06 pm, Ushadi micromini 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have since my above writing googled the possible use of leaves in
> > polishing...
> > I forget which url was it, but somewhere it says its used in polishing
> > wood and IVORY...
> > LO, Ivory???
> > Usha di
> > =
>
> > On Aug 12, 12:54 pm, Pudji Widodo  wrote:
>
> > > Dear Dr Balkar Singh,
>
> > > In Indonesia there are a lot of Streblus asper but I have never seen
> > > the flowers and fruits.  The leaves are not rough enough to polish the
> > > hard wood, for soft wood like Hibiscus tiliaceus is enough.  I think
> > > the strongest for polishing wood  is Ficus ampelas.  Thank you for
> > > uploading the pictures.
>
> > > Regards,
> > > Pudji Widodo
> > > Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
> > > PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA


Re: [efloraofindia:76861] Xanthium spinosum invasive in Kashmir

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
New to me have seen only Xanthium strumarium. Thanks for sharing

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:

> *Xanthium spinosum* L., Sp. pl. 2:987. 1753
> syn: *Xanthium ambrosioides* Hooker & Arnott
>
>
> Common names: Bathurst-bur, prickly burweed, spiny cocklebur
>
> A South American plant having become invasive in many parts of Old World.
> Perhaps a recent introduction in Kashmir, where it has become common along
> roadsides and waste places.
>
> Annual plant, up to 1 m tall, often much branched; nodes with spines in
> pairs, simple or 2-3 partite, 1.5-4 cm long; leaves ovate or
> ovate-lanceolate, 4-8 cm long, up to 5 cm broad, often 3-7-lobed, shining
> green on upper surface, gray or white beneath; heads globose, in racemes,
> lower usually pistillate, upper functionally male; burs enclosing cypselae,
> prickly, 10-15 mm long.
>
> Photographed from Balgarden (July) and Harwan (August) in Kashmir. I had
> photographed it last year also but then it was in vegetative state. Was able
> to get flowers and fruits this year.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>


-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:76863] Re: 09082011-BS-001 A small tree for ID from Munak Road Karnal

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
Yes Mohan Ji
Quite rough leaves N arbor-tristis have


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Mohan V. Chunkath <
mohan.chunk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have heard of leaves of Nyctanthes arbor-tristis being used for
> rubbing down wood to get a fine finish. The leaves of this plant are
> indeed quite rough.
> Cheers,
> Mohan
>
> On Aug 13, 12:14 pm, Nudrat  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I doubt if the tree in picture is Streblus asper as the Streblus that
> > i have seen growing around Mumbai are quite dull green and very rough
> > in appearance. I might, however be wrong
> >
> > On Aug 12, 5:06 pm, Ushadi micromini 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I have since my above writing googled the possible use of leaves in
> > > polishing...
> > > I forget which url was it, but somewhere it says its used in polishing
> > > wood and IVORY...
> > > LO, Ivory???
> > > Usha di
> > > =
> >
> > > On Aug 12, 12:54 pm, Pudji Widodo  wrote:
> >
> > > > Dear Dr Balkar Singh,
> >
> > > > In Indonesia there are a lot of Streblus asper but I have never seen
> > > > the flowers and fruits.  The leaves are not rough enough to polish
> the
> > > > hard wood, for soft wood like Hibiscus tiliaceus is enough.  I think
> > > > the strongest for polishing wood  is Ficus ampelas.  Thank you for
> > > > uploading the pictures.
> >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Pudji Widodo
> > > > Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
> > > > PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA
>



-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


[efloraofindia:76864] Re: Flora of Kaiga ID PLEASE 09082011 PJ2

2011-08-13 Thread Mohan V. Chunkath
How does one distinguish between Lagerstroemia indica and L. speciosa?
Thanks.
Cheers,
Mohan

On Aug 9, 10:05 pm, Dr  Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
> Yes this is Lagerstroemia speciosa (Family: Lythraceae)
> Pankaj
>
> On Aug 9, 10:04 pm, Dr  Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yes this is Lagerstroemia specios (Family: Lythraceae)
> > Pankaj
>
> > On Aug 9, 9:31 pm, Balkar Arya  wrote:
>
> > > May be Lagerstroemia speciosa
>
> > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:49 PM, PUTTARAJU K 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Dear All,
>
> > > > Flora of Kaiga_ID_Please_09082011 PJ2.
>
> > > > Date/Time-: 25/05/11   -    10:00
>
> > > > Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs
>
> > > > Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-   wild
>
> > > > Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Tree
>
> > > > Height/Length- 12m
>
> > > > With Regards,
> > > > PUTTARAJU K,
> > > > SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
> > > > KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
> > > > POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
> > > > KARNATAKA -581400
> > > > MOB : 9448999150
> > > > EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
> > > >              kputtar...@npcil.co.in
>
> > > --
> > > Regards
>
> > > Dr Balkar Singh
> > > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > > Haryana-132103
> > > 09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:76865] Flower ID Request 13-08-2011

2011-08-13 Thread vidyadhar ogale
This is probably Costus speciosus. Common in Sahyadri, especially in monsoon
locally known as Koshtha or Pev.
Dr.Ogale

On 13 August 2011 12:50, Amar  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I grabbed this pic of a flower growing in IIT Bombay today. The plant had
> grown to about 1.5 metres and the flowers appeared to borne on a deep blood
> red pedicel (that's what I believe it is called). I have attached two crops,
> one of the flower and the other of the leaves. Please let me know what
> flower it could be.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Amar
>


Re: [efloraofindia:76866] Request for ID : 270411 : AK-2

2011-08-13 Thread Nudrat Sayed
Hello,

I agree with Dr. Pankaj Kumar, this plant is not any Terminalia but it is
not Asana either as the leaves of Asana appears to be a bit dull and
broader. Still i might be not correct.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:31 PM, H S  wrote:

> I guess Bridelia squamosa
>
> regards,
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Pankaj Kumar wrote:
>
>> But this is not Terminalia. I was just talking about the local name,
>> Asana.
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:27 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>> > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>> >
>> > Some earlier relevant feedback:
>> >
>> > “ This is also Asana [ a Bridelia sp.] possibly B.spinosa.
>> >  Regards,
>> >   Neil Soares.”
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > “You know in our place Asana tree is for Terminalia alata!! They say
>> > that the log doesnt bend if dried in sunlight or kept in water. So I
>> > found it good for hanging my orchids on to it...
>> > Pankaj”
>> >
>> > -- Forwarded message --
>> > From: Aarti S. Khale 
>> > Date: 27 April 2011 11:49
>> > Subject: [efloraofindia:68166] Request for ID : 270411 : AK-2
>> > To: efloraofindia 
>> >
>> >
>> > A tree at Khandala, Maharashtra taken on the 24th of March, 2011.
>> > Very tiny flowers.
>> > Aarti
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > With regards,
>> > J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
>> > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>> > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species &
>> > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
>> > alphabetically & place-wise):
>> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
>> them
>> > for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>> > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>> Flora,
>> > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
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>> &
>> > 75,000 messages on 31/7/11) or Efloraofindia website:
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>> of
>> > around 5000 species)
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
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>> Research Associate
>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
>> Department of Habitat Ecology
>> Wildlife Institute of India
>> Post Box # 18
>> Dehradun - 248001, India
>>
>
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>


-- 
Warm Regards
Sayed Nudrat Zawar


Re: [efloraofindia:76867] Flower ID Request 13-08-2011

2011-08-13 Thread Nayan Singh
yes it is 
now known as Cheilocostus speciosus (J.König)
 
thanks
 
Nayan.

N.S.Dungriyal IFS
Chief Conservator of Forests
and Field Director
Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad
M.P.
09424792100

From: vidyadhar ogale 
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76865] Flower ID Request 13-08-2011


This is probably Costus speciosus. Common in Sahyadri, especially in monsoon 
locally known as Koshtha or Pev. 
Dr.Ogale


On 13 August 2011 12:50, Amar  wrote:

Hi,
>
>I grabbed this pic of a flower growing in IIT Bombay today. The plant had 
>grown to about 1.5 metres and the flowers appeared to borne on a deep blood 
>red pedicel (that's what I believe it is called). I have attached two crops, 
>one of the flower and the other of the leaves. Please let me know what flower 
>it could be.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Amar
>

Re: [efloraofindia:76868] Flora of Panipat: Terminalia Chebula from herbal Garden Panipat (Samalkha)

2011-08-13 Thread Farida Abraham
kkindly unsubscribe me from the group. I may rejoin after a few months.
Thank you. F. Abraham

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Balkar Arya  wrote:

> Dear All
> Terminalia chebula from Herbal Garden Samalkha Panipat
> Cultivated pics on 28-6-11
> No flowers fruits seen
> Cultivated tree
>  Family: *Combretaceae*
> name written on signboard not valid
> pls validate
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>



-- 
Mrs. F. Abraham.
Principal,
La Martiniere Girls' College,
Lucknow 226001.


Fwd: [efloraofindia:76874] Re: Wild Flower for ID - 110811 - RK

2011-08-13 Thread ranjini kamath
Satish ji  I am forwarding this mail to you & the group.This is the only
time i have [ inadvertently] overlooked sending the name of the place.So
sorry for the inconvenience.This lapse will certainly not be repeated !:)
Regards


-- Forwarded message --
From: ranjini kamath 
Date: Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76726] Re: Wild Flower for ID - 110811 - RK
To: Mahadeswara 


I have always mentioned the place in all my earlier posts.This was
certainly a case of  oversight.This pic was taken in Los Altos,
California.I do apologise for the incovenience caused.
Regards

On 8/12/11, Mahadeswara  wrote:
> I fully endorse the opinion expressed by Dr. Gurcharan ji.  I think
> one should  follow the guidelines  and provide the details indicated
> by him. This would help identification easy for the experts.  I for
> one would like to emulate the  reporting by  Dr Singh ji, which is a
> model.
>
> On Aug 11, 7:26 pm, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
>> This is the typical problem we face in the process of identification. The
>> author has not even indicated the place where this plant is growing. I
>> would
>> request experts to please make efforts towards this end. Any plant for ID
>> should have some important details like Place, altitude, habitat, habit,
>> size of plant, size of leaves, size of flowers, etc.
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Tanay Bose 
wrote:
>> > Yes Duchesnea indica Gurcharan Ji uploaded this plant
>> > from Kashmir about a month or so back
>> > Tanay
>> > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Mahadeswara 
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> Duchesnea indica  (Mock strawberry ,Indian strawberry, )
>>
>> >> On Aug 11, 11:31 am, ranjini kamath  wrote:
>> >> > Request ID of this flower.Regret i have only one clear pic of
>> >> > this.The
>> >> > flower is about 1cm across & is seen in the background in the 2nd
>> >> > pic.Taken in March-April 2011.Thank you
>> >> >   Ranjini Kamath
>>
>> >> >  IMG_8622-ph.jpg
>> >> > 144KViewDownload
>>
>> >> >  IMG_8989-ph2.jpg
>> >> > 153KViewDownload
>>
>> > --
>> > *Tanay Bose*
>> > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
>> > Department of Botany.
>> > University of British Columbia .
>> > 3529-6270 University Blvd.
>> > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
>> > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
>> >604-822-2019 (Lab)
>> >604-822-6089  (Fax)
>> > ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
>> > *Webpages:*
>> >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
>> >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
>> >https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/


Re: [efloraofindia:76875] Re: Flora of Kaiga ID PLEASE 09082011 PJ2

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Mohan ji

L. indica is usually a shrub less than 4 m tall, whereas L. speciosa is a
tree up to 8 m tall; leaves of former are almost sessile (petiole barely 0.5
mm), shorter rarely exceeding 7 cm whereas in latter petiole is 5-9 mm long
and leaves 8-17 cm long; Hypanthium in former is 4-7 mm long not ribbed, in
latter 8-10 mm long and 12-ribbed.; calyx erect in fruit in former,
spreading in latter; petals are hardly 16-25 mm long in former, 32-35 mm
long in latter; capsule 10-12 mm in diam in former, 17-20 mm in latter.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Mohan V. Chunkath <
mohan.chunk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How does one distinguish between Lagerstroemia indica and L. speciosa?
> Thanks.
> Cheers,
> Mohan
>
> On Aug 9, 10:05 pm, Dr  Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
> > Yes this is Lagerstroemia speciosa (Family: Lythraceae)
> > Pankaj
> >
> > On Aug 9, 10:04 pm, Dr  Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Yes this is Lagerstroemia specios (Family: Lythraceae)
> > > Pankaj
> >
> > > On Aug 9, 9:31 pm, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> >
> > > > May be Lagerstroemia speciosa
> >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:49 PM, PUTTARAJU K <
> pakshirajka...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > > > Dear All,
> >
> > > > > Flora of Kaiga_ID_Please_09082011 PJ2.
> >
> > > > > Date/Time-: 25/05/11   -10:00
> >
> > > > > Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380
> mtrs
> >
> > > > > Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-   wild
> >
> > > > > Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Tree
> >
> > > > > Height/Length- 12m
> >
> > > > > With Regards,
> > > > > PUTTARAJU K,
> > > > > SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
> > > > > KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
> > > > > POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
> > > > > KARNATAKA -581400
> > > > > MOB : 9448999150
> > > > > EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
> > > > >  kputtar...@npcil.co.in
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards
> >
> > > > Dr Balkar Singh
> > > > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > > > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > > > Haryana-132103
> > > > 09416262964
>


[efloraofindia:76883] Re: Oroxylum indicum [Tetu] pods emerging

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini
Young pods are eaten in SE Asia  like Thailand  too! !

AND NEIL: wonderful to see the steps in its life story

thanks for taking and sharing the pictures...

