RE: list of modules

2002-02-06 Thread Van Ung


Please remove me from the distribution list

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Subject: Re: list of modules


On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 Is it possible for a cvs client to obtain a list of the available modules
 on the remote server ?
 (In an other way than reading the module file in CVSROOT)
 Thanks

cvs co -c will do the job.

Lars

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cvs advice

2002-02-06 Thread Alvarez Lorencio, Maria Jesus

Hi all,
 
I´m totally new to CVS and I wonder if someone who is not a programmer, engineer...  
only has little knowledge about RCS, should be able to manage this tool.
I´m talking about me, obviously.
Don´t ask me about how I have arrived to this point. Boss only knows...
Every day I read the e-mails, the cederqvist and everything that I could find. I´ve 
got no program install yet buy the day it´s going to arrive and I don´t known what I´m 
going to do...
 
Larry, any advice ?
 
Thanks a lot

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cvs advice

2002-02-06 Thread Alvarez Lorencio, Maria Jesus

Hi all,
 
I´m totally new to CVS and I wonder if someone who is not a programmer, engineer... 
with a little knowledge about RCS should be able to manage this tool. I´m talking 
about me, obviously.
 
I read the info-cvs e-mails every day, the cederqvist and everything that I find but 
I´m not very sure. The program has not be installed yet (don´t know which version is 
going to run) but the day is arriving...and I´m terrified.
 
I´m suppose to keep the files in the repository (checkin, checkout), do backups and 
that´s all. I hope so
 
Any advice to start?
 
Thanks a lot

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Re: cvs advice

2002-02-06 Thread Matt Riechers

Alvarez Lorencio, Maria Jesus wrote:
 
 I read the info-cvs e-mails every day, the cederqvist and everything that I find but 
I´m not very sure. The program has not be installed yet (don´t know which version is 
going to run) but the day is arriving...and I´m terrified.

The only way to learn a new tool is by using it.

You don't have to wait for CVS to be installed for you, unless you don't have
internet access. You should get aquainted with CVS by creating a scratch
repository with a few sample files to get the hang of it, before you deal with a
production system. When you aren't sure what some command does, you can always
go back to your scratch repository to try stuff out w/o fear of damaging
something important.

There is a learning curve to CVS, but day-to-day use is pretty easy. Karl Fogel
has written a great book on CVS that you might find helpful:
http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/

-Matt

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Re: Developer branches

2002-02-06 Thread Mark


--- Pierre Asselin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Steve Ebersole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 we have,
 as of yet, been unable to perform a successful build precisely because
 everyone is checking in code which does not compile with work of other
 developers.
 
 They must be committing single files.  Tell them to commit wholesale
 (cvs commit from the top-level directory, no other arguments).
 They will get a complaint from cvs that their sources aren't up to
 date and that they should please run cvs update first.  Once they do
 *that*, they have all the changes made by the others and they can
 attempt a make --er, Ant-- to see if that builds.  If not, fix it and
 commit only when it works.
 
 So the sequence goes like this:
 
 cvs commit--darn, out of date
 cvs update
 Ant   --darn, won't build
 (fix conflicts)
 Ant   --success
 cvs commit

 I prefer this process:

1- cvs update (whole workarea, even files they didn't change)
2- (if any conflicts from the last update, resolve and return to step 1)
3- ant/make build.me
4- (if any compile issues, resolve and return to step 1)
5- (if changed files in this process, do the oldfashion outdated step of unit
testing prior to commt, then return to step 1)
6- cvs commit (whole workarea)

sure it may take a bit longer that just commiting your particular changed file,
but each of those steps will need to be done at some point, and the complexity
of each delayed step snowballs as individual developers determine they only
need to do the commit step on the files they changed. Its better if everyone
follows the process. (its better even still if a design phase actually happens
and everyone one is working off the same blue print, but that is likely
out-of-scope of this discussion)

They above process is alot easier than creating branches. branches are for
parallel development (ie. conflicting software requirements/functionality) not
for resolving/preventing compile issues or isolating developers work so their
changes won't impact others changes, as doing so merely delays and componds
what you created the branches to avoid. (What happens after 2 months of
everyone changing their owned branched copy of file.java)

Mark

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RE: Developer branches

2002-02-06 Thread Van Ung

Please please remove me from the distribution list.

Does any one know how to get off the distribution list.  Thanks.

Van

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Mark
Sent: 06 February 2002 14:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Developer branches



--- Pierre Asselin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Steve Ebersole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 we have,
 as of yet, been unable to perform a successful build precisely because
 everyone is checking in code which does not compile with work of other
 developers.

