from:"H S"

Re: [efloraofindia:69841] Haplanthodes verticillatus

2011-05-20 Thread H S

Who says its scientific name is unresolved...
making new common name or local name is always confusing..
i dont go with such concept ..

none of flora work ask to make new common name.. if there are some can
be reported... because its always benefecial for the local people to
know about the plants...

There are many new common name made purposely instead of plant having
some or the other common name...

There are many examples... will not quote them... as it will hurt to
many of photographer on the site itself..

On 5/20/11, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote:
via Species https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species‎
‎H https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/h‎ ‎
*Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R. B. Majumdar
[image: Haplanthodes
verticillatus]http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5363645471/

[image: Flowers of
India]http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Spiny%20Bottle%20Brush.html[image:
Discussions at
efloraofindia]https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Haplanthodes%20verticillatus[image:
more views in
flickr]http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Haplanthodesverticillatusm=tagsz=m[image:
more views on Google
Earth]http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/geo/india/tags=Haplanthodesverticillatusformat=kml_nl

*commonly known as*: spiny bottle
brushhttps://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/spiny-bottle-brush
• *Hindi*:
kastulahttps://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/kastula
• *Marathi*: जकारा jakara
https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/jakara-jakara

*botanical names*: *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar ... *
synonyms*: *Bremekampia verticillata* (Roxb.) Sreem. • *Haplanthus
verticillatus* (Roxb.) Nees • *Justicia verticillata* Roxb. (basionym)

*note*: most of the names are unresolved; an erroneous name *Haplanthodes
verticillata* is also found on internet

Regards.
Dinesh

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Dinesh Valke
dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote:

Dear HS,

There is an adjective spiny added to bottle brush, thus spiny bottle
brush,
... certainly different from the popularly known bottle brush.
This common name is coined by Flowers of India, otherwise this plant would
have no name to know with.

Most of the endemic plants of Konkan are not known by any name ... perhaps
because the regional folks have not found (or discovered) any good use.

For this particular plant, the botanical names themselves are unresolved
for some reason(s).

Regards.
Dinesh

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:36 AM, H S hemsan...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Dinesh Ji..
Bottle brush look altogether different structure from this one...
Just wanted to know from where this common name is taken..

On 5/20/11, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote:
... this is a name coined to suit the nature of the plant ... alludes
to
the
general appearance and form of the crowded leaves occurring in whorls
at
the
plant top ... the leaves have two spinous teeth at the tip and are
covered
with long spreading hair.

Regards.
Dinesh

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:54 AM, H S hemsan...@gmail.com wrote:

Spiny Bottle Brush .. which literature code this name..
Please inform..

On 5/20/11, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi,
Agree with Dinesh. My photographs of this plant are available at
this
link:

https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/de79ae1a52a34dc0/ebf489dc0ed9aec0?hl=enlnk=gstq=Haplanthodes+verticillatus+neil+Soares#ebf489dc0ed9aec0

Regards,
Neil Soares.

--- On Thu, 5/19/11, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:69817] Haplanthodes verticillatus
To: J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com
Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Satish
Phadke
drsmpha...@gmail.com, le...@rediffmail.com, tchak...@gmail.com,
ajinkyagad...@gmail.com, agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in,
aparnawat...@gmail.com,
raanibha...@gmail.com, neha.vind...@gmail.com, rahumu...@gmail.com,
plumbagozeylan...@gmail.com
Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 10:45 PM

... yes Satish ji, Haplanthodes verticillatus ... the leaves have
two
spinous teeth at the tip ... the Spiny Bottle Brush at Flowers of
India.
Regards.
Dinesh

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:05 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com
wrote:

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
Date: 7 February 2011 20:30
Subject: [efloraofindia:62298] Haplanthodes verticillatus
To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

Haplanthodes verticillatus
Observed in Karnala forest

Re: [efloraofindia:69842] Haplanthodes verticillatus

2011-05-20 Thread H S

There is name Kala-ankara or Kala-kiraita for Haplanthodes

On 5/20/11, H S hemsan...@gmail.com wrote:
Who says its scientific name is unresolved...
making new common name or local name is always confusing..
i dont go with such concept ..

none of flora work ask to make new common name.. if there are some can
be reported... because its always benefecial for the local people to
know about the plants...

There are many new common name made purposely instead of plant having
some or the other common name...

There are many examples... will not quote them... as it will hurt to
many of photographer on the site itself..