Usha di
===


On Aug 13, 10:21 am, Vijayasankar  wrote:
> Thanks Dr. Neil for the response.
> Just thought of sharing some facts...for those who may be interested...
>
> * It is a monotypic genus (meaning...the genus *Oroxylum *is represented by
> only a single species in the world and it is *O. indicum*)
> * It is a Red Listed Species (the species is facing risk owing to
> over-harvesting and habitat loss)
> * Though distributed across India, it is sporadic in nature and only
> solitary or few trees seen here and there. but only recently we, from FRLHT,
> found a large population (in thousands :) in the central Indian region.
> * we all know it is one of the ten ingredients (roots) in the 'dasamoola
> arishtam', an ayurvedic formulation.
> * young pods are cooked and eaten as vegetable in Manipur (may be in other
> NE Indian states, too), and are sold in vegetable markets here...
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Neil Soares wrote:
>
> > Thanks Dr.Balkar & Dr.Vijayasankar,
> >         The few pedicels which appear to have lost their flowers, had
> > actually flowered, been pollinated, dropped off in the morning and were
> > lying on the ground, but inadvertently forgot to photograph them.
> >                           Regards,
> >                            Neil Soares.
>
> > --- On *Sat, 8/13/11, Balkar Arya * wrote:
>
> > From: Balkar Arya 
> > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76804] Oroxylum indicum [Tetu] pods emerging
> > To: "Vijayasankar" 
> > Cc: "Neil Soares" , indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 7:15 AM
>
> > Nice pics Neil Ji
>
> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Vijayasankar 
> > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > Very interesting! Looks like the bats have done their job even before the
> > flowers open fully..! Or is it b'cos some other visitor found a short-cut
> > route to rob the nectar?!!
> > Its nice to see the rising of new fruits. But few pedicels have lost their
> > flowers...any idea why??
>
> > Regards
>
> > Vijayasankar Raman
> > National Center for Natural Products Research
> > University of Mississippi
>
> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Neil Soares 
> > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> >   Hi,
> >  Thought this might be interesting. Photographed at my farm last
> > Sundayafter successful pollination by batsTetu pods emerging.
> >                     Regards,
> >                       Neil Soares.
>
> > --
> > Regards
>
> > Dr Balkar Singh
> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > Haryana-132103
> > 09416262964


[efloraofindia:76889] Re: Wild Flower for ID - 110811 - RK

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini
This is a group that is very sincere and has experts who go out of
their way to help botanists, taxonomists and non-botanist, non-
scientists alike without any demur...   I love it..

and hence it bothers me that some members take it for granted that no
matter how little they send, they are bound to get  an id ... so why
bother?



Yes, I think its carelessness or thinking that this is magic where no
matter what one sends, how little one sends, there will be experts who
will identify... so why bother may be we should have a rule ...
that no details ... no diagnosis... its  not like its the emergency
room where if we don't do any diagnosis a patient may loose life or
limb...   may be we need stricter rules?

Such submission also makes a mockery of group's rules, that you and
Mr. Garg send out so repeatedly...

It makes a mockery of efforts of those sincere folks who spend time
and effort... of  those of us who spend  a great deal of time to
submit the formatted info and good  sharp pictures with flower, leaf
(front and back if possible), size ...verbal or measure- tape in
picture along with flower or fruit,  stem, bark, tree or shrub or herb
as a whole whenever possible, and I even take pictures of surrounding
habitat if the specimen is wild and not planted in a planned garden or
forest...

Usha di...



On Aug 11, 7:26 pm, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> This is the typical problem we face in the process of identification. The
> author has not even indicated the place where this plant is growing. I would
> request experts to please make efforts towards this end. Any plant for ID
> should have some important details like Place, altitude, habitat, habit,
> size of plant, size of leaves, size of flowers, etc.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Tanay Bose  wrote:
> > Yes Duchesnea indica Gurcharan Ji uploaded this plant
> > from Kashmir about a month or so back
> > Tanay
> > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Mahadeswara  wrote:
>
> >> Duchesnea indica  (Mock strawberry ,Indian strawberry, )
>
> >> On Aug 11, 11:31 am, ranjini kamath  wrote:
> >> > Request ID of this flower.Regret i have only one clear pic of this.The
> >> > flower is about 1cm across & is seen in the background in the 2nd
> >> > pic.Taken in March-April 2011.Thank you
> >> >   Ranjini Kamath
>
> >> >  IMG_8622-ph.jpg
> >> > 144KViewDownload
>
> >> >  IMG_8989-ph2.jpg
> >> > 153KViewDownload
>
> > --
> > *Tanay Bose*
> > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> > Department of Botany.
> > University of British Columbia .
> > 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> >            604-822-2019 (Lab)
> >            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> > ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
> > *Webpages:*
> >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
> >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
> >https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/


[efloraofindia:76891] Re: Please identify this Coral fungus

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini

TANAY or Muthu ji: can one of you, either or or both post pic of the
microscopic slides ... of a cross section and the fruiting body of
thises two fungii if you have them>

thanks Usha di




=
On Aug 13, 10:53 am, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
> yes yes Tanayji.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Tanay Bose  wrote:
> > Muthu you are correct this is  *Pterula multifida*
> > I think you remeber many months you posted
> > this fungi and I identified it for you.
>
> > Tanay
>
> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
>
> >> Please check for *Pterula multifida *or allied.
>
> >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Neil Soares wrote:
>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>  Photographed at my farm last Sunday. Over the last few years have
> >>> observed these fungi encircling the bases of Carvanda [Carissa congesta]
> >>> bushes.
> >>>  Please note that fallen leaves and other debri have been cleared to take
> >>> these photographs.
> >>>                    Thanks,
> >>>                                          Regards,
> >>>                                            Neil Soares.
>
> >> --
> >> Muthu Karthick, N
> >> Care Earth Trust
> >> #15, second main road,
> >> Thillai ganga nagar,
> >> Chennai - 600 061
> >> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> >>www.careearthtrust.org
>
> > --
> > *Tanay Bose*
> > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> > Department of Botany.
> > University of British Columbia .
> > 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> >            604-822-2019 (Lab)
> >            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> > ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
> > *Webpages:*
> >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
> >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
> >https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
>
> --
> Muthu Karthick, N
> Care Earth Trust
> #15, second main road,
> Thillai ganga nagar,
> Chennai - 600 061
> Mob: 0091 96268 33911www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:76894] Flora of Panipat: Dichrostachys cinerea from A Nursery in Panipat haryana

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Nice one Balkar ji


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Balkar Arya  wrote:

> Dear All
> Dichrostachys cinerea
> from a Nursery in Panipat Haryana (220Mts)
> Cultivated shrub
> leaves bipinnate leaves, Stem Thorny
> Family Mimosaceae
> Pls validate
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>


Re: [efloraofindia:76895] Flora of Panipat: Dichrostachys cinerea from A Nursery in Panipat haryana

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
Thanks Sir

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> Nice one Balkar ji
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Balkar Arya  wrote:
>
>> Dear All
>> Dichrostachys cinerea
>> from a Nursery in Panipat Haryana (220Mts)
>> Cultivated shrub
>> leaves bipinnate leaves, Stem Thorny
>> Family Mimosaceae
>> Pls validate
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Dr Balkar Singh
>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>> Haryana-132103
>> 09416262964
>>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


[efloraofindia:76897] Re: Wild Flower for ID - 110811 - RK

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Ushadi

I can really understand your love for the group, and concern that members
(especially new ones) become more disciplined and provide information as per
the format. Although it is often difficult to resist the temptation of
providing Id if you know the name, but perhaps the things will improve if
experts tell the concerned member to provide details before (or at least
after) identification. This only will compel members (who as you wrote who
take things for granted) to provide necessary details.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Ushadi micromini  wrote:

> This is a group that is very sincere and has experts who go out of
> their way to help botanists, taxonomists and non-botanist, non-
> scientists alike without any demur...   I love it..
>
> and hence it bothers me that some members take it for granted that no
> matter how little they send, they are bound to get  an id ... so why
> bother?
>
>
>
> Yes, I think its carelessness or thinking that this is magic where no
> matter what one sends, how little one sends, there will be experts who
> will identify... so why bother may be we should have a rule ...
> that no details ... no diagnosis... its  not like its the emergency
> room where if we don't do any diagnosis a patient may loose life or
> limb...   may be we need stricter rules?
>
> Such submission also makes a mockery of group's rules, that you and
> Mr. Garg send out so repeatedly...
>
> It makes a mockery of efforts of those sincere folks who spend time
> and effort... of  those of us who spend  a great deal of time to
> submit the formatted info and good  sharp pictures with flower, leaf
> (front and back if possible), size ...verbal or measure- tape in
> picture along with flower or fruit,  stem, bark, tree or shrub or herb
> as a whole whenever possible, and I even take pictures of surrounding
> habitat if the specimen is wild and not planted in a planned garden or
> forest...
>
> Usha di...
>
>
>
> On Aug 11, 7:26 pm, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> > This is the typical problem we face in the process of identification. The
> > author has not even indicated the place where this plant is growing. I
> would
> > request experts to please make efforts towards this end. Any plant for ID
> > should have some important details like Place, altitude, habitat, habit,
> > size of plant, size of leaves, size of flowers, etc.
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired  Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Tanay Bose 
> wrote:
> > > Yes Duchesnea indica Gurcharan Ji uploaded this plant
> > > from Kashmir about a month or so back
> > > Tanay
> > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Mahadeswara 
> wrote:
> >
> > >> Duchesnea indica  (Mock strawberry ,Indian strawberry, )
> >
> > >> On Aug 11, 11:31 am, ranjini kamath  wrote:
> > >> > Request ID of this flower.Regret i have only one clear pic of
> this.The
> > >> > flower is about 1cm across & is seen in the background in the 2nd
> > >> > pic.Taken in March-April 2011.Thank you
> > >> >   Ranjini Kamath
> >
> > >> >  IMG_8622-ph.jpg
> > >> > 144KViewDownload
> >
> > >> >  IMG_8989-ph2.jpg
> > >> > 153KViewDownload
> >
> > > --
> > > *Tanay Bose*
> > > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> > > Department of Botany.
> > > University of British Columbia .
> > > 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> > > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> > > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> > >604-822-2019 (Lab)
> > >604-822-6089  (Fax)
> > > ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
> > > *Webpages:*
> > >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
> > >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
> > >https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
>


Re: [efloraofindia:76898] Re: Fruits & Vegetables week: Momordica dioica from Delhi

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Balkar ji
You have got the perfect series. Let us now think what the other plant is
which at least three members thought M. dioica but I considered Cucumis
sativus. I will activate that thread again.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Balkar Arya  wrote:

> I think these are also same
> from Panipat, wild, growing near railway line
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Dinesh Valke wrote:
>
>> fruits & vegetables :: NATIVE, WILD :: Cucurbitaceae » Momordica dioica
>>
>>
>> Cucurbitaceae (pumpkin, or gourd family) » *Momordica dioica*
>>
>>
>> *mo-MOR-di-ka* -- from the word to bite, reference to the seeds which
>> look bitten
>> *dy-oh-EE-kuh* -- male and female flowers on separate plants
>>
>>
>> *commonly known as*: bristly balsam-pear, prickly carolaho, spine gourd,
>> teasle gourd • Assamese: avandhya, bhat-kerela • Bengali: bhat korola, ghee
>> korola, kankrol • Gujarati: katwal • Hindi: बन करेला ban karela • Kannada:
>> karchi-balli, madahagala gadde • Konkani: फागिल phagil • Malayalam:
>> ben-pavel, erimapasel • Marathi: करटोली kartoli • Rajasthani: bara -karela,
>> kankera, kankoda • Sanskrit: कर्कोटकी karkotaki, कर्कोटी karkoti • Tamil:
>> மெழுகுபாகல் meluku-pakal, பழுபாகல் palu-pakal • Telugu: అడవికాకర
>> adavikakara, ఆకాకర akakara
>>
>>
>> *Native to*: south-east Asia
>>
>>
>> *Edible use (WILD)*:
>>
>>> ... ripe fruit (as FRUIT) eaten ... unripe fruit (as vegetable) ...Purdue
>>> University
>>> ... the fruits are fried and sometimes eaten with meat or fish ...
>>> Wikipedia 
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>


Re: [efloraofindia:76899] Re: Fruits & Vegetables week: Momordica dioica from Delhi

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
Thanks Sir

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> Yes Balkar ji
> You have got the perfect series. Let us now think what the other plant is
> which at least three members thought M. dioica but I considered Cucumis
> sativus. I will activate that thread again.
>
>
> --
>
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Balkar Arya  wrote:
>
>> I think these are also same
>> from Panipat, wild, growing near railway line
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Dinesh Valke wrote:
>>
>>> fruits & vegetables :: NATIVE, WILD :: Cucurbitaceae » Momordica dioica
>>>
>>>
>>> Cucurbitaceae (pumpkin, or gourd family) » *Momordica dioica*
>>>
>>>
>>> *mo-MOR-di-ka* -- from the word to bite, reference to the seeds which
>>> look bitten
>>> *dy-oh-EE-kuh* -- male and female flowers on separate plants
>>>
>>>
>>> *commonly known as*: bristly balsam-pear, prickly carolaho, spine gourd,
>>> teasle gourd • Assamese: avandhya, bhat-kerela • Bengali: bhat korola, ghee
>>> korola, kankrol • Gujarati: katwal • Hindi: बन करेला ban karela • Kannada:
>>> karchi-balli, madahagala gadde • Konkani: फागिल phagil • Malayalam:
>>> ben-pavel, erimapasel • Marathi: करटोली kartoli • Rajasthani: bara -karela,
>>> kankera, kankoda • Sanskrit: कर्कोटकी karkotaki, कर्कोटी karkoti • Tamil:
>>> மெழுகுபாகல் meluku-pakal, பழுபாகல் palu-pakal • Telugu: అడవికాకర
>>> adavikakara, ఆకాకర akakara
>>>
>>>
>>> *Native to*: south-east Asia
>>>
>>>
>>> *Edible use (WILD)*:
>>>
 ... ripe fruit (as FRUIT) eaten ... unripe fruit (as vegetable) ...Purdue
 University
 ... the fruits are fried and sometimes eaten with meat or fish ...
 Wikipedia 

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Dr Balkar Singh
>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>> Haryana-132103
>> 09416262964
>>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:76900] identification no 120811sn1

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
After going through the thread on M. dioica with uploads by me, Dinesh ji
and Balkar ji today, I am feel that above plant is Cucumis sativus. Your
comments on this please.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:01 PM, H S  wrote:

> male and female plant are different i guess
>
> regards,
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>
>> Perhaps either I am confused or you three. Firstly the leaves in M. dioica
>> are deeply lobed and secondly the corolla is deeply divided nearly up to the
>> base.
>>
>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86650&flora_id=5
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/40975182@N03/3781744682/
>>
>> To me this plant looks like   Cucumis sativus
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:47 PM, H S  wrote:
>>
>>> yes, M. dioica
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Tanay Bose wrote:
>>>
 I think you are correct
 Tanay


 On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Satish Nikam 
 wrote:

> Dear All,
>  Is it Momordica dioica?Taken at Mulshi,Pune in
> Aug.11.Kindly validate.
> thanks
> regards
> satish nikam
>
>
>



 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/



>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>  - H.S.
>>>
>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart
>>> of stone
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>


[efloraofindia:76901] Re: Flora of Panipat: Terminalia Chebula from herbal Garden Panipat (Samalkha)

2011-08-13 Thread Samir Mehta
Gurcharan ji,

Would like to purchase your book. What is it's name / title?
Where will I find it in Mumbai?
Also, is a new edition likely / not likely in next 6-8 months.