 They must be committing single files.  Tell them to commit wholesale
 (cvs commit from the top-level directory, no other arguments).
 They will get a complaint from cvs that their sources aren't up to
 date and that they should please run cvs update first.  Once they do
 *that*, they have all the changes made by the others and they can
 attempt a make --er, Ant-- to see if that builds.  If not, fix it and
 commit only when it works.

 So the sequence goes like this:

 cvs commit--darn, out of date
 cvs update
 Ant   --darn, won't build
 (fix conflicts)
 Ant   --success
 cvs commit

 I prefer this process:

1- cvs update (whole workarea, even files they didn't change)
2- (if any conflicts from the last update, resolve and return to step 1)
3- ant/make build.me
4- (if any compile issues, resolve and return to step 1)
5- (if changed files in this process, do the oldfashion outdated step of
unit
testing prior to commt, then return to step 1)
6- cvs commit (whole workarea)

sure it may take a bit longer that just commiting your particular changed
file,
but each of those steps will need to be done at some point, and the
complexity
of each delayed step snowballs as individual developers determine they only
need to do the commit step on the files they changed. Its better if everyone
follows the process. (its better even still if a design phase actually
happens
and everyone one is working off the same blue print, but that is likely
out-of-scope of this discussion)

They above process is alot easier than creating branches. branches are for
parallel development (ie. conflicting software requirements/functionality)
not
for resolving/preventing compile issues or isolating developers work so
their
changes won't impact others changes, as doing so merely delays and componds
what you created the branches to avoid. (What happens after 2 months of
everyone changing their owned branched copy of file.java)

Mark

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Network subsystem unavailable

2002-02-06 Thread E B

While running the command (on windows 2000)
cvs -d:pserver:user@host:/home/cvsroot co -c
from with a java program(jdk1.3.1), I am getting the
following error:
cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot create socket: Unknown 
socket error: 10106

on some machines it says
Network subsystem unavailable.

Any idea when would cvs give these errors?

thanks

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New to CVS Need help setting up repo

2002-02-06 Thread stacy . j . lyons

I have set up a test area and have been playing around with creating
repositories.  I successfully set up a single subdir containing source code
but I am
trying to set up a repository containing multiple subdirectories with
source code in them.  My dir structure is as follows and I initiated the
following commands.

/cpas/stacy/cvs/incmar01/pub   (Both pub and src contain source code)
src

$pwd
/cpas/stacy/cvs/incmar01

$cvs -d /cpas/stacy/cvs/incmar01/ init
(This gives me CVSROOT)
$cvs import -m init inc stacy start
(Here is where I get problems.  The following scrolls on the screen until I
stop it)

N inc/inc/inc/inc/inc/inc/src/inctabu1.sas,v,v,v,v,v


When I successfully did this before I cd'ed to the pub dir and did the
import.  This worked but I don't want to have multiple repositories for
each individual subdir.  How do I place multiple subdirs with source code
into the repository???


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how to change a rev number

2002-02-06 Thread Shane McDaniel


I accidently checked in a file with the wrong rev number.  How do I go
about changing the rev number in the DB?  Is there an easier way than
checking the rev out, removing it from the DB and putting it back with the
new rev?

-shane

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Re: Developer branches

2002-02-06 Thread Matt Riechers

Van Ung wrote:
 
 Please please remove me from the distribution list.
 
 Does any one know how to get off the distribution list.  Thanks.

...

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Re: Developer branches

2002-02-06 Thread Steve Greenland

On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 06:20:16AM -0800, Mark wrote:
 [Lot's of good stuff, up until:]
 Branches are for parallel development (ie. conflicting software
 requirements/functionality) not for resolving/preventing compile
 issues or isolating developers work so their changes won't impact
 others changes, as doing so merely delays and componds what you
 created the branches to avoid.

I'll disagree with this, somewhat: in particular the or isolating
developers so that there changes won't impact other's changes.
Parallel development is useful not only for conflicting functionality,
but also changes that have broad but limited impact. That sounds like
an oxymoron, but what I mean is a change that involves editing a lot
of files, but in a way that doesn't necessarily conflict (on a textual
basis[1]) with other concurrent development. It may result in the build
being broken (either compiler time or run/test time) for a long while,
and if you don't branch, you have two possibilities:

1. The developer doing the big change does commits.
2. The developer doesn't do commits. 

For case 1, everybody else is screwed. No good. For case 2, the
developer is screwed, because she can't use CVS for her own work, and
thus is left with foo.c.20020131, foo.c.good, foo.c.orig sitting around
in her sandbox. Testing on other platforms is painful, because you have
to copy stuff by hand (always forgetting parts of it, and wasting time
re-inventing fixes), rather just going to the other box and doing a 'cvs
update -r branch_tag'. I'm sure that others here can come up with more
annoyances.

