[efloraofindia:239178] Re: completed insertion of images of identified species of Polyscias

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Bhagyashri ji.
On 31 Jan 2016 20:42, "Bhagyashri"  wrote:

> -
> Regards
> Bhagyashri
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[efloraofindia:239182] Please I'd sir

[Shrikant Ingalhalikar]

Passiflora coccinea. Regards 

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Re: [efloraofindia:239182] Re: flower I.D. needed

[Ushadi Micromini]

Yes Smita
Its a lotus
usha di

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Smita Raskar 
wrote:

> It is just a design of leaves
> Gold smith has nothing to do about botany
> I only guessed flower because normally symbolic lotus flower is used in
> jewellery design
> It is believed that Goddess Saraswati likes lotuses so it used in design
> Regards
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar <
> shrikant.ingalhali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Stephen,
>> This shows a climber with pinnate leaves and a flower with 5 petals in 2
>> series. Please show the full image besides a close up to be able to guess
>> the plant. Regards
>>
>> On Wednesday, 27 January 2016 10:19:44 UTC+5:30, Stephen Markel wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear group,
>>>
>>> Can anyone help I.D. what flower is depicted in the attached image
>>> detail from an enamelled pendant from Jaipur, India?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>> *Stephen Markel, Ph.D.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Senior Research Curator
>>>
>>> South and Southeast Asian Art
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Los Angeles County Museum of Art
>>>
>>> 5905 Wilshire Blvd.
>>>
>>> Los Angeles, CA 90036-​4504 USA
>>>
>>> *www.lacma.org *
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:239183] Re: flower I.D. needed

[Ushadi Micromini]

in my original reply to Stephen on 29th Jan 2016 i had  not noticed that
our own address was not on the cc list  sorry
so here is my msg as sent to Stephen then...
I quote
"
Stephen
Its a stylized Lotus
Not very accurate is it?

Yet the three lower leaves are more or less commonly seen in the Rangoli
arts where  a lotus is depicted every morning outside of homes or on
special occasions.  Though the upper part of the flower only shows the
central part of the rangoli motif, i imagine its abbreviated in a piece of
jewelry.

Also the central upper part seems to be conveying the mangal ghat...
usually a sacred vessel of that shape.

But since its a piece of jewelry i guess its just a  lotus, in its stylized
form.


the leaves leave a lot to be desired in the accuracy rating too...

but that's the artist's prerogative to create a pleasing  motif.

You'll see such examples of stylized flowers a plenty in most of the inlays
too  Taj mahal i mean.

*Since you are the curator*, I would be very interested to know how you
catalogue this piece ultimately .  Even if for your museum's internal
records.


usha di"

end quote


On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Ushadi Micromini 
wrote:

> Yes Smita
> Its a lotus
> usha di
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Smita Raskar 
> wrote:
>
>> It is just a design of leaves
>> Gold smith has nothing to do about botany
>> I only guessed flower because normally symbolic lotus flower is used in
>> jewellery design
>> It is believed that Goddess Saraswati likes lotuses so it used in design
>> Regards
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar <
>> shrikant.ingalhali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Stephen,
>>> This shows a climber with pinnate leaves and a flower with 5 petals in 2
>>> series. Please show the full image besides a close up to be able to guess
>>> the plant. Regards
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 27 January 2016 10:19:44 UTC+5:30, Stephen Markel wrote:

 Dear group,

 Can anyone help I.D. what flower is depicted in the attached image
 detail from an enamelled pendant from Jaipur, India?

 Thank you,


 *Stephen Markel, Ph.D.*



 Senior Research Curator

 South and Southeast Asian Art



 Los Angeles County Museum of Art

 5905 Wilshire Blvd.

 Los Angeles, CA 90036-​4504 USA

 *www.lacma.org *



 T 323 857-6091 | F 323 932-5832

 E *sma...@lacma.org*


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Re: [efloraofindia:239184] Re: Quercus semecarpifolia ABJAN01/15

[Ushadi Micromini]

superb

two types of leaves
need to search ..why?

is that a tree hollow where the child is standing?
 a fallen tree?

usha di

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Ashwini Bhatia 
wrote:

> I left out one photo in the group that shows the sulphur yellow-brown
> undersides of leaves.
>
> Here it is.
>
> Thanks.
> Ashwini
>
>
>
>
> On 29 January 2016 at 19:27, Ashwini Bhatia 
> wrote:
>
>> Last Sunday I went trekking in the mountains with my ten year old and a
>> couple of friends. For me the idea was to see how the vegetation differs as
>> the altitude increases. We started at about 1800m among the familiar chir
>> pines, blue pines, deodar cedars, ban oaks, rhododendrons, *Neolitsea
>> pallens*, staggerbush, sour cherry and wild pear. Till about 2000m the
>> wood was similarly mixed with the same species. Just at that height, the
>> rhododendrons (*R. arboreum*) began to dominate but some ban oaks (*Q.
>> leucotrichophora*) and *Neolitsia pallens* still managed to grow among
>> them. The understorey was still mostly sweetbox (*Sarcococca saligna*)
>> and paper plant (*Daphne papyracea*) but the new addition was the
>> butterfly bush (*Buddleja paniculata*). At about 2200m rhododendrons
>> became the dominant trees and there were beautiful specimens, some of which
>> were quite large with hollow boles. Above 2400m, I saw my first kharsu oak 
>> (*Q.
>> semecarpifolia) *and admired its glossy dark leaves with brown
>> undersides. A little further there were many large specimens of this
>> beautiful oak and soon it dominated the hill sides. I saw a couple of
>> Himalayan Holly plants in fruit too.
>>
>> At the top in Triund (ca. 3000m), where we had intended to reach, there
>> were only kharsu oaks with an occasional rhododendron bush. Some
>> cotoneaster (perhaps *C. rotundifolius*) plants with red fruits were on
>> the slopes. I brought a few kharsu oak leaves down and photographed them to
>> share here.
>>
>> Kharsu oak has been on these hills since ancient times making it one of
>> the originals here. Acorns develop during the monsoon (hence I could not
>> collect any for a close look) and are favourite foods of our sloth bears.
>> The foliage is more nutritious that the ban oak and the shepherds collect
>> it for their sheep when they are in the mountains. The leaves can be round
>> and entire or oblong and spiky on the same tree. Many of the specimens were
>> huge, reaching more than 60 feet. The larger ones had hollow trunks and I
>> wonder how the trees survived on such outwardly flimsy support.
>>
>>
>> *Quercus semecarpifolia*—Kharsu Oak
>> 24 January 2016,
>> 2400m and above,
>> Between Gallu Temple and Triund, Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Ashwini
>>
>>
>>
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[efloraofindia:239185] Indexing of Journal of BNHS

[Ushadi Micromini]

Great job, Aasheesh

Congratulations

will be useful for countless folks



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Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:239186] 30-TSP-ID-13JAN2016-2-Kottigehara:Loranthaceae sp for ID

[Ushadi Micromini]

the plant list is // has been unhappily received eversince it started
partly their ignorance
partly lack of data to back up our assertions in our own flora

both can be rectified, by deligence
takes time and willingness


I agree with Tapasda ignore plant list  when we have our own literature
usha di

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 1:30 AM, tsp kumar  wrote:

> Thanks Tapas ji for the info.Your advise is well taken.Even I think that
> it is better to rely on our own floras without bothering on nomenclatures
> contained elsewhere.Thanks again and regards.
> tspkumar
> On 30 Jan 2016 00:00, "Tapas Chakrabarty"  wrote:
>
>> TSP ji,
>> Please do not bother about the plant list for the present.  It is simply
>> a compilation and maintained by Rafael Govaerts at Kew. There are many
>> Indian plants in the list for which they will show the status
>>  "unresolved".  The family Loranthaceae was worked out by Prof. Rajasekaran
>> of Presidency College Madras but he could not see the same in print as he
>> was no more in 2012 when Fl. India Vol. 23 was finally published.  The keys
>> were prepared by him. While updating the work for the Volume I simply
>> reduced the descriptions as per the requirements and tried to maintain the
>> latest nomenclature. Please try to identify your images with the keys and
>> descriptions now available with you and fix the identity. Correct name can
>> be fixed any time. Updates in Loranthaceae are available, but none from
>> Karnataka so far.
>> Regards,
>> Tapas.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:08 PM, tsp kumar  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Tapas ji and regards.Keeping My finger crossed as to how the
>>> species is to be considered as to its nomenclature since the Plant List
>>> considers M.trigonus as an unresolved name...!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 10:31 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Please refer to Flora of India Volume 23 wherein Dendrophthoe trigona
 is treated as *Macrosolen trigonus.*
 Vide: C.J. Saldanha, Fl. Karnataka 2: 76. 1996.