Regards,

Samir




On Aug 13, 10:51 am, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> Balkar ji
> Differences between Madhuca and Terminalia chebula whose leaves can be
> confused are well illustrated in Pradip Kishan in Trees of Delhi. My book is
> in Delhi, if you have it handy, it will help you a lot. The primary
> difference is number of lateral veins.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> > May Be Sir but the person from that herbal garden were saying that it is
> > Harad not bahera. Initially after seeing the label of plant ie Termialia
> > tinctoria i got confused and when enquired they said we dont know scientific
> > name but it is Badi harad( Large harad) so i wrote T chebula.
>
> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Vijayasankar 
> > wrote:
>
> >> Nice pictures, Balkar ji, I think you wanted to type T. bellirica...
>
> >> Regards
>
> >> Vijayasankar Raman
> >> National Center for Natural Products Research
> >> University of Mississippi
>
> >> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Balkar Arya wrote:
>
> >>> Dear All
> >>> Terminalia chebula from Herbal Garden Samalkha Panipat
> >>> Cultivated pics on 28-6-11
> >>> No flowers fruits seen
> >>> Cultivated tree
> >>>  Family: *Combretaceae*
> >>> name written on signboard not valid
> >>> pls validate
> >>> --
> >>> Regards
>
> >>> Dr Balkar Singh
> >>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> >>> Arya P G College, Panipat
> >>> Haryana-132103
> >>> 09416262964
>
> > --
> > Regards
>
> > Dr Balkar Singh
> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > Haryana-132103
> > 09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:76903] efloraofindia 786543 Passion flower creeper at PUNE

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
*Passiflora incarnata*

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Madhuri Raut  wrote:

> Dear all,
> I would like to share the pictures of Passion flower creeper in my garden
>
> Date13/08/2011 time 4.00pm
> Location  District Pune ;State :Maharashtra
>
> Habitat- Garden
>
> Plant Habit-  Climber
>
> Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-beautiful purple flowers
>
> Other Information like Fragrance Wonderful sweet fragrance
>
> Regards
> Bhagyashri
>



-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


[efloraofindia:76904] Flora of Panipat: Amaranthus viridis from Arya PG College Campus Panipat Haryana

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
Dear All
Amaranthus viridis
Wild herb growing in garden of Arya P G College Panipat (220 mts)
pics on 25-6-11
about 1-1.5 feet high

-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:76906] efloraofindia 786543 Passion flower creeper at PUNE

2011-08-13 Thread Madhuri Raut
This is also called "Krishnakamal" in Marathi
regards
Bhagyashri

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Balkar Arya  wrote:

> *Passiflora incarnata*
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Madhuri Raut  wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>> I would like to share the pictures of Passion flower creeper in my garden
>>
>> Date13/08/2011 time 4.00pm
>> Location  District Pune ;State :Maharashtra
>>
>> Habitat- Garden
>>
>> Plant Habit-  Climber
>>
>> Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-beautiful purple flowers
>>
>> Other Information like Fragrance Wonderful sweet fragrance
>>
>> Regards
>> Bhagyashri
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>


[efloraofindia:76910] Re: Does this variety fruit?

2011-08-13 Thread Mahadeswara
 Your photograph is a proof that the plant flowers.   The question you
might be asking is :  where(in which place)?

On Aug 13, 5:01 pm, Marianne de Nazareth 
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does this variety of the Passion Flower fruit?
>
> regds,
>
> Marianne
>
> --
>
> Former Asst. Editor The Deccan Herald
> Freelance Journalist
> Adjunct faculty St. Joseph's College & 
> COMMITShttp://mariannedenazareth.blogspot.com/
>
>  Red Passion fruit flowerCIMG2877.JPG
> 1805KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76911] Re: Abutilon theophrasti from Kashmir

2011-08-13 Thread Mahadeswara
Nice photographs and best description of the plant.

On Aug 13, 4:32 pm, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> *Abutilon theophrasti* Medic, Malv. 28. 1787.
> Syn: *Abutilon avicennae* Gaertn
>
> Common names: *Velvetleaf*, *China Jute*, *Buttonweed*, *Butterprint*, *
> Pie-marker* or *Indian Mallow*
> *
> *
> *Annual herb up to 2 m tall, velutinous; leaves broadly ovate to orbicular,
> deeply cordate at base, crenulate-denticulate, up to 20 cm, on often up to
> 20 cm long petiole, velutinous-stellate hairy on both surfaces; flowers
> yellow, in few flowered racemes; calyx 1 cm, parted up to middle, lobes
> ovate-lanceolate; petals about 1.2 cm long; ovary villous; fruit 15-20 mm
> broad, mericarps 13-30, velvety, with horizontal 3-4 mm long awns.*
> *
> *
> *Photographed from Botanical Garden below Cheshmashahi in Kashmir on August
> 6, 2011*
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>  Abutilon-theophrastii-Botanical garden-Kashmir-1.jpg
> 703KViewDownload
>
>  Abutilon-theophrastii-Botanical garden-Kashmir-2.jpg
> 182KViewDownload
>
>  Abutilon-theophrastii-Botanical garden-Kashmir-3.jpg
> 179KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76912] Re: efloraofindia 786543 Passion flower creeper at PUNE

2011-08-13 Thread Mahadeswara
Beautiful photographs.

On Aug 13, 3:45 pm, Madhuri Raut  wrote:
> Dear all,
> I would like to share the pictures of Passion flower creeper in my garden
>
> Date        13/08/2011 time 4.00pm
> Location  District Pune ;State :Maharashtra
>
> Habitat- Garden
>
> Plant Habit-  Climber
>
> Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-beautiful purple flowers
>
> Other Information like Fragrance Wonderful sweet fragrance
>
> Regards
> Bhagyashri
>
>  k3.jpg
> 596KViewDownload
>
>  k1.jpg
> 509KViewDownload
>
>  k2.jpg
> 478KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76913] Re: Strangler fig - Dandeli WLS

2011-08-13 Thread Mahadeswara
Please send closeups of the plants/ trees, if ID is needed.
Furthermore, please follow the guidelines of eflora by providing
details of the plant.

On Aug 13, 2:33 pm, Raptor Conservation 
wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> Strangler fig in Dandeli. Not sure what the host tree is!
>  
> Best regards,
> Dr.Pranay Rao Juvvadi,
> General Secretary, Raptor Conservation Foundation,
> 1-10-63/4, Chikoti Gardens , Begumpet,
> Hyderabad-500 016,
> Andhra Pradesh, India .
> Mobile No: (091) 9866978785
> Email: raptorconse...@yahoo.com 
>
>  Strangler Fig 1.jpg
> 243KViewDownload
>
>  Strangler Fig 2.jpg
> 312KViewDownload
>
>  Strangler Fig 3.jpg
> 309KViewDownload
>
>  Strangler Fig 4.jpg
> 302KViewDownload
>
>  Strangler Fig 5.jpg
> 340KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76914] Re: Unidentified tree - Anshi NP

2011-08-13 Thread Mahadeswara
Based on the photograph of the trunk  it is generally not possible to
identify the taxa.   One should always send the closeups of foliage,
flowers, fruits (whatever available) and details of the plant for ID.
You may also follow the guidelines of eflora while posting the plants
for ID.

On Aug 13, 2:26 pm, Raptor Conservation 
wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> Is this Dipterocarpus indicus? Sorry I do not have pictures of the leaves.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Dr.Pranay Rao Juvvadi,
> General Secretary, Raptor Conservation Foundation,
> 1-10-63/4, Chikoti Gardens , Begumpet,
> Hyderabad-500 016,
> Andhra Pradesh, India .
> Mobile No: (091) 9866978785
> Email: raptorconse...@yahoo.com
>
>  ID 3a.jpg
> 219KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76915] Re: Need tree ID - Dandeli

2011-08-13 Thread Mahadeswara
Your photographs donot help the experts to identify the taxa!

On Aug 13, 2:19 pm, Raptor Conservation 
wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> Came across this huge tree in Dandeli. Unfortunately I do not have any 
> pictures of the leaves.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Dr.Pranay Rao Juvvadi,
> General Secretary, Raptor Conservation Foundation,
> 1-10-63/4, Chikoti Gardens , Begumpet,
> Hyderabad-500 016,
> Andhra Pradesh, India .
> Mobile No: (091) 9866978785
> Email: raptorconse...@yahoo.com 
>
>  ID 2a.jpg
> 295KViewDownload
>
>  ID 2b.jpg
> 218KViewDownload
>
>  ID 2c.jpg
> 302KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76916] Re: Flora of Panipat: Croton bonplandianus Baill from Herbal garden samalkha Panipat

2011-08-13 Thread Mahadeswara
A common weed in Mysore.  Which is the valid name C.bonplandianus or
the Croton sparsiflorus

On Aug 13, 11:57 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> Dear All
> *Croton* *bonplandianus* Baill
> From Herbal garden samalkha Panipat
> Growing wildly, about 2 feet high herb
> family Euphorbiaceae
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
>  Croton sparsiflorus (1).JPG
> 169KViewDownload
>
>  Croton sparsiflorus (2).JPG
> 250KViewDownload
>
>  Croton sparsiflorus (3).JPG
> 182KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76917] Re: Need tree ID - Dandeli

2011-08-13 Thread Smilax004

None of the characters that leads to even guess to id the plant are
not available from the pictures posted here. Please upload pictures of
leaves flowers or fruits/twigs, if available.

Regards,
Giby




On Aug 13, 5:25 pm, Mahadeswara  wrote:
> Your photographs donot help the experts to identify the taxa!
>
> On Aug 13, 2:19 pm, Raptor Conservation 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >  
> > Came across this huge tree in Dandeli. Unfortunately I do not have any 
> > pictures of the leaves.
> >  
> >  
> > Best regards,
> > Dr.Pranay Rao Juvvadi,
> > General Secretary, Raptor Conservation Foundation,
> > 1-10-63/4, Chikoti Gardens , Begumpet,
> > Hyderabad-500 016,
> > Andhra Pradesh, India .
> > Mobile No: (091) 9866978785
> > Email: raptorconse...@yahoo.com 
>
> >  ID 2a.jpg
> > 295KViewDownload
>
> >  ID 2b.jpg
> > 218KViewDownload
>
> >  ID 2c.jpg
> > 302KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76918] Re: Unidentified tree - Anshi NP

2011-08-13 Thread Smilax004

It is surely not Dipterocarpus but my wild guess for stands for
Diospyros sp.

But, as Mahadeswara Ji pointed out, guessing from such pictures would
not be correct and mostly mislead hence please upload pictures that
has details such as twigs with leaves, flowers, fruits etc.

please search for leaves on the ground beneath the tree. Compare the
leaves that is on the ground with the one on the tree by using a
binocular or taking a zoomed picture (further zooming will help you id
the correct leaf that you could collect from the ground).



Regards,
Giby



On Aug 13, 2:26 pm, Raptor Conservation 
wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> Is this Dipterocarpus indicus? Sorry I do not have pictures of the leaves.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Dr.Pranay Rao Juvvadi,
> General Secretary, Raptor Conservation Foundation,
> 1-10-63/4, Chikoti Gardens , Begumpet,
> Hyderabad-500 016,
> Andhra Pradesh, India .
> Mobile No: (091) 9866978785
> Email: raptorconse...@yahoo.com
>
>  ID 3a.jpg
> 219KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:76919] Re: Does this variety fruit?

2011-08-13 Thread ajinkya gadave
Passiflora coccinea

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Mahadeswara  wrote:

>  Your photograph is a proof that the plant flowers.   The question you
> might be asking is :  where(in which place)?
>
> On Aug 13, 5:01 pm, Marianne de Nazareth 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does this variety of the Passion Flower fruit?
> >
> > regds,
> >
> > Marianne
> >
> > --
> >
> > Former Asst. Editor The Deccan Herald
> > Freelance Journalist
> > Adjunct faculty St. Joseph's College & COMMITShttp://
> mariannedenazareth.blogspot.com/
> >
> >  Red Passion fruit flowerCIMG2877.JPG
> > 1805KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:76920] identification no 120811sn1

2011-08-13 Thread Dinesh Valke
... yes Gurcharan ji for *Cucumis sativus*.
Regards.
Dinesh


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> After going through the thread on M. dioica with uploads by me, Dinesh ji
> and Balkar ji today, I am feel that above plant is Cucumis sativus. Your
> comments on this please.
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:01 PM, H S  wrote:
>
>> male and female plant are different i guess
>>
>> regards,
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps either I am confused or you three. Firstly the leaves in M.
>>> dioica are deeply lobed and secondly the corolla is deeply divided nearly up
>>> to the base.
>>>
>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86650&flora_id=5
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/40975182@N03/3781744682/
>>>
>>> To me this plant looks like   Cucumis sativus
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:47 PM, H S  wrote:
>>>
 yes, M. dioica


 On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Tanay Bose wrote:

> I think you are correct
> Tanay
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Satish Nikam 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>  Is it Momordica dioica?Taken at Mulshi,Pune in
>> Aug.11.Kindly validate.
>> thanks
>> regards
>> satish nikam
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Tanay Bose*
> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> Department of Botany.
> University of British Columbia .
> 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
>604-822-2019 (Lab)
>604-822-6089  (Fax)
> ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
> *Webpages:*
> http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
> http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
>
>
>


 --
  - H.S.

 A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart
 of stone


>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  - H.S.
>>
>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
>> stone
>>
>>
>
>
>


[efloraofindia:76921] Re: Plant for identification 130811MK01

2011-08-13 Thread Mahadeswara
Roots of  Boerhavia diffusa of Nictaginaceae,commonly known as
punarnava in Sanskrit, an important medicinal plant in ayurveda and
unani. The plant has medicinal properties especially roots which
are used to treat gonorrhea, all internal inflammation and edema.
Roots stimulate the emptying of the gallbladder, as a diuretic, for
all types of liver disorders (including jaundice and hepatitis),
gallbladder pain and stones, urinary tract disorders, renal disorders,
kidney stones, cystitis, and nephritis.
This is a wild / common weed.  In fact plenty are growing around my
house in Mysore.