Neither choice is satisfactory. Branching requires more
work/responsibility on the part of the developers on the branch, and on
the release manager (or whatever you call the person responsible for
managing your repository). Therefore, one needs to decide whether the
extra work is justified by the benefits of branching in each instance.

The key point, I think, is that you can't, in general, avoid the effort
of merging and resolving conflicts. What branches can give you is the
ability to control when that effort has to be made. While mostly (I
think) the best answer to when? is now, sometimes it's better to
delay it.

Steve

[1] If it conflicts semantically, then it wasn't designed correctly, but
that kind of issue is independent of branching choices.



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Re: how to change a rev number

2002-02-06 Thread Eric Siegerman

On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 10:56:14AM -0500, Shane McDaniel wrote:
 How do I go
 about changing the rev number in the DB?  Is there an easier way than
 checking the rev out, removing it from the DB and putting it back with the
 new rev?

Nope; that's the only way.

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Re: cvs advice

2002-02-06 Thread Eric Siegerman

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:06:36PM +0100, Alvarez Lorencio, Maria Jesus wrote:
 Every day I read the e-mails, the cederqvist and everything that I could
 find. I´ve got no program install yet buy the day it´s going to arrive and I
 don´t known what I´m going to do...

Experiment!  Once you have CVS installed, make a temporary
repository, and play.  Plus more of the reading you're already
doing, of course.

That it be a temporary repo, and not the production one, is
crucial.  You'll certainly make mistakes, so you need to give
yourself room to make them, and learn from them, without
consequence.

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slow splash screen

2002-02-06 Thread Craig Williams

Does anyone know of a bug/problem/my screwup that hangs the initial winCVS
splash screen for about 10 minutes before succesfully logging in? Others in
my workgroup with the same configurations as mine don't have this problem.

I'm running WinCvs 1.2 on a WIN98 machine
CVS is installed on Solaris.

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RE: how to change a rev number

2002-02-06 Thread Shane McDaniel



On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Thornley, David wrote:



  -Original Message-
  From: Shane McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:56 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: how to change a rev number
 
 
 
  I accidently checked in a file with the wrong rev number.  How do I go
  about changing the rev number in the DB?  Is there an easier way than
  checking the rev out, removing it from the DB and putting it
  back with the
  new rev?
 
 The right answer is to stop thinking about the rev number and just
 apply a tag when you want something you can refer to.  Leave the
 revision numbers to CVS.


point taken.  but then what is the use of having a hierchal rev number if
tags are what one should use?  wouldn't cvs just use an incrementing
number ie 1,2,3,4 instead of 1.0.1,1.0.2,etc..

-shane

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RE: slow splash screen

2002-02-06 Thread Bill Biessman

my guess is that you have flat mode selected under the view menu.  In this
mode WinCVS finds every file in your tree, sorts them and displays them in
one screen.  I have about 5000 files in my tree and it just took about five
minutes to bring up WinCVS in this mode.  With flat mode off the
hierarchical display is drawn in a couple of seconds.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Craig Williams
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:23 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: slow splash screen


Does anyone know of a bug/problem/my screwup that hangs the initial winCVS
splash screen for about 10 minutes before succesfully logging in? Others in
my workgroup with the same configurations as mine don't have this problem.

I'm running WinCvs 1.2 on a WIN98 machine
CVS is installed on Solaris.

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RE: how to change a rev number

2002-02-06 Thread Thornley, David



 -Original Message-
 From: Shane McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

   I accidently checked in a file with the wrong rev number. 
  How do I go
   about changing the rev number in the DB?  Is there an 
 easier way than
   checking the rev out, removing it from the DB and putting it
   back with the
   new rev?
  
  The right answer is to stop thinking about the rev number and just
  apply a tag when you want something you can refer to.  Leave the
  revision numbers to CVS.
 
 
 point taken.  but then what is the use of having a hierchal 
 rev number if
 tags are what one should use?  wouldn't cvs just use an incrementing
 number ie 1,2,3,4 instead of 1.0.1,1.0.2,etc..
 
The reason is historical.  Originally, CVS was a set of wrapper scripts
over RCS, and CVS continues to use the RCS format of save files.  (There's
advantages there.)  One intended successor to CVS, Subversion 
(http://subversion.tigris.org/index.html), does use sequential numbers
for its revisions.

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Re: Finding out when the last checkin occured into the repo or a directory in the repo.