On 5/20/11, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote:
via Species
https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species‎
‎H https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/h‎
‎
*Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R. B. Majumdar
[image: Haplanthodes
verticillatus]http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5363645471/

*botanical names*: *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar ...
*
synonyms*: *Bremekampia verticillata* (Roxb.) Sreem. • *Haplanthus
verticillatus* (Roxb.) Nees • *Justicia verticillata* Roxb. (basionym)

*note*: most of the names are unresolved; an erroneous name *Haplanthodes
verticillata* is also found on internet

Regards.
Dinesh

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Dinesh Valke
dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote:

Dear HS,

Most of the endemic plants of Konkan are not known by any name ...
perhaps
because the regional folks have not found (or discovered) any good use.

For this particular plant, the botanical names themselves are unresolved
for some reason(s).

Regards.
Dinesh

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:36 AM, H S hemsan...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Dinesh Ji..
Bottle brush look altogether different structure from this one...
Just wanted to know from where this common name is taken..

Regards.
Dinesh

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:54 AM, H S hemsan...@gmail.com wrote:

Spiny Bottle Brush .. which literature code this name..
Please inform..

On 5/20/11, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi,
Agree with Dinesh. My photographs of this plant are available at
this
link:

https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/de79ae1a52a34dc0/ebf489dc0ed9aec0?hl=enlnk=gstq=Haplanthodes+verticillatus+neil+Soares#ebf489dc0ed9aec0

Regards,
Neil Soares.

--- On Thu, 5/19/11, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:69817] Haplanthodes verticillatus
To: J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com
Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Satish
Phadke
drsmpha...@gmail.com, le...@rediffmail.com, tchak...@gmail.com,
ajinkyagad...@gmail.com, agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in,
aparnawat...@gmail.com,
raanibha...@gmail.com, neha.vind...@gmail.com,
rahumu...@gmail.com,
plumbagozeylan...@gmail.com
Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 10:45 PM

... yes Satish ji, Haplanthodes verticillatus ... the leaves have
two
spinous teeth at the tip ... the Spiny Bottle Brush at Flowers of
India.
Regards.
Dinesh

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:05 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com
wrote:

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
Date: 7 February 2011 20:30
Subject: [efloraofindia:62298] Haplanthodes

Re: [efloraofindia:69856] Diospyros montana tree - fruiting

2011-05-20 Thread H S

To me it doesnt look like D. montana..
reason: 1. venation on leaf margin not like of D. montana..
2. Here leaves look opp. whereas in D. montana more or less alternate..

On 5/20/11, raghu ananth raghu_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Diospyros montana tree - fruiting,  a forest variety

 (Vernacular: Jagala ganti mara meaning Quarrelsome tree, Hope the ID is
 correct)

 Bandipura forest, Karnataka
 07 Jan 2011 3:47PM

 An earlier discussion link on Diospyros montana
 https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/d9d83eedfb8abb67/80c537de63ea863b?hl=enlnk=gstq=jagala+ganti#80c537de63ea863b


 Regards
 Raghu


-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:69810] Re: Please Identify this tall, dark handsome tree from Aarey Colony

2011-05-19 Thread H S

I will also go with S. mahogany


-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:69823] Re: Dillenia from Vietnam_RKC_01_25042011

2011-05-19 Thread H S

It can be Dillenia alata


On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes Ritesh ji, I was all the time wondering about the venation in your
 photographs. In most species of Dillenia including D. suffruticosa the
 lateral veins are very prominent, but not in your photographs. D. alata does
 have faint veins seen in your plant. Let us wait for more comments.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Ritesh Choudhary ritesh@gmail.comwrote:

 How about Dillenia alata?

 Any comment on the number of petals in Dillenia. I cant see any photo
 of Dillenia on net with 4 petals.

 However, the floras report the range from 4-7.

 Regards,
 Ritesh.







-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:69830] Haplanthodes verticillatus

2011-05-19 Thread H S

Spiny Bottle Brush .. which literature code this name..
Please inform..


On 5/20/11, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,
  Agree with Dinesh. My photographs of this plant are available at this link:

 https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/de79ae1a52a34dc0/ebf489dc0ed9aec0?hl=enlnk=gstq=Haplanthodes+verticillatus+neil+Soares#ebf489dc0ed9aec0

     Regards,
  Neil Soares.

 --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote:


 From: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:69817] Haplanthodes verticillatus
 To: J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com
 Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Satish Phadke
 drsmpha...@gmail.com, le...@rediffmail.com, tchak...@gmail.com,
 ajinkyagad...@gmail.com, agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in, aparnawat...@gmail.com,
 raanibha...@gmail.com, neha.vind...@gmail.com, rahumu...@gmail.com,
 plumbagozeylan...@gmail.com
 Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 10:45 PM


 ... yes Satish ji, Haplanthodes verticillatus ... the leaves have two
 spinous teeth at the tip ... the Spiny Bottle Brush at Flowers of India.
 Regards.
 Dinesh





 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:05 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:


 Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.