On Aug 13, 11:21 am, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
> Dear all,
> Please help to identify this species. This root has been traded medicinally
> in Dindigul and Madurai district of Tamil Nadu in an optimal quantity. I
> can't ascertain the species by seeing only the root part. This is not so
> much aromatic but just a soil+root smell. I have seen the width of this up
> to an inch. People say this is a sort of trailing (or climber) plant (kodi
> in Tamil); sorry I have not went in to the field to confirm. First picture
> taken in Feb 2008 and the last two on first week of May 2011.
> I suspect this could be a species of *Boerhavia* sp. Is this possible,
> kindly help me to resolve?
>
> Local name in Tamil: Saranathi
>
> --
> Muthu Karthick, N
> Care Earth Trust
> #15, second main road,
> Thillai ganga nagar,
> Chennai - 600 061
> Mob: 0091 96268 33911www.careearthtrust.org
>
>  Saranatthi root.JPG
> 158KViewDownload
>
>  Q 152.jpg
> 225KViewDownload
>
>  Q 151.jpg
> 211KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76922] Re: Flora of Panipat: Hibiscus schizopetalus from Arya PG College Campus Panipat Haryana

2011-08-13 Thread Mahadeswara
Very common garden plant in Chennai.

On Aug 13, 10:41 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> Dear all
> Hibiscus schizopetalus
> Large Garden cultivated Shrub arround 5 ft high
> pics on 7-8-11
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
>  Hibiscus schizopetalus (1)Sm.JPG
> 119KViewDownload
>
>  Hibiscus schizopetalus (2)Sm.JPG
> 131KViewDownload
>
>  Hibiscus schizopetalus (3)Sm.JPG
> 194KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76923] Re: Strangler fig - Dandeli WLS

2011-08-13 Thread Smilax004
More than 23 species of Ficus has been recorded from the Western
Ghats. Most of them start their life as straggler because the get
dispersed by birds and germinate on the branches of trees.

Unless you get the close up of at least the leaves with petiole where
you can clearly see the venation, characteristics of fig is also
important to confirm the species. Sometimes you need the fig in hand
and dissect to see characters hidden inside the fig.


Regards
Giby




On Aug 13, 2:33 pm, Raptor Conservation 
wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> Strangler fig in Dandeli. Not sure what the host tree is!
>  
> Best regards,
> Dr.Pranay Rao Juvvadi,
> General Secretary, Raptor Conservation Foundation,
> 1-10-63/4, Chikoti Gardens , Begumpet,
> Hyderabad-500 016,
> Andhra Pradesh, India .
> Mobile No: (091) 9866978785
> Email: raptorconse...@yahoo.com 
>
>  Strangler Fig 1.jpg
> 243KViewDownload
>
>  Strangler Fig 2.jpg
> 312KViewDownload
>
>  Strangler Fig 3.jpg
> 309KViewDownload
>
>  Strangler Fig 4.jpg
> 302KViewDownload
>
>  Strangler Fig 5.jpg
> 340KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76924] Re: Id Required

2011-08-13 Thread J.M. Garg
A reply:
"Pratia montana
--
Dr. M.K. Pathak
Botanical Survey of India
P.O.: Botanic Garden
Howrah - 711 103
W.B. INDIA"

Thanks a lot, Dr. Pathak.
On 13 August 2011 10:49, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding for Id assistance please.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Animish Mandrekar 
> Date: 12 August 2011 23:56
> Subject: Id Required
> To: "J.M. Garg" 
>
>
> I shot this fruiting plant in Eaglenest WLS Arunachal Pradesh in Nov 2008,
> Could please id this plant for me?
>
> --
> Animish Mandrekar
> Address: 304, Dattatray Bhavan,
>   Eksar Road, Borivli (West),
>   Mumbai-400 103
> Tel.: (022) 28914101
> Email: nightj...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* &
> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
> alphabetically & place-wise):
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them
> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1680 members &
> 75,000 messages on 31/7/11) or Efloraofindia website:
> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of
> around 5000 species)
>
>


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Re: [efloraofindia:76925] Need ID - Anshi NP

2011-08-13 Thread manudev madhavan
please follow the guidelines..
Give more details

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Raptor Conservation <
raptorconse...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Not sure what this tree is! Any help is much appreciated.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Dr.Pranay Rao Juvvadi,
> General Secretary, Raptor Conservation Foundation,
> 1-10-63/4, Chikoti Gardens , Begumpet,
> Hyderabad-500 016,
> Andhra Pradesh, India .
> Mobile No: (091) 9866978785
> Email: 
> raptorconse...@yahoo.com
>
>
>


-- 
*Manudev K Madhavan*
Junior Research Fellow
Systematic & Floristic Lab,
Department of Botany,
Centre for Postgraduate Studies & Research
St. Joseph's College, Devagiri
Kozhikode- 673 008
Mob: 9496470738


Re: [efloraofindia:76926] Re: Flora of Panipat: Croton bonplandianus Baill from Herbal garden samalkha Panipat

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Obviously C. bonplandianus Baill (1864) as against C. sparsiflorus Morong
(1893)
according to GRIN, The Plant List, *Balakrishnan, N. P. & T. Chakrabarty.*
 2007, *Govaerts, R. et al.* 2000


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Mahadeswara  wrote:

> A common weed in Mysore.  Which is the valid name C.bonplandianus or
> the Croton sparsiflorus
>
> On Aug 13, 11:57 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> > Dear All
> > *Croton* *bonplandianus* Baill
> > From Herbal garden samalkha Panipat
> > Growing wildly, about 2 feet high herb
> > family Euphorbiaceae
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Dr Balkar Singh
> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > Haryana-132103
> > 09416262964
> >
> >  Croton sparsiflorus (1).JPG
> > 169KViewDownload
> >
> >  Croton sparsiflorus (2).JPG
> > 250KViewDownload
> >
> >  Croton sparsiflorus (3).JPG
> > 182KViewDownload


Fwd: [efloraofindia:76927] to publish the artical in journal............

2011-08-13 Thread J.M. Garg
Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please.


-- Forwarded message --
From: prasanna gogate 
Date: 30 April 2011 06:37
Subject: [efloraofindia:68406] to publish the artical in journal
To: efloraofindia 


dear all,

i have done a work on the seeds of important specious, i have alrady send
some of these to well known journals. i think it takes long time to publish
and they do not reply about the date of publishing. please  suggest me name
of journal which don't have these problems. *please send me link of
confernces on biodiversity,medicinal plant,seed and environment. thank you
have a nice day*



-- 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
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[efloraofindia:76930] Re: Please identify this Coral fungus

2011-08-13 Thread Tanay Bose
Hi Usha Di,
Mushroom season is yet to come here in Canada.
So I cant help now. May be Muthu can enlighten
us.

Thanks
Tanay

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Ushadi micromini  wrote:

>
> TANAY or Muthu ji: can one of you, either or or both post pic of the
> microscopic slides ... of a cross section and the fruiting body of
> thises two fungii if you have them>
>
> thanks Usha di
>
>
>
>
> =
> On Aug 13, 10:53 am, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
> > yes yes Tanayji.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Tanay Bose 
> wrote:
> > > Muthu you are correct this is  *Pterula multifida*
> > > I think you remeber many months you posted
> > > this fungi and I identified it for you.
> >
> > > Tanay
> >
> > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Muthu Karthick 
> wrote:
> >
> > >> Please check for *Pterula multifida *or allied.
> >
> > >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Neil Soares  >wrote:
> >
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>  Photographed at my farm last Sunday. Over the last few years have
> > >>> observed these fungi encircling the bases of Carvanda [Carissa
> congesta]
> > >>> bushes.
> > >>>  Please note that fallen leaves and other debri have been cleared to
> take
> > >>> these photographs.
> > >>>Thanks,
> > >>>  Regards,
> > >>>Neil Soares.
> >
> > >> --
> > >> Muthu Karthick, N
> > >> Care Earth Trust
> > >> #15, second main road,
> > >> Thillai ganga nagar,
> > >> Chennai - 600 061
> > >> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> > >>www.careearthtrust.org
> >
> > > --
> > > *Tanay Bose*
> > > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> > > Department of Botany.
> > > University of British Columbia .
> > > 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> > > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> > > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> > >604-822-2019 (Lab)
> > >604-822-6089  (Fax)
> > > ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
> > > *Webpages:*
> > >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
> > >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
> > >https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
> >
> > --
> > Muthu Karthick, N
> > Care Earth Trust
> > #15, second main road,
> > Thillai ganga nagar,
> > Chennai - 600 061
> > Mob: 0091 96268 33911www.careearthtrust.org




-- 
*Tanay Bose*
Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
3529-6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
*Webpages:*
http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
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[efloraofindia:76931] Re: Higher Chamba - id al110811a

2011-08-13 Thread Alok
Thank you sir,
The spiny leaves were not a part of this observation... they just
happened to be growing there... the relevance was for the flowers and
the fruits and in the third photo the leaves of what you called
Phytolacca acinosawith...

Sorry for not acknowledging this earlier... it seems that sometimes
the messages do not appear in my e-mails.. but are only on the
forum

regards
Alok

On Aug 12, 6:44 am, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> Yes Phytolacca acinosawith spiny leaves of Cirsium
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Plant Diversity 
> wrote:
>
> > The flowers and fruit are of Phytolacca - the spiny leaves are
> > Asteraceae.
>
> > Alastair
> >http://www.facebook.com/PlantDiversity
>
> > On Aug 11, 6:10 pm, Alok Mahendroo  wrote:
> > > Dear friends,
>
> > > A beautiful shrub for id...
>
> > > Location Chamba
> > > Altitude 3000 mts
> > > Habit shrub
> > > Habitat wild
> > > Plant height 6 feet
>
> > > regards
> > > Alok
> > > --
> > > Himalayan Village Education Trust
> > > Village Khudgot,
> > > P.O. Dalhousie
> > > District Chamba
> > > H.P. 176304, India
>
> > >www.hivetrust.wordpress.comwww.forwildlife.wordpress.comhttp://
> > mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new...
>
> > >  073011_1281.jpg
> > > 115KViewDownload
>
> > >  073011_1284.jpg
> > > 233KViewDownload
>
> > >  073011_1286.jpg
> > > 258KViewDownload
>
>


[efloraofindia:76933] Re: Flora of Kaiga ID PLEASE 09082011 PJ2

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini

Thank you for so enumerating the points of distinction...
makes it very easy for me now.
Usha di
=
On Aug 13, 1:37 pm, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> Mohan ji
>
> L. indica is usually a shrub less than 4 m tall, whereas L. speciosa is a
> tree up to 8 m tall; leaves of former are almost sessile (petiole barely 0.5
> mm), shorter rarely exceeding 7 cm whereas in latter petiole is 5-9 mm long
> and leaves 8-17 cm long; Hypanthium in former is 4-7 mm long not ribbed, in
> latter 8-10 mm long and 12-ribbed.; calyx erect in fruit in former,
> spreading in latter; petals are hardly 16-25 mm long in former, 32-35 mm
> long in latter; capsule 10-12 mm in diam in former, 17-20 mm in latter.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Mohan V. Chunkath <
>
> mohan.chunk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > How does one distinguish between Lagerstroemia indica and L. speciosa?
> > Thanks.
> > Cheers,
> > Mohan
>
> > On Aug 9, 10:05 pm, Dr  Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
> > > Yes this is Lagerstroemia speciosa (Family: Lythraceae)
> > > Pankaj
>
> > > On Aug 9, 10:04 pm, Dr  Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
>
> > > > Yes this is Lagerstroemia specios (Family: Lythraceae)
> > > > Pankaj
>
> > > > On Aug 9, 9:31 pm, Balkar Arya  wrote:
>
> > > > > May be Lagerstroemia speciosa
>
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:49 PM, PUTTARAJU K <
> > pakshirajka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > Dear All,
>
> > > > > > Flora of Kaiga_ID_Please_09082011 PJ2.
>
> > > > > > Date/Time-: 25/05/11   -    10:00
>
> > > > > > Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380
> > mtrs
>
> > > > > > Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-   wild
>
> > > > > > Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Tree
>
> > > > > > Height/Length- 12m
>
> > > > > > With Regards,
> > > > > > PUTTARAJU K,
> > > > > > SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
> > > > > > KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
> > > > > > POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
> > > > > > KARNATAKA -581400
> > > > > > MOB : 9448999150
> > > > > > EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
> > > > > >              kputtar...@npcil.co.in
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Regards
>
> > > > > Dr Balkar Singh
> > > > > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > > > > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > > > > Haryana-132103
> > > > > 09416262964


[efloraofindia:76935] Re: Flora of Panipat: Cyamopsis tetragonolobus from a kitchen Garden Panipat haryana

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini
AN important vegetable for Rajasthan Gujarat and other western
states...
And Guar gum is very popular as thickening agent in cooked packed food
industry
and ice cream industree esp where caragenean may not be allowed ...

only problem is it has a lectin that does not suit blood group B gut
epithelium and red cells especially...


Thanks Balkar ji, I had never seen its flowers...

now will you be able to go back and follow up with the fruits later...

usha di
-


On Aug 13, 12:49 pm, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> Dear All
> Cyamopsis tetragonolobus
> From a kitchen garden Panipat
> Approx 4 feet high herb. Pods used as vegetables
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
>  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (1).JPG
> 261KViewDownload
>
>  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (2).JPG
> 266KViewDownload
>
>  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (3).JPG
> 163KViewDownload
>
>  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (4).JPG
> 201KViewDownload
>
>  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (5).JPG
> 229KViewDownload
>
>  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (6).JPG
> 157KViewDownload
>
>  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (7).JPG
> 151KViewDownload
>
>  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (8).JPG
> 143KViewDownload
>
>  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (9).JPG
> 135KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:76936] Flora of Panipat: Terminalia Chebula from herbal Garden Panipat (Samalkha)

2011-08-13 Thread Nayan Singh
yes this is Terminalia bellirica

Regards
Nayan.
.. 
N.S.Dungriyal IFS
Chief Conservator of Forests
and Field Director
Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad
M.P.
09424792100

From: Neil Soares 
To: Balkar Arya ; Gurcharan Singh 
Cc: Vijayasankar ; indiantreepix 

Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76856] Flora of Panipat: Terminalia Chebula from 
herbal Garden Panipat (Samalkha)

Hi,
 Agree with Dr.Vijayasankar. This is Terminalia bellirica.
  Regards,
    Neil Soares--- On Sat, 8/13/11, Gurcharan Singh 
 wrote:

>From: Gurcharan Singh 
>Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76832] Flora of Panipat: Terminalia Chebula from 
>herbal Garden Panipat (Samalkha)
>To: "Balkar Arya" 
>Cc: "Vijayasankar" , "indiantreepix" 
>
>Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 11:21 AM
>
>
>Balkar ji 
>Differences between Madhuca and Terminalia chebula whose leaves can be 
>confused are well illustrated in Pradip Kishan in Trees of Delhi. My book is 
>in Delhi, if you have it handy, it will help you a lot. The primary difference 
>is number of lateral veins.
>-- Dr. Gurcharan SinghRetired  Associate ProfessorSGTB Khalsa College, 
>University of Delhi, Delhi-110007Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New 
>Delhi-110018.Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 
>9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/  
>On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Balkar Arya  wrote: 
>May Be Sir but the person from that herbal garden were saying that it is Harad 
>not bahera. Initially after seeing the label of plant ie Termialia tinctoria i 
>got confused and when enquired they said we dont know scientific name but it 
>is Badi harad( Large harad) so i wrote T chebula. 
>>On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Vijayasankar  
>>wrote: 
>>Nice pictures, Balkar ji, I think you wanted to type T. bellirica...
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards  
>>>Vijayasankar Raman
>>>National Center for Natural Products Research
>>>University of Mississippi 
>>>On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Balkar Arya  wrote: 
>>>Dear All 
Terminalia chebula from Herbal Garden Samalkha Panipat
Cultivated pics on 28-6-11
No flowers fruits seen
Cultivated tree
 Family: Combretaceae 
name written on signboard not valid

pls validate-- Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964
-- RegardsDr Balkar SinghHead, Deptt. of Botany and BiotechnologyArya P G 
College, PanipatHaryana-13210309416262964 

[efloraofindia:76939] Re: Chamba higher reaches - id al110811

2011-08-13 Thread Alok
Dear Ushadi,
Thanks to Gurcharan ji for solving my confusion actually This
plant is growing all around in Kalatope too at an altitude of 2100 mts
too... the difference in inflorescence and the color of leaves kind of
fazed me...