2002-02-06 Thread Matt Riechers

Sanjay Bhatia wrote:
 
 I'd like to know if there is a command to do any of the following steps :
 
 1) Find out when (what time) the last checkin occured in the repo.
 2) Find out when (what time) the last checkin occured into a specific directory
 of the repo.
 3) Find out when (what time) a file with a particular extension (e.g. .c,
 .java) occured in the repo.

Use the history command: 'cvs history --help'

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RE: how to change a rev number

2002-02-06 Thread

try 

cvs admin -o



( To obsolete a revision ) - might be helpful.


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RE: Installation on Linux and accessing WINCVS from W2K

2002-02-06 Thread

check against my config on RH7.1 + xinetd

-

bash-2.04# cat /etc/xinetd.d/cvspserver 

# default: on

# description: 

#   CVS DEVELOPMENT PSERVER

service cvspserverdev

{

bind= 192.168.20.45

port= 2401

socket_type = stream

wait= no

user= root

server  = /apps/cvs/bin/cvs

server_args = --allow-root=/cvsroot/devel pserver

disable = no

}

# default: on

# description: 

#   CVS BIULD/RELEASE PSERVER

service cvspserverbld

{

bind= 192.168.20.47

port= 2401

socket_type = stream

wait= no

user= root

server  = /apps/cvs/bin/cvs

server_args = --allow-root=/cvsroot/build pserver

disable = no

}

---

bash-2.04# cat /etc/services | grep cvs 

cvspserverdev   2401/tcp# CVS client/server operations

cvspserverdev   2401/udp# CVS client/server operations

cvspserverbld   7401/tcp# CVS client/server operations

cvspserverbld   7401/udp# CVS client/server operations

cvsup   5999/tcpCVSup   # CVSup file transfer/John Polstra/FreeBSD

cvsup   5999/udpCVSup   # CVSup file transfer/John Polstra/FreeBSD

bash-2.04# cat /etc/passwd | grep cvs  

cvs:x:502:502::/apps/cvs:/bin/bash

cvsdev:x:503:503::/home/cvsdev:/bin/bash

cvsbld:x:504:504::/home/cvsbld:/bin/bash

bash-2.04# cat /etc/group|grep cvs   

cvs:x:502:

cvsdev:x:503:

cvsbld:x:504:

---

bash-2.04# ls /cvsroot/

build  devel


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Re: Installation on Linux and accessing WINCVS from W2K

2002-02-06 Thread Matt Riechers

mw_in_bru wrote:
 
 I have installed CVS on Linux RED HAT7.1 using Xinetd (on port 2401).
 For the client I am using Wincvs1.2 on W2K.
 
 When I try to start a process on the Linux box I receive error CVS
 exited with error code 0

WinCVS prints this after every CVS call. An exit code of 0 means there were no
errors. What CVS command were you running? Did anything else print to the
screen?

 Reading the Xinetd log produced: there is a message
 (paraphrasing): starting unix process and then this immediately
 dies.

Please never paraphrase error messages. You need to post the full message
(obscuring only sensitive info, if necessary) if you expect a useful response.
You might also try the troubleshooting section in the manual:
http://www.cvshome.org/docs/manual/cvs_21.html#SEC182

-Matt

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Re: flexible password file location

2002-02-06 Thread Larry Jones

=?iso-8859-1?q?E=20B?= writes:
 
 My current client is 1.10.5 and doesnt support this.
 Any idea if wincvs 1.2/1.3 has this 1.11.1 client?

I have no idea.

 btw, why is it not recommended? The reason I am asking
 this is, the command cvs login expects password
 strictly from stdin (like the passwd command).

Because it puts the password in plain sight.  For example, on most
Unix-like systems, anyone can do a ``ps'' and see your entire command
line, including your password.

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Re: flexible password file location

2002-02-06 Thread Larry Jones

=?iso-8859-1?q?E=20B?= writes:
 
 I had a look at the Ant source. They do not use
 'cvs login' to add an entry to the .cvspass. Instead
 they are adding it themselves. How reliable is this?

Not very.  The format of the file is undocumented and has already
changed at least once.

-Larry Jones

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Problem with recursive cvs edit command

2002-02-06 Thread Dan

OK,

I'm new to cvs, and think I've got everything working except for one
peculiarity.

I've got a modules file that looks like:

moduleA -d moduleA path1/moduleA
moduleB -d moduleB  path1/moduleB
AllModules moduleA moduleB

I then checkout AllModules and end up with a directory tree locally like:

AllModules
moduleA
moduleB

which is what I would expect.  I can commit, get status, get logging, etc.
at any point in the tree and everything works just fine.