 On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:49 PM, tsp kumar 
 wrote:

> Thanks for your feedback Shivaprakash ji. The specimen in question is
> identical to the specimen that was earlier identified as* Dendropthoe
> trigona* (31-TSP-ID-13JAN2016-3). I think Navendu ji is right. It has
> to be* D.trigona..!*
> regards
> -tspkumar
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 9:52 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Shivaprakash Nv
>> Date: 27 January 2016 at 18:50
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:238495]
>> 30-TSP-ID-13JAN2016-2-Kottigehara:Loranthaceae sp for ID
>> To: jmgarg1 
>>
>>
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> Please check with Macrosolen spp.
>>
>> Regards
>> Shiva
>> On 27 Jan 2016 15:46, "J.M. Garg"  wrote:
>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance  please.
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: tsp kumar 
>>> Date: 13 January 2016 at 20:34
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:238495]
>>> 30-TSP-ID-13JAN2016-2-Kottigehara:Loranthaceae sp for ID
>>> To: efloraofindia 
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear friends,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindly identify this Loranthaceae sp..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Habit:Woody parasite
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Habitat:Wild,Evergreen forest
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sighting:Kottigehara,Chikmagalur,Karnataka,about 1200 msl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Date:28-11-2015
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards
>>>
>>> tspkumar
>>>
>>> Deputy Conservator of Forests
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Ph:988057158
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>>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:239190] Fwd: vijigiri.din...@gmail.com sent you an image file!

[Sheetal Pachpande]

Its Parkia biglandulosa
On 02-Feb-2016 11:40, "Vijigiri Dinesh"  wrote:

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> To: efloraofindia 
> Cc:
>
> Sir
> Plus identify the plant
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Re: [efloraofindia:239191] Re: efloraofindia:''For Id ornamental with yellow flowers at Pune :Jan 2016: MR-06”

[Ushadi Micromini]

Kalanchoe blossfeldiana has flowers with four petals only

this is a cultivar with double flowers or almost multiple layers of petals
reminiscent of minaiture roses
nursery trade forces these massive flowering to make them attractive
comes in many colored flowers including even a yucky green flower ( see
this utube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtK7Ad_HKNU)

there is a cultivar called CALANDIVA series popular in houseplant shops
selling with these massive flowers at top lasting a few weeks  once you
bring them home... then just leaves if you are lucky to over summer
them getting leggy  uninteresting and almost no flowers in the indian
urban  setting

second flowering is difficult unless you know exactly how and have
excperimented a lot.  I should know i aghve brought
 lot of these home for late fall and early winter to cheer up the dreary
winter blahs

bottom line
this is Kalanchoe blossfeldiana CALANDIVA (registered) series .

enjoy
usha di


On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Bhagyashri  wrote:

> Aarti ji,
> Thank you for the Id . yes it is Kalanchoe dwarf
> Regards
> Bhagyashri
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Aarti S. Khale 
> wrote:
>
>> Bhagyashri Ji,
>> Kindly check for Kalanchoe blossfeldiana of Crassulaceae.
>> Commonly known as Flaming Katy.
>> Regards,
>> Aarti
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 4:55:09 PM UTC+4, Bhagyashri Ranade
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear friends,
>>> 27/1/2016 Pune
>>> requesting to Id is ornamental plant at Pune
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Re: [efloraofindia:239191] Re: efloraofindia:''For Id ornamental with yellow flowers at Pune :Jan 2016: MR-06”

[Ushadi Micromini]

oh i forgot to say

dwarf kalanchoe still has four petaled flowers

this case Bhagyashri you are showing is not the plant that is  known in the
trade as dwarf kalanchoe
usha di

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Ushadi Micromini  wrote:

> Kalanchoe blossfeldiana has flowers with four petals only
>
> this is a cultivar with double flowers or almost multiple layers of petals
> reminiscent of minaiture roses
> nursery trade forces these massive flowering to make them attractive
> comes in many colored flowers including even a yucky green flower ( see
> this utube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtK7Ad_HKNU)
>
> there is a cultivar called CALANDIVA series popular in houseplant shops
> selling with these massive flowers at top lasting a few weeks  once you
> bring them home... then just leaves if you are lucky to over summer
> them getting leggy  uninteresting and almost no flowers in the indian
> urban  setting
>
> second flowering is difficult unless you know exactly how and have
> excperimented a lot.  I should know i aghve brought
>  lot of these home for late fall and early winter to cheer up the dreary
> winter blahs
>
> bottom line
> this is Kalanchoe blossfeldiana CALANDIVA (registered) series .
>
> enjoy
> usha di
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Bhagyashri  wrote:
>
>> Aarti ji,
>> Thank you for the Id . yes it is Kalanchoe dwarf
>> Regards
>> Bhagyashri
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Aarti S. Khale 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bhagyashri Ji,
>>> Kindly check for Kalanchoe blossfeldiana of Crassulaceae.
>>> Commonly known as Flaming Katy.
>>> Regards,
>>> Aarti
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 4:55:09 PM UTC+4, Bhagyashri Ranade
>>> wrote:

 Dear friends,
 27/1/2016 Pune
 requesting to Id is ornamental plant at Pune
 --
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Re: [efloraofindia:239193] Re: Quercus semecarpifolia ABJAN01/15

[ashwini]

Thank you Ushadi. It would be interesting to know why some trees/plants evolved 
that way. If I am not wrong some other oaks such as Holm Oak (Q. ilex) also 
have leaves that are either entire or spiky. Someone told me the other day that 
the European Holly too has toothed leaves lower and less spiky leaves higher up 
on the tree.

I will try and find out why that is so. But if you find out before me, please 
share.

Regards,
Ashwini

> On 02-Feb-2016, at 6:07 AM, Ushadi Micromini  
> wrote:
> 
> superb
> 
> two types of leaves 
> need to search ..why?
> 
> is that a tree hollow where the child is standing?
>  a fallen tree?
> 
> usha di
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Ashwini Bhatia  
>> wrote:
>> I left out one photo in the group that shows the sulphur yellow-brown 
>> undersides of leaves.
>> 
>> Here it is.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Ashwini
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 January 2016 at 19:27, Ashwini Bhatia  
>>> wrote:
>>> Last Sunday I went trekking in the mountains with my ten year old and a 
>>> couple of friends. For me the idea was to see how the vegetation differs as 
>>> the altitude increases. We started at about 1800m among the familiar chir 
>>> pines, blue pines, deodar cedars, ban oaks, rhododendrons, Neolitsea 
>>> pallens, staggerbush, sour cherry and wild pear. Till about 2000m the wood 
>>> was similarly mixed with the same species. Just at that height, the 
>>> rhododendrons (R. arboreum) began to dominate but some ban oaks (Q. 
>>> leucotrichophora) and Neolitsia pallens still managed to grow among them. 
>>> The understorey was still mostly sweetbox (Sarcococca saligna) and paper 
>>> plant (Daphne papyracea) but the new addition was the butterfly bush 
>>> (Buddleja paniculata). At about 2200m rhododendrons became the dominant 
>>> trees and there were beautiful specimens, some of which were quite large 
>>> with hollow boles. Above 2400m, I saw my first kharsu oak (Q. 
>>> semecarpifolia) and admired its glossy dark leaves with brown undersides. A 
>>> little further there were many large specimens of this beautiful oak and 
>>> soon it dominated the hill sides. I saw a couple of Himalayan Holly plants 
>>> in fruit too. 
>>> 
>>> At the top in Triund (ca. 3000m), where we had intended to reach, there 
>>> were only kharsu oaks with an occasional rhododendron bush. Some 
>>> cotoneaster (perhaps C. rotundifolius) plants with red fruits were on the 
>>> slopes. I brought a few kharsu oak leaves down and photographed them to 
>>> share here.
>>> 
>>> Kharsu oak has been on these hills since ancient times making it one of the 
>>> originals here. Acorns develop during the monsoon (hence I could not 
>>> collect any for a close look) and are favourite foods of our sloth bears. 
>>> The foliage is more nutritious that the ban oak and the shepherds collect 
>>> it for their sheep when they are in the mountains. The leaves can be round 
>>> and entire or oblong and spiky on the same tree. Many of the specimens were 
>>> huge, reaching more than 60 feet. The larger ones had hollow trunks and I 
>>> wonder how the trees survived on such outwardly flimsy support.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Quercus semecarpifolia—Kharsu Oak
>>> 24 January 2016,
>>> 2400m and above,
>>> Between Gallu Temple and Triund, Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ashwini
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Re: [efloraofindia:239194] vijigiri.din...@gmail.com sent you an image file!

[Ushadi Micromini]

what did the tree look like

better details of the leaflet numbers etc are important
size of each

there is a standard format for submitting specimen
please access it ar tht emembers page
thanks

usha di

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Re: [efloraofindia:239195] vijigiri.din...@gmail.com sent you an image file!

[Vijigiri Dinesh]

Thanks sir
On 2 Feb 2016 12:51 pm, "Ushadi Micromini" 
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> what did the tree look like
>
> better details of the leaflet numbers etc are important
> size of each
>
> there is a standard format for submitting specimen
> please access it ar tht emembers page
> thanks
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