Actually at the place where I found it (at 3000mts) this was the only
plant of this species I found... so I guess it might have some problem
propagating around there... maybe due to cold or whatever reason...
but as for pollination .. it should not be the problem since there are
a lot of butterflies and bees which I noticed there on the flowers..
And soon you'll see the sample of all the flowers I found at even
higher altitudes (at 14000 feet) :)
regards
Alok

Ushadi micromini wrote:
> Dear Alok ji:
> Wonderful...subject and Picture quality...
>
> since in the short growing season high up, this plant must get quickly
> pollinated...
> ANY IDEA WHAT flies around to pollinate, so the next generation of
> seeds would be available...
>
> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION  was there a sizeable colony of these plants
> around this one?
>
> Usha di
> ===
>
> On Aug 12, 6:02 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> > Yes Sir Androsace rotundifolia
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > wow!!! I love Primulaceae but seems I have never noticed this plant!!!
> > > Thanks for sharing...
> > > Pankaj
> >
> > > On Aug 11, 10:04 pm, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> > > > I hope Androsace rotundifolia
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > > > Retired  Associate Professor
> > > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > > > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Alok Mahendroo  > > >wrote:
> >
> > > > > Dear friends,
> > > > > here are some more id's from higher altitudes in Chamba
> >
> > > > > Location Chamba
> > > > > Altitude 3000 mts
> > > > > Habit herb
> > > > > Habitat wild
> > > > > Height 3 - 4 inches
> >
> > > > > regards
> > > > > Alok
> > > > > --
> > > > > Himalayan Village Education Trust
> > > > > Village Khudgot,
> > > > > P.O. Dalhousie
> > > > > District Chamba
> > > > > H.P. 176304, India
> >
> > > > >www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
> > > > >www.forwildlife.wordpress.com
> >
> > > > >http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new.
> > > ..
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Dr Balkar Singh
> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > Haryana-132103
> > 09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:76940] Re: Does this variety fruit?

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
I Think *Passiflora vitifolia*

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 6:33 PM, ajinkya gadave wrote:

> Passiflora coccinea
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Mahadeswara  wrote:
>
>>  Your photograph is a proof that the plant flowers.   The question you
>> might be asking is :  where(in which place)?
>>
>> On Aug 13, 5:01 pm, Marianne de Nazareth 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Does this variety of the Passion Flower fruit?
>> >
>> > regds,
>> >
>> > Marianne
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Former Asst. Editor The Deccan Herald
>> > Freelance Journalist
>> > Adjunct faculty St. Joseph's College & COMMITShttp://
>> mariannedenazareth.blogspot.com/
>> >
>> >  Red Passion fruit flowerCIMG2877.JPG
>> > 1805KViewDownload
>
>
>


-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


[efloraofindia:76941] Re: Kalatope id al070811

2011-08-13 Thread Alok
Thanks Ritesh ji,
the question is ... WHICH ONE..??
regards
Alok

On Aug 8, 7:38 am, Ritesh Choudhary  wrote:
> Phlomis sp.
>
> Lamiaceae.
>
> Regards,
> Ritesh.


Re: [efloraofindia:76942] identification no 120811sn1

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
May be C sativus but certainly it is not M dioica

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Dinesh Valke wrote:

> ... yes Gurcharan ji for *Cucumis sativus*.
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>
>> After going through the thread on M. dioica with uploads by me, Dinesh ji
>> and Balkar ji today, I am feel that above plant is Cucumis sativus. Your
>> comments on this please.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:01 PM, H S  wrote:
>>
>>> male and female plant are different i guess
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>>>
 Perhaps either I am confused or you three. Firstly the leaves in M.
 dioica are deeply lobed and secondly the corolla is deeply divided nearly 
 up
 to the base.

 http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86650&flora_id=5

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40975182@N03/3781744682/

 To me this plant looks like   Cucumis sativus


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:47 PM, H S  wrote:

> yes, M. dioica
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Tanay Bose wrote:
>
>> I think you are correct
>> Tanay
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Satish Nikam > > wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>  Is it Momordica dioica?Taken at Mulshi,Pune in
>>> Aug.11.Kindly validate.
>>> thanks
>>> regards
>>> satish nikam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Tanay Bose*
>> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
>> Department of Botany.
>> University of British Columbia .
>> 3529-6270 University Blvd.
>> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
>> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
>>604-822-2019 (Lab)
>>604-822-6089  (Fax)
>> ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
>> *Webpages:*
>> http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
>> http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart
> of stone
>
>



>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>  - H.S.
>>>
>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart
>>> of stone
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:76943] Re: Flora of Panipat: Croton bonplandianus Baill from Herbal garden samalkha Panipat

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
Yes Sir

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> Obviously C. bonplandianus Baill (1864) as against C. sparsiflorus Morong
> (1893)
> according to GRIN, The Plant List, *Balakrishnan, N. P. & T. Chakrabarty.*
>  2007, *Govaerts, R. et al.* 2000
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Mahadeswara  wrote:
>
>> A common weed in Mysore.  Which is the valid name C.bonplandianus or
>> the Croton sparsiflorus
>>
>> On Aug 13, 11:57 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
>> > Dear All
>> > *Croton* *bonplandianus* Baill
>> > From Herbal garden samalkha Panipat
>> > Growing wildly, about 2 feet high herb
>> > family Euphorbiaceae
>> > --
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Dr Balkar Singh
>> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>> > Arya P G College, Panipat
>> > Haryana-132103
>> > 09416262964
>> >
>> >  Croton sparsiflorus (1).JPG
>> > 169KViewDownload
>> >
>> >  Croton sparsiflorus (2).JPG
>> > 250KViewDownload
>> >
>> >  Croton sparsiflorus (3).JPG
>> > 182KViewDownload
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:76944] Angelica glauca from Kashmir

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
Wonderful 


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> *Angelica glauca* Edgew., Trans. Linn. Soc. London 20:53. 1846
>
> Common name: Smooth Angelica
>
> Perennial herb up to 2 m tall, fistular; leaves 1-2-ternate-pinnate with
> oval to ovate serrate leaflets, glaucous on lower surface; Umbel compound,
> rays more than 20 with usually 5 linear bracts, involucel bracts 5-10;
> flowers white; fruit 8-12 mm long, elliptic to oblong, lateral ridges
> broadly winged.
>
> Common Himalayan plant, used medicinally.
>
>
> Photographed from Herbal Garden below Cheshmashahi in Kashmir in August.
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>


-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:76945] Ornamental tree for ID 290411MK1

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
*Dombeya wallichii *i think

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> “this is
> *Dombeya wallichii* or  *Dombeya cayeuxii*,
> Family: Malvaceae ssf. Dombeyoideae
> Dombea, Tropical Hydrangea” from Ajinkya ji.
>
>
>
> “Yes, tropical hydrangea there are two specimen in the Horticultural
> garden in Kolkata...
>
> we discovered the flowers one summer ID ed  it as Dombeya wallichi...
> Thanks,
> Usha di”
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Muthu Karthick 
> Date: 29 April 2011 11:46
> Subject: [efloraofindia:68326] Ornamental tree for ID 290411MK1
> To: indiantreepix 
>
>
> Dear all,
> Please help to ID this tree. Planted in Bryant's park Botanical garden,
> Kodaikanal, TN.
>
>*Date/Time-*
>
> 06-11-2010 / 11:30 AM
>
> *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*
>
> ca.2200asl; Kodaikanal, TN
>
> *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*
>
> Botanical garden
>
> *Plant Habit-*
>
> tree
>
> *Height/Length-*
>
> 4 m
>
> *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*
>
> c. 20 cm across; peltate
>
> *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*
>
> c 15 cm across; umbel
>
> *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
>
> 1-2cm across; red tubes
>
> *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *
>
>  *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *
>
> --
> Muthu Karthick, N
> Care Earth Trust
> #15, second main road,
> Thillai ganga nagar,
> Chennai - 600 061
> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> www.careearthtrust.org
>
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* &
> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
> alphabetically & place-wise):
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them
> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
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> around 5000 species)
>
>


-- 
Regards

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Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:76946] Re: Flora of Panipat: Cyamopsis tetragonolobus from a kitchen Garden Panipat haryana

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
Ya Usha Ji This nursery is in My way to Home definitely i will pick up
fruits

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Ushadi micromini  wrote:

> AN important vegetable for Rajasthan Gujarat and other western
> states...
> And Guar gum is very popular as thickening agent in cooked packed food
> industry
> and ice cream industree esp where caragenean may not be allowed ...
>
> only problem is it has a lectin that does not suit blood group B gut
> epithelium and red cells especially...
>
>
> Thanks Balkar ji, I had never seen its flowers...
>
> now will you be able to go back and follow up with the fruits later...
>
> usha di
> -
>
>
> On Aug 13, 12:49 pm, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> > Dear All
> > Cyamopsis tetragonolobus
> > From a kitchen garden Panipat
> > Approx 4 feet high herb. Pods used as vegetables
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Dr Balkar Singh
> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > Haryana-132103
> > 09416262964
> >
> >  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (1).JPG
> > 261KViewDownload
> >
> >  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (2).JPG
> > 266KViewDownload
> >
> >  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (3).JPG
> > 163KViewDownload
> >
> >  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (4).JPG
> > 201KViewDownload
> >
> >  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (5).JPG
> > 229KViewDownload
> >
> >  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (6).JPG
> > 157KViewDownload
> >
> >  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (7).JPG
> > 151KViewDownload
> >
> >  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (8).JPG
> > 143KViewDownload
> >
> >  Cyamopsis tetragonolobus (9).JPG
> > 135KViewDownload




-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:76947] Flora of Panipat: Terminalia Chebula from herbal Garden Panipat (Samalkha)

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
Thanks all for id and informations

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Nayan Singh wrote:

> yes this is Terminalia bellirica
>  Regards
> Nayan.
> ..
> N.S.Dungriyal IFS
> Chief Conservator of Forests
> and Field Director
> Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad
> M.P.
> 09424792100
>  *From:* Neil Soares 
> *To:* Balkar Arya ; Gurcharan Singh <
> singh...@gmail.com>
>
> *Cc:* Vijayasankar ; indiantreepix <
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 13 August 2011 12:40 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:76856] Flora of Panipat: Terminalia Chebula
> from herbal Garden Panipat (Samalkha)
> **
>   Hi,
>  Agree with Dr.Vijayasankar. This is Terminalia bellirica.
>   Regards,
> Neil Soares--- On *Sat, 8/13/11, Gurcharan
> Singh * wrote:**
>
>
> From: Gurcharan Singh 
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76832] Flora of Panipat: Terminalia Chebula
> from herbal Garden Panipat (Samalkha)
> To: "Balkar Arya" 
> Cc: "Vijayasankar" , "indiantreepix" <
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 11:21 AM
>
> Balkar ji
> Differences between Madhuca and Terminalia chebula whose leaves can be
> confused are well illustrated in Pradip Kishan in Trees of Delhi. My book is
> in Delhi, if you have it handy, it will help you a lot. The primary
> difference is number of lateral veins.
> **
> **
> -- **Dr. Gurcharan Singh**Retired  Associate Professor**SGTB Khalsa
> College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007**Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas
> Puri, New Delhi-110018.**Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089**
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> 
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Balkar Arya 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=balkara...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:**
>
> May Be Sir but the person from that herbal garden were saying that it is
> Harad not bahera. Initially after seeing the label of plant ie Termialia
> tinctoria i got confused and when enquired they said we dont know scientific
> name but it is Badi harad( Large harad) so i wrote T chebula.
>  
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Vijayasankar 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:**
>
> Nice pictures, Balkar ji, I think you wanted to type T. bellirica...
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>  **
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Balkar Arya 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=balkara...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:**
>
> Dear All
> Terminalia chebula from Herbal Garden Samalkha Panipat
> Cultivated pics on 28-6-11
> No flowers fruits seen
> Cultivated tree
>  Family: *Combretaceae*
> name written on signboard not valid
> pls validate
> -- **Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
> **
>
> 
> **
> -- **RegardsDr Balkar Singh**Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology*
> *Arya P G College, Panipat**Haryana-132103**09416262964**
>
> 
> **
>
> 
>



-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:76950] Flower ID Request 13-08-2011

2011-08-13 Thread Amar
Thank you, Mr. Ogale and Mr. Dungriyal!

Regards,

Amar


[efloraofindia:76950] Re: Flora of Panipat: Hibiscus schizopetalus from Arya PG College Campus Panipat Haryana

2011-08-13 Thread Smilax004
A very useful natural shampoo as well. All parts of this plant can be
used as shampoo.
It helps the hair from premature and uncontrolled fall and it enhances
the hair growth. It helps for sound sleep as well.

What to do is that make a paste out of the plant parts (preferably
leaf, flower and bark). Apply it 30 before bath. Timing is according
to the health of the person. For instance, if a person is suffering
from cough and "vata" related ailments, he/she is not suppose to apply
it for long time.