 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
 Date: 7 February 2011 20:30
 Subject: [efloraofindia:62298] Haplanthodes verticillatus
 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 Haplanthodes verticillatus
 Observed in Karnala forest 6Feb 2011
 Cladodes more than 2cm long
 Pl. validate.
 Dr Phadke



 --

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-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:69832] ID request -07022011-PKA1

2011-05-19 Thread H S

Paramignya monophylla

On 5/20/11, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com wrote:
 माकड लिंबू ?

 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Vijayasankar
 vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think it is *Paramignya monophylla*.

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi



 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:39 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
 Some earlier relevant feedback:
 some kind of lemon . from Ajinkya ji.


 “Nipple at tip is missing. *Could be Citrus medica*!!” from Singh ji.


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com
 Date: 7 February 2011 21:36
 Subject: [efloraofindia:62308] ID request -07022011-PKA1
 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 Dear Friends,

 I had seen these fruits on the drooping branches. Branches were seen to
 be
 armed with   thorns at the leaf axil.

 Date/time: 20-01-2011 / 05:50PM
 Location: Yana (North Karnataka)
 Habitat: Wild
 Leaves Opposite..

 regards
 Prashant



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 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora  Fauna'
 The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*
 eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
 alphabetically  place-wise):
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
 them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
 For identification, learning, discussion  documentation of Indian Flora,
 please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
 http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1600 members 
 69,000 messages on 30/4/11) or Efloraofindia website:
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of
 around 4500 species)






-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:69835] Gnetum ula and Gnetum scandens

2011-05-19 Thread H S

Both the fotos are Gnetum indicum (Syn. G. ula Brogn.)  (foto
representing with name G. ula showing male cone) and (foto
representing G. scandens is female cone)..

Common in Western Ghat in Evergreen and semievergreen forest..

G. ula is nom. illeg.
We must follow name G. indicum (Lour.) Merrill

On 5/4/11, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Gurucharanji, Tanayji and Sidji, a small correction. After critical
 examination of both the specimen and literature review, it is found that
 both the species are are Gnetum ula Brongn (G. scandens auct. non Roxb).
 While one is the male cone, the other is the female cone (berry like).
 Thanks for the suggestion. I wl do the needful in my next postings of plants
 in the group.

 Regards

 Prasad

 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Sid sidd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Prasad ji,

 Thanks for your nice photographs of Gnetum ula and G. scandens. What is
 the
 difference between the two species ?

 Regards,
 Sid.

 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:41 PM, prasad dash
 prasad.dash2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear all sharing the images of Gnetum ula and Gnetum scandens for ur
 reference. I have collected both the species from same locality, i.e from
 Nayagarh district of Orissa in my last visit (29th April to 1st May, 11).
 Both are climbers and growing wild near perennial hill streams (Orissa
 semi
 ever green forest at an altitude of 600 m above msl.). Please validate.

 Regards

 Prasad

 --
 Prasad Kumar Dash
 Ecologist, Orissa, India
 email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com
 ph. 09437444241





 --
 Prasad Kumar Dash
 Ecologist, Orissa, India
 email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com
 ph. 09437444241



-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:69766] Is this tree Haldina cordifolia? please confirm

2011-05-18 Thread H S

In Marathi it is called Kalam,, and Kadam is referred to Neolamarkia cadamba
(which is found near water vicinity)

 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:69769] Re: Please Identify this tall, dark handsome tree from Aarey Colony

2011-05-18 Thread H S

Wat difference you can make out from this foto between S. mahogany and S.
macrophylla..

 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:69670] Re: Dolichandrone spathacea : Samudrasinghi : 090511 : AK-2

2011-05-17 Thread H S

Dolichandrone spathacea (Linn. f.) K. Schum. is obviously not a MANGROVE
species in India it is considered a Mangrove species in Singapore...
which mostly grows back of the mangroves...

anyone can locate this species in semi-evergreen forest or deciduous
forest,, mostly near some forts.. in Maharashtra...

Its common name is Medshingi... dont know from where Samudrashingi name
came

Plant is Native to Asia and New Caledonia
-- 



 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:69708] PLEASE ID THE CLIMBER

2011-05-17 Thread H S

It is Elaeagnus conferta Roxb.


 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

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