[efloraofindia:327202] Fwd: [itpmods:12933] Fwd: Internship work in eFloraofindia
-- Forwarded message - From: J.M. Garg Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 09:09 Subject: Re: [itpmods:12933] Fwd: Internship work in eFloraofindia To: itpmods Haha!!! Thanks, Pankaj ji. I will also do the same for you, Singh ji, Dinesh ji, Nidhan ji, Manoj Chandran ji, Sabu ji and so many others here, if I ever get any such opportunity. On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 09:06, Pankaj Kumar wrote: > Government has no reason to recognise unless we are asking for funds. > One day infact I can invisage PM Modi mentioning Garg sir's name in Man ki > Baat :) > > On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 11:25, J.M. Garg wrote: > >> Thanks, Pankaj ji. >> I always thought of voluntary internship, which a student takes to >> utilize his spare time in holidays and has nothing to do with formal >> compulsory internship. >> We wants to maintain our paperless & meeting free working and does not >> want our selves be involved in any bureaucratic hassles. >> Here also we would like to maintain the same standards. If it is >> acceptable it is OK. If not, than also OK. >> >> On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 07:32, Pankaj Kumar wrote: >> >>> I never said that working on efi is not a good idea or has no meaning. >>> Internships are of three types and all three types atleast gives >>> experience to the student. >>> >>> 1. One which is chosen by the student and he or she has the freedom to >>> do what he/she wants and is recognised as a voluntary work, but has no mark >>> value but is supposed to be a part of course the person is undertaking.What >>> the student get is an authorised certificate. >>> 2. Second is a compulsion as a part of their course study and they must >>> do it from a recognised organisation, and the student gets a particular >>> marks for that. What the student get is an authorised certificate. >>> 3. Third is a voluntary act, students get nothing out of it except >>> experience. In this we can give a recommendation letter to the student. I >>> or any one of us can write a letter on respective letterhead stating their >>> involvement and conduct. But this is not certificate. >>> >>> In Hong Kong there is a thing called summer internship and it has to be >>> done from a recognised organisation and hence the organisation is contacted >>> by the students university. Students get some bonus marks for that and its >>> a part of their curriculum and infact if the organisation doesnt give a >>> positive certificate (very rarely if student does something bad) then >>> student may also be expelled from their university. >>> Now, how to get efi involved in this? >>> The best way would be to get it recognised by a UGC recognised >>> university. Then for example a staff member or ex-staff member of >>> University along with Garg sir and some others can sign the certificate, >>> endorsing that the intern has done some work on the efloraofindia from the >>> period of xxx to xxx. >>> Chinese Virtual Herbarium in China is run by the university staff >>> members and anyone involved is recognised by their perfomance based on >>> number of species contributed, number of pics contributed, number of id >>> contributed etc. But as it is run by the University staff itself, hence it >>> is well recognised and it matters for a member to be participating in it. >>> Ours is a different case. >>> We should either get ourself recognised by a university of an >>> organisation. >>> I suggest there are two ways: >>> Officially recognised by any University which any of our current or >>> ex-faculty members can do by putting it up with their university board. >>> Then the certificate can be signed with a logo >>> or >>> Write a letter to Ministry of Environment and Forests and tell them >>> about our work and get it recognised by them (the main basis being it is >>> selfless effort by both scientists and citizen-scientists). It may take >>> some time to get recognised but once done, it would certainly be an >>> achievement. I would suggest this to be done by Gurcharan sir as he is >>> based in Delhi and is well recognised. >>> >>> Please remember that I am not against it, rather I want the intern to >>> earn some authentic certificate from us apart from experience. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 00:06, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>> Yes it is a good idea. We have to do our bit to make the group popular. I latest Fourth International Edition of my book "Plant Systematics An Integrated Approach" released in June, 2019 I have added the followng paragraph: Last few years have seen the spurt of internet-based exchange of information. Efloraofindia (formerly Indiantreepix) https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ is one of the biggest non-commercial website, based on photographic collection of plants. It is documenting flora of India that is being discussed on efloraofindia google e-group https://groups.google.com/forum/indiantreepix, devoted to creating awareness, helping in identification,