Regards,
Giby








On Aug 13, 10:41 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> Dear all
> Hibiscus schizopetalus
> Large Garden cultivated Shrub arround 5 ft high
> pics on 7-8-11
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
>  Hibiscus schizopetalus (1)Sm.JPG
> 119KViewDownload
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>  Hibiscus schizopetalus (2)Sm.JPG
> 131KViewDownload
>
>  Hibiscus schizopetalus (3)Sm.JPG
> 194KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76951] Re: Flower ID Request 13-8-2011 (Place: IIT Bombay)

2011-08-13 Thread Smilax004
Lantana camara of Verbenaceae family (most of the varieties of Lantana
camara are now synonymised, according to the plant list)

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=Lantana


Regards,
Giby



On Aug 13, 9:38 pm, Amar  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I clicked a pic of these flowers today in IIT Bombay. Please let me know
> what flowers these could be. I do not know what the two clusters of pink
> flowers seen in the pics are from the same plant or another. I have attached
> three crops of the image and the following information is available:
>
> Place: IIT Bombay, Mumbai, MH
> Approx Alt: Near Sea Level
> Habitat: Cultivated - potted plant
> Height: About two feet
>
> Regards,
>
> Amar
>
>  DSCF2736_1.jpg
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>  DSCF2736_2.jpg
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>
>  DSCF2736_3.jpg
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Re: [efloraofindia:76952] Tinospora cordifolia from Lohari Panipat-flowers

2011-08-13 Thread Pankaj Kumar
'auct. non' means not of the author. Literally meaning, not of the
original author but the plant was designated as Tinospora cordifolia.

So in a layman's word
Tinospora cordifolia is the original plant
Tinospora cordifolia auct. non is named as such but is not of the same
author as above and is a different species which has been named as
Tinospora malabarica.

Tinospora malabarica is now Tinospora sinensis by the way.

Pankaj


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 9:04 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> - pls validate Tinospora cordifolia (Willd.) Miers Synonym
> Menispermum cordifolium Willd.
>    However eflora of Pakistan shows  Tinospora cordifolia auct. non (DC).
> Miers: Hook f. & Thoms.  as synonym of Tinospora malabarica Miers. And not
> mentioning Tinospora cordifolia (Willd.) Miers and Tinospora malabarica
> (Lam.) Hook. f. & Thomson is a synonym of Tinospora sinensis (Lour.) Merr.
> in theplantlist.org
>    I think the following can through more light on the matter
> A Revision of Tinospora (Menispermaceae) in Asia to Australia and the
> Pacific: The Menispermaceae of Malesia and Adjacent Areas: X L. L. Forman
> Kew Bulletin Vol. 36, No. 2 (1981), pp. 375-421 image of only first page
> attached
>    If anyone have information on differences among Tinospora cordifolia
> (Willd.) Miers and Tinospora sinensis (Lour.) Merr. please share
>    Anatomical differences are available at the following site
> http://ayurherbs.wordpress.com/guduchi
> - "Special characters: This plant appears similar to Tinospora cordifolia in
> all aspects but distinctly differs in having dense hairs covering all plant
> parts. Stems have prominent white dot-like structures called lenticels.
> Fruits are attractive orange-red.' from http://envis.frlht.org/tsinensis.
> - I assume hairs are present on leaves of sinensis and not on cordifolia.
> - Please check this link:
> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/4e...
> - Please also check these links:
> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/11...
> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/7a...
> - Both species are found in many parts of India..
> T. sinensis leaves are hairy as well as bigger in size compare to those of
> T. glabra
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Balkar Arya 
> Date: 26 April 2011 19:05
> Subject: [efloraofindia:68069] Tinospora cordifolia from Lohari
> Panipat-flowers
> To: indiantreepix 
>
>
> Dear All
> pls validate
>
> Tinospora cordifolia (Willd.) Miers
>
> Synonym
> Menispermum cordifolium Willd.
> However eflora of Pakistan shows  Tinospora cordifolia auct. non (DC).
> Miers: Hook f. & Thoms.  as synonym of Tinospora malabarica Miers. And not
> Mentioning
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species &
> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
> alphabetically & place-wise):
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them
> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1680 members &
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> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database
> of more than 5000 species)
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Wildlife Institute of India
Post Box # 18
Dehradun - 248001, India


Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:76953] please id the shrub..

2011-08-13 Thread Smilax004
I too think,as Vijaysankar pointed out, that this is Archidendron
monadelphum of Leguminosae family.

The new name of this plant according to the plant list (http://
www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/ild-32297) is Archidendron bigeminum
(L.) I.C.Nielsen.

The pod and the leaflets are not that of Entada rheedii.

Regards,
Giby




On Aug 13, 8:37 am, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> Resurfacing again for ID confirmation
>
> Earlier feedback
>
> Satish Chile ji..May be 
> *Entada
> rheedii ?*
> Vijayasankar ji..
> I think it is *Archidendron monadelphum *(=* **Pithecolobium 
> bigeminum*).http://www.biotik.org/india/species/a/archmomo/archmomo_en.html
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> ..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: prasanna gogate 
> Date: Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:53 PM
> Subject: [efloraofindia:70767] please id the shrub..
> To: efloraofindia 
>
> this plant of  mimmosaceae tacken by my friend from karnataka. it id
> shrub.seeds are soft. I have attached  photograph of leaf also. thank you
> please help in id
>
> prasanna gogate
>
>
>
>  DSC03471.JPG
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[efloraofindia:76955] Re: Flower ID Request 13-8-2011 (Place: IIT Bombay)

2011-08-13 Thread Amar
Thanks a lot, Giby!

Regards,

Amar


[efloraofindia:76957] Re: efloraofindia:''For Id 13082011MR1’’ plant with big leaves at PUNE

2011-08-13 Thread Smilax004

Please check Alocacia sp. of Araceae family.


Regards,
Giby



On Aug 13, 7:27 pm, Madhuri Raut  wrote:
> Kindly help me identify this plant with the following specifications
>
> Date/Time- 13/08/2011 5.00 pm
>
> Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- PUNE Maharashtra
>
> Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Garden
>
> Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  Shrub
>
> Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Big in size grow fast
>
> Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- not seen
>
> Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- not seen
>
> Regards
>
> Bhagyashri
>
>  130820111540.jpg
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[efloraofindia:76959] Re: Need ID - Anshi NP

2011-08-13 Thread Smilax004
I too would like to encourage you to give supportive information
regarding the plants whenever you post pictures for id in the
prescribed format of our group, as Manudev pointed out.
My guess for the given pictures stands for species of Chionanthus of
Oleaceae family.
If you can provide information on flowers it would be easy to reach
species.


Regards,
Giby



On Aug 13, 2:16 pm, Raptor Conservation 
wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> Not sure what this tree is! Any help is much appreciated.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Dr.Pranay Rao Juvvadi,
> General Secretary, Raptor Conservation Foundation,
> 1-10-63/4, Chikoti Gardens , Begumpet,
> Hyderabad-500 016,
> Andhra Pradesh, India .
> Mobile No: (091) 9866978785
> Email: raptorconse...@yahoo.com 
>
>  ID 1a.jpg
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>  ID 1b.jpg
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[efloraofindia:76960] Re: Does this variety fruit?

2011-08-13 Thread Smilax004
My understanding from the question is whether the plant/species
produces fruit?
If this is the question my answer is that it differs from place to
place.
Studies on the pollination biology of this plant (not sure about the
species) is going on in Karnataka.
It is found that in some places there is no fruit set at all. No clue,
so far, why it is so.
If it is (this species/variety) a recent introduction to any new place
it takes sometime to start producing fruits as these plants need
specific pollinators to effect pollination.


Regards
Giby




On Aug 13, 5:01 pm, Marianne de Nazareth 
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does this variety of the Passion Flower fruit?
>
> regds,
>
> Marianne
>
> --
>
> Former Asst. Editor The Deccan Herald
> Freelance Journalist
> Adjunct faculty St. Joseph's College & 
> COMMITShttp://mariannedenazareth.blogspot.com/
>
>  Red Passion fruit flowerCIMG2877.JPG
> 1805KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76961] Re: Flower ID Request 13-08-2011

2011-08-13 Thread Smilax004
Yes it is Cheilocostus speciosus (J.König) C.Specht of Costaceae
family.


Regards,
Giby




On Aug 13, 9:40 pm, Amar  wrote:
> Thank you, Mr. Ogale and Mr. Dungriyal!
>
> Regards,
>
> Amar


[efloraofindia:76962] Re: Angelica glauca from Kashmir

2011-08-13 Thread Smilax004
Wow! Superb pictures depicting most of details of the plant clearly.

Regards,
Giby



On Aug 13, 7:08 pm, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> *Angelica glauca* Edgew., Trans. Linn. Soc. London 20:53. 1846
>
> Common name: Smooth Angelica
>
> Perennial herb up to 2 m tall, fistular; leaves 1-2-ternate-pinnate with
> oval to ovate serrate leaflets, glaucous on lower surface; Umbel compound,
> rays more than 20 with usually 5 linear bracts, involucel bracts 5-10;
> flowers white; fruit 8-12 mm long, elliptic to oblong, lateral ridges
> broadly winged.
>
> Common Himalayan plant, used medicinally.
>
> Photographed from Herbal Garden below Cheshmashahi in Kashmir in August.
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>  Angelica-glauca-Herbal-garden-Kashmir-1.jpg
> 188KViewDownload
>
>  Angelica-glauca-Herbal-garden-Kashmir-2.jpg
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>  Angelica-glauca-Herbal-garden-Kashmir-3.jpg
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[efloraofindia:76963] Re: identification no 120811sn1

2011-08-13 Thread Smilax004

I too think that this is Cucumis sativus L. of Cucurbitaceae family.

Regards,
Giby




On Aug 12, 3:41 pm, Satish Nikam  wrote:
> Dear All,
>              Is it Momordica dioica?Taken at Mulshi,Pune in Aug.11.Kindly 
> validate.
>     thanks
> regards
> satish nikam
>
>  IMG_6064-r.jpg
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Re: [efloraofindia:76964] Re: Angelica glauca from Kashmir

2011-08-13 Thread Tanay Bose
Awesome Sirji ... especially eh closeup of the fruits
Tanay

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Smilax004 wrote:

> Wow! Superb pictures depicting most of details of the plant clearly.
>
> Regards,
> Giby
>
>
>
> On Aug 13, 7:08 pm, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> > *Angelica glauca* Edgew., Trans. Linn. Soc. London 20:53. 1846
> >
> > Common name: Smooth Angelica
> >
> > Perennial herb up to 2 m tall, fistular; leaves 1-2-ternate-pinnate with
> > oval to ovate serrate leaflets, glaucous on lower surface; Umbel
> compound,
> > rays more than 20 with usually 5 linear bracts, involucel bracts 5-10;
> > flowers white; fruit 8-12 mm long, elliptic to oblong, lateral ridges
> > broadly winged.
> >
> > Common Himalayan plant, used medicinally.
> >
> > Photographed from Herbal Garden below Cheshmashahi in Kashmir in August.
> > --
> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired  Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> >  Angelica-glauca-Herbal-garden-Kashmir-1.jpg
> > 188KViewDownload
> >
> >  Angelica-glauca-Herbal-garden-Kashmir-2.jpg
> > 678KViewDownload
> >
> >  Angelica-glauca-Herbal-garden-Kashmir-3.jpg
> > 476KViewDownload
>



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Re: [efloraofindia:76966] Chamba upper reaches - id al130811a

2011-08-13 Thread Balkar Arya
GERANIUM WALLICHIANUM may be

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Alok Mahendroo wrote:

> Dear friends
>
> Looked to me at first like the Himalayan Geranium... but then it seemed
> different...
>
> Location Chamba
> Altitude 3500 mts
> Habit herb
> Habitat wild
> Plant height 18-20 inches
>
> regards
> Alok
> --
> Himalayan Village Education Trust
> Village Khudgot,
> P.O. Dalhousie
> District Chamba
> H.P. 176304, India
>
> www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
> www.forwildlife.wordpress.com
>
> http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186
>
>


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Regards

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Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


[efloraofindia:76967] chakrata meet 2011

2011-08-13 Thread satyendra tiwari
Dear Friends,
Chakrata meet is officially declared on diversityindia.org
Pl see the details on
http://diversityindia.org/meet/chakrata.html
Thanks.
satyendra


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[efloraofindia:76968] chakrata meet details

2011-08-13 Thread satyendra tiwari
Dear Friends
I am copying here the details of Chakrata meet sep 2011.
pl. have a look.
satyendra

Dear Friends,

I am happy to announce second ButterflyIndia Meet 2011 officially. The
details are as follows:

When : 11th to 15th September 2011

Where : Chakrata, Uttarakhand

Chakrata is situated between Tons and Yamuna rivers at an elevation of
7250 feet above MSL. Rich green forest of Oaks and Conifers provides
perfect habitat for butterflies and other insects. The elevation, the
forest and almost pesticide free region makes it a special place for
butterflies in Northern India.

Butterflies of Chakrata – More than 150 species of butterflies are
recorded from Chakrata region. On our last visit to Chakrata Wall,
Argus, Copper and Common Punch butterflies were found in abundance.
Roadside plants of Nettles are always the hot spot to look for
Caterpillars and Pupae of Indian Red Admiral.

Who is organizing : Satyendra Kumar Tiwari, Tala. Madhya Pradesh

Please visit http://diversityindia.org/meet/chakrata.html for the
registration details and tentative schedule of the meet is at
http://diversityindia.org/meet/chakrataschedule.html

Since we have very limited seats, please register at the earliest to
avoid disappointment. If you have any questions please email
bim2...@diversityindia.org

Regards,

Vijay Barve

--


-
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Wildlife Photographer, Naturalist, Tour Leader
H.NO  129, P.O.Tala, Distt Umariya.
M.P. India 484-661
Park Entry fee is constantly under revision since last one year. We take no
responsibility for any changes in park rules / fees. We will endaevour to
let you know as soon as we know of such changes.
To know more about Bandhavgarh visit following links.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/satyendraphotography
http://tigerdiaries.blogspot.com
http://skayscamp.wetpaint.com
SKAY'S CAMP is awarded QUALITY rating by Tour Operator For Tigers (TOFT).
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Review Skay's Camp on TripAdvisor
00-91-7627-265309 or 09425331209


Re: [efloraofindia:76969] Chamba upper reaches - id al130811a

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
I don't think G. wallichianum. The large ovate stipules and bracts are
missing. Rosy flowers and linear bracts and stipules suggest G. grevilleanum

-- 
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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Balkar Arya  wrote:

> GERANIUM WALLICHIANUM may be
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Alok Mahendroo 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear friends
>>
>> Looked to me at first like the Himalayan Geranium... but then it seemed
>> different...
>>
>> Location Chamba
>> Altitude 3500 mts
>> Habit herb
>> Habitat wild
>> Plant height 18-20 inches
>>
>> regards
>> Alok
>> --
>> Himalayan Village Education Trust
>> Village Khudgot,
>> P.O. Dalhousie
>> District Chamba
>> H.P. 176304, India
>>
>> www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
>> www.forwildlife.wordpress.com
>>
>> http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>


Re: [efloraofindia:76971] Chamba Higher altitude - id al130811

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Stachys sericea

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On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Alok Mahendroo wrote:

> Dear friends,
> I apologise for some of the photos which are not so good I was
> moving too fast.. from flower to flower... too less time and too much to
> see during the short time I was there...
>
> This one seems to be some king of Stachys.. but then I could be wrong ..
> looking for your advice..
>
> Location Chamba
> Altitude 3000 mts
> Habit herb
> Habitat wild
> Plant height 10-12 inches
>
> regards
> Alok
>
> --
> Himalayan Village Education Trust
> Village Khudgot,
> P.O. Dalhousie
> District Chamba
> H.P. 176304, India
>
> www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
> www.forwildlife.wordpress.com
>
> http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:76972] Re: Flower ID Request 13-8-2011 (Place: IIT Bombay)

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Lantana camara



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On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Amar  wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Giby!
>
> Regards,
>
> Amar
>


Re: [efloraofindia:76973] Re: Higher Chamba - id al110811a

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Alok ji
We often get leaves of other plants in the focus, and ignore them. I
mentioned Cirsium because mail before me (Diversity of India) had mentioned
about spiny leaves from Asteraceae.


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Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Alok  wrote:

> Thank you sir,
> The spiny leaves were not a part of this observation... they just
> happened to be growing there... the relevance was for the flowers and
> the fruits and in the third photo the leaves of what you called
> Phytolacca acinosawith...
>
> Sorry for not acknowledging this earlier... it seems that sometimes
> the messages do not appear in my e-mails.. but are only on the
> forum
>
> regards
> Alok
>
> On Aug 12, 6:44 am, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> > Yes Phytolacca acinosawith spiny leaves of Cirsium
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired  Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Plant Diversity <
> a.cul...@reading.ac.uk>wrote:
> >
> > > The flowers and fruit are of Phytolacca - the spiny leaves are
> > > Asteraceae.
> >
> > > Alastair
> > >http://www.facebook.com/PlantDiversity
> >
> > > On Aug 11, 6:10 pm, Alok Mahendroo  wrote:
> > > > Dear friends,
> >
> > > > A beautiful shrub for id...
> >
> > > > Location Chamba
> > > > Altitude 3000 mts
> > > > Habit shrub
> > > > Habitat wild
> > > > Plant height 6 feet
> >
> > > > regards
> > > > Alok
> > > > --
> > > > Himalayan Village Education Trust
> > > > Village Khudgot,
> > > > P.O. Dalhousie
> > > > District Chamba
> > > > H.P. 176304, India
> >
> > > >www.hivetrust.wordpress.comwww.forwildlife.wordpress.comhttp://
> > > mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new...
> >
> > > >  073011_1281.jpg
> > > > 115KViewDownload
> >
> > > >  073011_1284.jpg
> > > > 233KViewDownload
> >
> > > >  073011_1286.jpg
> > > > 258KViewDownload
> >
> >
>


Re: [efloraofindia:76974] Chamba upper reaches - id al130811a

2011-08-13 Thread Alok Mahendroo
Thank you sir,
not much reference available online for this ... but that is where this
forum and your advice play a good role..
regards
Alok
On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 08:50 +0530, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
> I don't think G. wallichianum. The large ovate stipules and bracts are
> missing. Rosy flowers and linear bracts and stipules suggest G.
> grevilleanum
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Balkar Arya 
> wrote:
> GERANIUM WALLICHIANUM may be
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Alok Mahendroo
>  wrote:
> Dear friends
> 
> Looked to me at first like the Himalayan Geranium...
> but then it seemed
> different...
> 
> Location Chamba
> Altitude 3500 mts
> Habit herb
> Habitat wild
> Plant height 18-20 inches
> 
> regards
> Alok
> --
> Himalayan Village Education Trust
> Village Khudgot,
> P.O. Dalhousie
> District Chamba
> H.P. 176304, India
> 
> www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
> www.forwildlife.wordpress.com
> 
> http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> 
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
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Village Khudgot,
P.O. Dalhousie
District Chamba
H.P. 176304, India

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Re: [efloraofindia:76976] Chamba upper reaches - id al130811a

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
The new name for G. grevilleanum Wall. is G. lambertii

For most Western Himalaya plants you may refer to eFlora of Pakistan

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=113475


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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Alok Mahendroo wrote:

> Thank you sir,
> not much reference available online for this ... but that is where this
> forum and your advice play a good role..
> regards
> Alok
> On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 08:50 +0530, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
> > I don't think G. wallichianum. The large ovate stipules and bracts are
> > missing. Rosy flowers and linear bracts and stipules suggest G.
> > grevilleanum
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired  Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Balkar Arya 
> > wrote:
> > GERANIUM WALLICHIANUM may be
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Alok Mahendroo
> >  wrote:
> > Dear friends
> >
> > Looked to me at first like the Himalayan Geranium...
> > but then it seemed
> > different...
> >
> > Location Chamba
> > Altitude 3500 mts
> > Habit herb
> > Habitat wild
> > Plant height 18-20 inches
> >
> > regards
> > Alok
> > --
> > Himalayan Village Education Trust
> > Village Khudgot,
> > P.O. Dalhousie
> > District Chamba
> > H.P. 176304, India
> >
> > www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
> > www.forwildlife.wordpress.com
> >
> http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Dr Balkar Singh
> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > Haryana-132103
> > 09416262964
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Himalayan Village Education Trust
> Village Khudgot,
> P.O. Dalhousie
> District Chamba
> H.P. 176304, India
>
> www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
> www.forwildlife.wordpress.com
>
> http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:76977] Re: Does this variety fruit?

2011-08-13 Thread mani nair
I have seen this type of passionflower in a nursery and did not see
any fruits.  Only flower. The nursery lady told me that it is grown
from cutting and  it will take at least two years for the new planted
one to flower.

Regards.

Mani.



On 8/13/11, Smilax004  wrote:
> My understanding from the question is whether the plant/species
> produces fruit?
> If this is the question my answer is that it differs from place to
> place.
> Studies on the pollination biology of this plant (not sure about the
> species) is going on in Karnataka.
> It is found that in some places there is no fruit set at all. No clue,
> so far, why it is so.
> If it is (this species/variety) a recent introduction to any new place
> it takes sometime to start producing fruits as these plants need
> specific pollinators to effect pollination.
>
>
> Regards
> Giby
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 13, 5:01 pm, Marianne de Nazareth 
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does this variety of the Passion Flower fruit?
>>
>> regds,
>>
>> Marianne
>>
>> --
>>
>> Former Asst. Editor The Deccan Herald
>> Freelance Journalist
>> Adjunct faculty St. Joseph's College &
>> COMMITShttp://mariannedenazareth.blogspot.com/
>>
>>  Red Passion fruit flowerCIMG2877.JPG
>> 1805KViewDownload
>


[efloraofindia:76978] Re: Angelica glauca from Kashmir

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini
Love this... esp the fruits
so august is when one can get both seeds and flowers coexisting...ie
middle of season for the plant

MY QUESTION, Dr SINGH :
DOES this Angelica have the telltele swollen base of the new leaf
formation
(I donot know what the technical term id for it)
like the one  I had shown for the Korean angelica ... I have seen the
same formation in the Angelica archeangelica, the usual western/north
american grown angelica...

Usha di


On Aug 13, 10:49 pm, Tanay Bose  wrote:
> Awesome Sirji ... especially eh closeup of the fruits
> Tanay
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Smilax004 wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wow! Superb pictures depicting most of details of the plant clearly.
>
> > Regards,
> > Giby
>
> > On Aug 13, 7:08 pm, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> > > *Angelica glauca* Edgew., Trans. Linn. Soc. London 20:53. 1846
>
> > > Common name: Smooth Angelica
>
> > > Perennial herb up to 2 m tall, fistular; leaves 1-2-ternate-pinnate with
> > > oval to ovate serrate leaflets, glaucous on lower surface; Umbel
> > compound,
> > > rays more than 20 with usually 5 linear bracts, involucel bracts 5-10;
> > > flowers white; fruit 8-12 mm long, elliptic to oblong, lateral ridges
> > > broadly winged.
>
> > > Common Himalayan plant, used medicinally.
>
> > > Photographed from Herbal Garden below Cheshmashahi in Kashmir in August.
> > > --
> > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > > Retired  Associate Professor
> > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> > >  Angelica-glauca-Herbal-garden-Kashmir-1.jpg
> > > 188KViewDownload
>
> > >  Angelica-glauca-Herbal-garden-Kashmir-2.jpg
> > > 678KViewDownload
>
> > >  Angelica-glauca-Herbal-garden-Kashmir-3.jpg
> > > 476KViewDownload
>
> --
> *Tanay Bose*
> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> Department of Botany.
> University of British Columbia .
> 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
>            604-822-2019 (Lab)
>            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
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Re: [efloraofindia:76979] Re: Does this variety fruit?

2011-08-13 Thread Marianne de Nazareth
This was flowering profusely for a whole year, but not a single fruit. The
regular purple passion flower gives lots of fruit tho in Bangalore.

Marianne

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM, mani nair  wrote:

> I have seen this type of passionflower in a nursery and did not see
> any fruits.  Only flower. The nursery lady told me that it is grown
> from cutting and  it will take at least two years for the new planted
> one to flower.
>
> Regards.
>
> Mani.
>
>
>
> On 8/13/11, Smilax004  wrote:
> > My understanding from the question is whether the plant/species
> > produces fruit?
> > If this is the question my answer is that it differs from place to
> > place.
> > Studies on the pollination biology of this plant (not sure about the
> > species) is going on in Karnataka.
> > It is found that in some places there is no fruit set at all. No clue,
> > so far, why it is so.
> > If it is (this species/variety) a recent introduction to any new place
> > it takes sometime to start producing fruits as these plants need
> > specific pollinators to effect pollination.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Giby
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 13, 5:01 pm, Marianne de Nazareth 
> > wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Does this variety of the Passion Flower fruit?
> >>
> >> regds,
> >>
> >> Marianne
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Former Asst. Editor The Deccan Herald
> >> Freelance Journalist
> >> Adjunct faculty St. Joseph's College &
> >> COMMITShttp://mariannedenazareth.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>  Red Passion fruit flowerCIMG2877.JPG
> >> 1805KViewDownload
> >
>



-- 

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Freelance Journalist
Adjunct faculty St. Joseph's College & COMMITS
http://mariannedenazareth.blogspot.com/


[efloraofindia:76981] Re: identification no 120811sn1

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini
I have been following this thread from the minute it appeared... I see
many KAKROL plants in rural bengal as we drive by... and sometimes
stop... to look... this did not at first glance look like Kakrol (M
dioica)  we see here
AND I WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE DOUBTING>>>MAKES ME FEEL GOOD THAT my
doubts (although arising out if technical ignorance)  were well
founded... See Dr. Gurucharan Singh ji's comments...

 This what I have learnt from this thread

1) Photography and presentation of the question:

For any unknown cucurbitacaee it is important to not just get good
shots of the face of flowers and leaves (front and Back) but measure
the flowers across...
and if possible ( like it was here, since the maker is holding the
flower...) take a profile view of the flower... this is esp so in case
of separate male and female flowers...   or plant itself being one or
the other sex...  ands so that the length of the flower tube, abd
pedicle etc is visible and be judged...

2) Not to start agreeing with one or two or three well known botanist
(s) ...  until an exacting taxonomist studies it...

Curucumis sativus... the ordinary cucumber is miles apart in terms of
fruits' anatomy and medicinal values  from Mamordica dioica
SO we learnt a valuable lesson today...
Thanks Gurucharanji...

Usha di 
=





On Aug 13, 10:43 pm, Smilax004  wrote:
> I too think that this is Cucumis sativus L. of Cucurbitaceae family.
>
> Regards,
> Giby
>
> On Aug 12, 3:41 pm, Satish Nikam  wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >              Is it Momordica dioica?Taken at Mulshi,Pune in Aug.11.Kindly 
> > validate.
> >     thanks
> > regards
> > satish nikam
>
> >  IMG_6064-r.jpg
> > 47KViewDownload
>
> >  IMG_6065-r.jpg
> > 85KViewDownload
>
> >  IMG_6066-r.jpg
> > 52KViewDownload
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> >  IMG_6092-r.jpg
> > 40KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:76982] Re: Angelica glauca from Kashmir

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Ushadi
This swollen leaf-sheath, a feature of the family Apiaceae, becomes more
prominent in taller plants like Angelica, Heracleum, Ferula etc, and looks
more swollen in the subtending leaf  especially when inflorescence is about
to emerge. The shortened leaf below the inflorescence would generally have a
prominent leaf sheath, in comparison to leaf blade.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Ushadi micromini <
microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Love this... esp the fruits
> so august is when one can get both seeds and flowers coexisting...ie
> middle of season for the plant
>
> MY QUESTION, Dr SINGH :
> DOES this Angelica have the telltele swollen base of the new leaf
> formation
> (I donot know what the technical term id for it)
> like the one  I had shown for the Korean angelica ... I have seen the
> same formation in the Angelica archeangelica, the usual western/north
> american grown angelica...
>
> Usha di
> 
>
> On Aug 13, 10:49 pm, Tanay Bose  wrote:
> > Awesome Sirji ... especially eh closeup of the fruits
> > Tanay
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Smilax004  >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Wow! Superb pictures depicting most of details of the plant clearly.
> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Giby
> >
> > > On Aug 13, 7:08 pm, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> > > > *Angelica glauca* Edgew., Trans. Linn. Soc. London 20:53. 1846
> >
> > > > Common name: Smooth Angelica
> >
> > > > Perennial herb up to 2 m tall, fistular; leaves 1-2-ternate-pinnate
> with
> > > > oval to ovate serrate leaflets, glaucous on lower surface; Umbel
> > > compound,
> > > > rays more than 20 with usually 5 linear bracts, involucel bracts
> 5-10;
> > > > flowers white; fruit 8-12 mm long, elliptic to oblong, lateral ridges
> > > > broadly winged.
> >
> > > > Common Himalayan plant, used medicinally.
> >
> > > > Photographed from Herbal Garden below Cheshmashahi in Kashmir in
> August.
> > > > --
> > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > > > Retired  Associate Professor
> > > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > > > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> > > >  Angelica-glauca-Herbal-garden-Kashmir-1.jpg
> > > > 188KViewDownload
> >
> > > >  Angelica-glauca-Herbal-garden-Kashmir-2.jpg
> > > > 678KViewDownload
> >
> > > >  Angelica-glauca-Herbal-garden-Kashmir-3.jpg
> > > > 476KViewDownload
> >
> > --
> > *Tanay Bose*
> > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> > Department of Botany.
> > University of British Columbia .
> > 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> >604-822-2019 (Lab)
> >604-822-6089  (Fax)
> > ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
> > *Webpages:*
> http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.htmlhttp://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.htmlhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/


Re: [efloraofindia:76983] chakrata meet 2011

2011-08-13 Thread J.M. Garg
I think this is a very good opportunity for the eFI members to explore flora
of the region along with butterflies.
Thanks, Satyendra ji& others for organising the event.