[efloraofindia:327202] Fwd: [itpmods:12933] Fwd: Internship work in eFloraofindia
-- Forwarded message - From: Pankaj Kumar Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 09:06 Subject: Re: [itpmods:12933] Fwd: Internship work in eFloraofindia To: itpmods Government has no reason to recognise unless we are asking for funds. One day infact I can invisage PM Modi mentioning Garg sir's name in Man ki Baat :) On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 11:25, J.M. Garg wrote: > Thanks, Pankaj ji. > I always thought of voluntary internship, which a student takes to utilize > his spare time in holidays and has nothing to do with formal compulsory > internship. > We wants to maintain our paperless & meeting free working and does not > want our selves be involved in any bureaucratic hassles. > Here also we would like to maintain the same standards. If it is > acceptable it is OK. If not, than also OK. > > On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 07:32, Pankaj Kumar wrote: > >> I never said that working on efi is not a good idea or has no meaning. >> Internships are of three types and all three types atleast gives >> experience to the student. >> >> 1. One which is chosen by the student and he or she has the freedom to do >> what he/she wants and is recognised as a voluntary work, but has no mark >> value but is supposed to be a part of course the person is undertaking.What >> the student get is an authorised certificate. >> 2. Second is a compulsion as a part of their course study and they must >> do it from a recognised organisation, and the student gets a particular >> marks for that. What the student get is an authorised certificate. >> 3. Third is a voluntary act, students get nothing out of it except >> experience. In this we can give a recommendation letter to the student. I >> or any one of us can write a letter on respective letterhead stating their >> involvement and conduct. But this is not certificate. >> >> In Hong Kong there is a thing called summer internship and it has to be >> done from a recognised organisation and hence the organisation is contacted >> by the students university. Students get some bonus marks for that and its >> a part of their curriculum and infact if the organisation doesnt give a >> positive certificate (very rarely if student does something bad) then >> student may also be expelled from their university. >> Now, how to get efi involved in this? >> The best way would be to get it recognised by a UGC recognised >> university. Then for example a staff member or ex-staff member of >> University along with Garg sir and some others can sign the certificate, >> endorsing that the intern has done some work on the efloraofindia from the >> period of xxx to xxx. >> Chinese Virtual Herbarium in China is run by the university staff members >> and anyone involved is recognised by their perfomance based on number of >> species contributed, number of pics contributed, number of id contributed >> etc. But as it is run by the University staff itself, hence it is well >> recognised and it matters for a member to be participating in it. >> Ours is a different case. >> We should either get ourself recognised by a university of an >> organisation. >> I suggest there are two ways: >> Officially recognised by any University which any of our current or >> ex-faculty members can do by putting it up with their university board. >> Then the certificate can be signed with a logo >> or >> Write a letter to Ministry of Environment and Forests and tell them about >> our work and get it recognised by them (the main basis being it is selfless >> effort by both scientists and citizen-scientists). It may take some time to >> get recognised but once done, it would certainly be an achievement. I would >> suggest this to be done by Gurcharan sir as he is based in Delhi and is >> well recognised. >> >> Please remember that I am not against it, rather I want the intern to >> earn some authentic certificate from us apart from experience. >> >> >> >> On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 00:06, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >> >>> Yes it is a good idea. We have to do our bit to make the group popular. >>> I latest Fourth International Edition of my book "Plant Systematics An >>> Integrated Approach" released in June, 2019 I have added the followng >>> paragraph: >>> >>> Last few years have seen the spurt of internet-based exchange of >>> information. Efloraofindia (formerly >>> Indiantreepix) https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ is one of >>> the biggest non-commercial website, >>> based on photographic collection of plants. It is documenting flora of >>> India that is being discussed on >>> efloraofindia google e-group >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/indiantreepix, devoted to creating >>> awareness, >>> helping in identification, discussion and documentation of Indian Flora. >>> It also has the largest database >>> on net on Indian Flora with more than 12,000 species (along with more >>> than 3,00,000 pictures. It also >>> includes species from other parts of world. >>> This will also be there in Fourth Edition of Indian version "Plant