On 14 August 2011 07:49, satyendra tiwari  wrote:

> Dear Friends,
> Chakrata meet is officially declared on diversityindia.org
> Pl see the details on
> http://diversityindia.org/meet/chakrata.html
> Thanks.
> satyendra
>
>
> --
> Satyendra K.Tiwari.
> Wildlife Photographer, Naturalist, Tour Leader
> H.NO  129, P.O.Tala, Distt Umariya.
> M.P. India 484-661
> Park Entry fee is constantly under revision since last one year. We take no
> responsibility for any changes in park rules / fees. We will endaevour to
> let you know as soon as we know of such changes.
> To know more about Bandhavgarh visit following links.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/satyendraphotography
> http://tigerdiaries.blogspot.com
> http://skayscamp.wetpaint.com
> SKAY'S CAMP is awarded QUALITY rating by Tour Operator For Tigers (TOFT).
> http://www.toftigers.org/accommodation/Default.aspx?id=15
> Review Skay's Camp on TripAdvisor
> 00-91-7627-265309 or 09425331209
>
>


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[efloraofindia:76984] Re: Flower ID Request 13-08-2011

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini
Its not the flower that's important, its the roots../rhizomes...
my question... did you get to photograph the stem of this plant?

Usha di
==


On Aug 13, 10:34 pm, Smilax004  wrote:
> Yes it is Cheilocostus speciosus (J.König) C.Specht of Costaceae
> family.
>
> Regards,
> Giby
>
> On Aug 13, 9:40 pm, Amar  wrote:
>
> > Thank you, Mr. Ogale and Mr. Dungriyal!
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Amar


[efloraofindia:76985] Re: Please identify this Coral fungus

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini
Tanay: but dont you have slides from last year or the year before...
or cant these be stored ?


Usha di
==

On Aug 13, 7:27 pm, Tanay Bose  wrote:
> Hi Usha Di,
> Mushroom season is yet to come here in Canada.
> So I cant help now. May be Muthu can enlighten
> us.
>
> Thanks
> Tanay
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Ushadi micromini 
>
>
> > wrote:
>
> > TANAY or Muthu ji: can one of you, either or or both post pic of the
> > microscopic slides ... of a cross section and the fruiting body of
> > thises two fungii if you have them>
>
> > thanks Usha di
>
> > =
> > On Aug 13, 10:53 am, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
> > > yes yes Tanayji.
>
> > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Tanay Bose 
> > wrote:
> > > > Muthu you are correct this is  *Pterula multifida*
> > > > I think you remeber many months you posted
> > > > this fungi and I identified it for you.
>
> > > > Tanay
>
> > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Muthu Karthick 
> > wrote:
>
> > > >> Please check for *Pterula multifida *or allied.
>
> > > >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Neil Soares  > >wrote:
>
> > > >>> Hi,
> > > >>>  Photographed at my farm last Sunday. Over the last few years have
> > > >>> observed these fungi encircling the bases of Carvanda [Carissa
> > congesta]
> > > >>> bushes.
> > > >>>  Please note that fallen leaves and other debri have been cleared to
> > take
> > > >>> these photographs.
> > > >>>                    Thanks,
> > > >>>                                          Regards,
> > > >>>                                            Neil Soares.
>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Muthu Karthick, N
> > > >> Care Earth Trust
> > > >> #15, second main road,
> > > >> Thillai ganga nagar,
> > > >> Chennai - 600 061
> > > >> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> > > >>www.careearthtrust.org
>
> > > > --
> > > > *Tanay Bose*
> > > > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> > > > Department of Botany.
> > > > University of British Columbia .
> > > > 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> > > > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> > > > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> > > >            604-822-2019 (Lab)
> > > >            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> > > > ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
> > > > *Webpages:*
> > > >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
> > > >http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
> > > >https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
>
> > > --
> > > Muthu Karthick, N
> > > Care Earth Trust
> > > #15, second main road,
> > > Thillai ganga nagar,
> > > Chennai - 600 061
> > > Mob: 0091 96268 33911www.careearthtrust.org
>
> --
> *Tanay Bose*
> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> Department of Botany.
> University of British Columbia .
> 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
>            604-822-2019 (Lab)
>            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
> *Webpages:*http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.htmlhttp://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.htmlhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/


Re: [efloraofindia:76986] chakrata meet details

2011-08-13 Thread J.M. Garg
I think this is a very good opportunity for the eFI members to explore flora
of the region along with butterflies.
Thanks, Satyendra ji& others for organising the event.

On 14 August 2011 08:02, satyendra tiwari  wrote:

> Dear Friends
> I am copying here the details of Chakrata meet sep 2011.
> pl. have a look.
> satyendra
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> I am happy to announce second ButterflyIndia Meet 2011 officially. The
> details are as follows:
>
> When : 11th to 15th September 2011
>
> Where : Chakrata, Uttarakhand
>
> Chakrata is situated between Tons and Yamuna rivers at an elevation of
> 7250 feet above MSL. Rich green forest of Oaks and Conifers provides
> perfect habitat for butterflies and other insects. The elevation, the
> forest and almost pesticide free region makes it a special place for
> butterflies in Northern India.
>
> Butterflies of Chakrata – More than 150 species of butterflies are
> recorded from Chakrata region. On our last visit to Chakrata Wall,
> Argus, Copper and Common Punch butterflies were found in abundance.
> Roadside plants of Nettles are always the hot spot to look for
> Caterpillars and Pupae of Indian Red Admiral.
>
> Who is organizing : Satyendra Kumar Tiwari, Tala. Madhya Pradesh
>
> Please visit http://diversityindia.org/meet/chakrata.html for the
> registration details and tentative schedule of the meet is at
> http://diversityindia.org/meet/chakrataschedule.html
>
> Since we have very limited seats, please register at the earliest to
> avoid disappointment. If you have any questions please email
> bim2...@diversityindia.org
>
> Regards,
>
> Vijay Barve
>
> --
>
>
> -
> Satyendra K.Tiwari.
>  Wildlife Photographer, Naturalist, Tour Leader
> H.NO  129, P.O.Tala, Distt Umariya.
> M.P. India 484-661
> Park Entry fee is constantly under revision since last one year. We take no
> responsibility for any changes in park rules / fees. We will endaevour to
> let you know as soon as we know of such changes.
> To know more about Bandhavgarh visit following links.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/satyendraphotography
> http://tigerdiaries.blogspot.com
> http://skayscamp.wetpaint.com
> SKAY'S CAMP is awarded QUALITY rating by Tour Operator For Tigers (TOFT).
> http://www.toftigers.org/accommodation/Default.aspx?id=15
> Review Skay's Camp on TripAdvisor
> 00-91-7627-265309 or 09425331209
>
>


-- 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
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eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
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of more than 5000 species)


Re: [efloraofindia:76987] Re: efloraofindia 786543 Passion flower creeper at PUNE

2011-08-13 Thread Madhuri Raut
Till today I was under the impression that Passion flower is only of blue
colour as I had seen only blue passion flower. But today I learned to my
surprise that it is also whitish and red in colour.  I have always wondered
why does the same flower have different colours other eg.  like Hibiscus,
Rose Any explanation?

I also want to share some interesting info I came across about Krishna
kamal/ Passion flower

So, long story behind the name Krishna Kamal. There are (apparently) a 100
of those blue petals - one for each of the Kauravas, and 5 of the green ones
in the centre - one for each of the Pandavas. The green bulb in the centre
symbolises the Pandava queen Draupadi, and the three filaments are for the
holy trinity of Brahma-Vishnu-Shiv. AND the white radial in the centre is
the Sudarshan chakra of Lord Krishna.

Bhagyashri


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Mahadeswara  wrote:

> Beautiful photographs.
>
> On Aug 13, 3:45 pm, Madhuri Raut  wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I would like to share the pictures of Passion flower creeper in my garden
> >
> > Date13/08/2011 time 4.00pm
> > Location  District Pune ;State :Maharashtra
> >
> > Habitat- Garden
> >
> > Plant Habit-  Climber
> >
> > Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-beautiful purple flowers
> >
> > Other Information like Fragrance Wonderful sweet fragrance
> >
> > Regards
> > Bhagyashri
> >
> >  k3.jpg
> > 596KViewDownload
> >
> >  k1.jpg
> > 509KViewDownload
> >
> >  k2.jpg
> > 478KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:76988] Re: Ficus palmata in Kashmir

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini
never even dreamt that a ficus would be a shrubby thing...
if I dreamt it... I would have googled it...
but...
THANKS for New ... klearnign
Usha di
++

On Aug 13, 4:21 pm, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> Here are mines from Munak Road Karnal (228Mts)
> This plant was a shrub there having fruits
> I think this is also Ficus palmata
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:20 PM, tanay bose  wrote:
> > Thanks Sirji
> > tabay
>
> > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>
> >> welcome back Tanay
>
> >> --
>
> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >> Retired  Associate Professor
> >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> >>   On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:02 PM, tanay bose wrote:
>
> >>> never seen this before
> >>> thanks for adding sir ji
> >>> tanay
>
> >>>   On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Gurcharan Singh 
> >>> wrote:
>
>  Ficus palmata in Kashmir, often self sown and found less commonly in
>  Kashmir, though more common in Delhi, Jammu & Punjab. Interestingly the
>  leaves are mostly unlobed in majority of specimens I have seen in our 
>  areas,
>  that is the strange irony of plant naming. Photgraphed from Balgarden,
>  Srinagar on June 17, 2010.
>
>  --
>  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>  Retired  Associate Professor
>  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> >>> --
> >>> Tanay Bose
> >>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi)
> >>> 9830439691(Mobile)
>
> > --
> > Tanay Bose
> > +91(033) 25550676 (Resi)
> > 9830439691(Mobile)
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
>  Ficus palmata (1).JPG
> 207KViewDownload
>
>  Ficus palmata (2).JPG
> 144KViewDownload
>
>  Ficus palmata (3).JPG
> 252KViewDownload
>
>  Ficus palmata (4).JPG
> 212KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:76989] Please identify this Staghorn fungus

2011-08-13 Thread Nayan Singh
looks like Ramaria stricta
Thanks
Nayan.
..
N.S.Dungriyal IFS
Chief Conservator of Forests
and Field Director
Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad
M.P.
09424792100

From: Neil Soares 
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 1:30 PM
Subject: [efloraofindia:76740] Please identify this Staghorn fungus

Hi,
 Photographed at my farm last Sunday. They are about 6-7 inches tall.
Please also note that fallen leaves and other debri have been cleared to take 
these photographs.
   Thanks,
 Regards,
   Neil Soares. 

[efloraofindia:76991] Re: 14082011-BS-001: cycas sp for id from Arya PG College Panipat

2011-08-13 Thread Plant Diversity
It could be Dioon edule (or another similar Dioon)

Alastair Culham
http://www.facebook.com/PlantDiversity


On Aug 14, 4:25 am, Balkar Arya  wrote:
> Dear All
> A sp of Cycas i think for id
> Brought from a Nursery in Panipat now in My College Never seen anywhere else
> (Panipat 200 mts)
> Fronds about 20-25 inch spines on margins. leaflets about 4-5 inches
> no cone seen
> Thanks
> --
> Regards
>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
>  IMG_6059Sm.JPG
> 214KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_6060Sm.JPG
> 228KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_6061Sm.JPG
> 512KViewDownload
>
>  IMG_6063Sm.JPG
> 180KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:76993] Cyperus difformis from Tikkar Tal Lake, Morni

2011-08-13 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Cyperus difformis and C. fuscus are two distinct species, recognised by all
prominent Floras

This plant is C. difformis, characterised by globose heads of more than 40
spikes

C. fuscus has much fewer spreading spikes

http://australian-insects.com/lepidoptera/plants/cype/cyperus-difformis.jpg

http://luirig.altervista.org/cpm/albums/bot-hawaii10/04797-Cyperus-difformis.jpg

http://luirig.altervista.org/cpm/displayimage.php?album=41&pos=3897

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=44822&flora_id=5


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:46 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> “Correct name for C. difformis is C. fuscus L. in 1753
>
> anyhow this picture doesnt look like C. fuscus
> --
>
>  - H.S.”
>
>
>
> “C. difformis and C. fuscus are two distinct species as per Kew Plant List
>
> http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-236342
> It would be good if you inform us about your source as requested by other
> members also.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh”
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Gurcharan Singh 
> Date: 24 April 2011 09:48
> Subject: [efloraofindia:67909] Cyperus difformis from Tikkar Tal Lake,
> Morni
> To: efloraofindia , Flowers of India <
> flowersofin...@gmail.com>, Tabish 
>
>
> *Cyperus difformis* L., Cent. pl. II:6. 1756 (Amoen. acad. 4:302. 1759)
>
> A tufted annual with numerous fibrous roots; stems trigonous; leaves
> shorter than stem, smooth; spikes small, up to 5 mm long, dark brown, with
> scarious margins, forming sessile as well as stalked globose heads.
> Photographed on April 10 from wet ground around Tikkar tal lake, Morni,
> Haryana.
>
> Common names: dirty-Dora, rice sedge, small-flower umbrella-plant, variable
> flat sedge
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* &
> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
> alphabetically & place-wise):
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them
> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1680 members &
> 75,000 messages on 31/7/11) or Efloraofindia website:
> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database
> of more than 5000 species)
>
>