If however I do a 'cvs edit' on moduleA, and moduleA has sub-directories
(let's say suba for example - which has a file in it called filea), then I
get the following error:

cvs -z9 edit (in directory C:\AllModules\moduleA)

cvs [edit aborted]: cannot find suba/filea: No such file or directory

*CVS exited normally with code 1*

If I do a 'cvs edit' on 'suba' directly however it works fine, and all the
files in suba are marked edit:

cvs -z9 edit (in directory C:\AllModules\moduleA\suba\)

*CVS exited normally with code 0*

Any help for this novice cvs user would be greatly appreciated.

Dan



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Re: How to get log messages *after* one tag up to another tag

2002-02-06 Thread Larry Jones

Jim Doyle writes:
 
 Is there a chance the cvs log features recently added can be further
 extended to work across branches?  To a user, I think 1.3, 1.3.2.1,
 1.3.2.2, ... looks like a legal sequence that cvs log should be able to
 follow.  Would it make sense to allow ranges A::B, where A precedes B on
 the same branch, *or* A::B' is itself a legal range, where B' is the
 origin of the branch B is on?  Then the code could walk backwards from
 B, jumping to the branch origin of B while A has fewer numdots than
 B.  Does this make sense when coming at it from the point of view of
 implementing CVS?

Yes, I noticed that as a potential problem when I was adding the ::
support, but I didn't worry about it too much since I don't recall
anyone ever reporting it.  Unfortunately, the code is full of
assumptions that the starting and ending revision numbers have the same
number of dots, so there's a lot of rewriting to do.  It's also not
quite as simple as it might seem, since I believe that 1.2:4.5.6.7.8.9
should also be a valid range, no?  (All revisions with a single dot are
on the trunk, reguardless of the major revision number; on other
branches, the major componenents of the revision number must be exactly
equal.)

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Re: Partial checkout of an ampersand module

2002-02-06 Thread Larry Jones

Pierre Asselin writes:
 
 If you really want a single file from part_one, figure out what
 part_one is.  There should be a line in the modules file that says
 something like
 
 part_one  path/to/part_one
 
 You can then do
 cvs checkout path/to/part_one/subdir/myfile
 
 and you will get myfile, 4 directories deep.

You should also be able to do:

cvs co part_one/subdir/myfile

in that case.  I haven't done any research on the original problem, but
I'm almost certain that it only applies to ampersand modules, not
regular (and probably not alias) modules.

-Larry Jones

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Re: New to CVS Need help setting up repo

2002-02-06 Thread Larry Jones

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 $pwd
 /cpas/stacy/cvs/incmar01
 
 $cvs -d /cpas/stacy/cvs/incmar01/ init
 (This gives me CVSROOT)
 $cvs import -m init inc stacy start
 (Here is where I get problems.  The following scrolls on the screen until I
 stop it)
 
 N inc/inc/inc/inc/inc/inc/src/inctabu1.sas,v,v,v,v,v

Your CVSROOT should be a *brand new* directory, not an existing
directory that contains source code you want to put under CVS control. 
Think of the repository as a library.  If you have books that you want
to put in a library, you don't build a library around where the books
already are, you build it somewhere else and then take the books to it. 
CVS works the same way: init builds the library and import takes
(copies) your files into it.

Reasonably recent versions of CVS won't let you import inside the
library and get the infinite recursion you reported.  You really should
upgrade.

-Larry Jones

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Re: how to change a rev number

2002-02-06 Thread Larry Jones

Shane McDaniel writes:
 
 point taken.  but then what is the use of having a hierchal rev number if
 tags are what one should use?  wouldn't cvs just use an incrementing
 number ie 1,2,3,4 instead of 1.0.1,1.0.2,etc..

Branching.

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Repository directories and symlinks

2002-02-06 Thread Alleman, Lowell


I want to reorganize the directory structure of my cvs repository, but there
are still a number of sandboxes lying around and a couple of scripts which
rely on certain files being at certain locations within the repository (It's
not ideal, but it's what I have to work with.).  I would like to move the
directories to where I want them, and then make symlinks connecting the old
and new locations.

Yes, I've tried doing this with the modules file, but it just isn't flexible
enough.  I either can't use the name I want or position the module under
another module, or I end up with superfluous modules names.  If I'm
missing something here, let me know.


Symlinking directories within the repository:

1.  Will it work?
2.  Will I loose data?
3.  What other problems can I expect?
4.  Is there a better way?


Please, no flames.



Thanks in advance,


Lowell Alleman
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RE: How to get log messages *after* one tag up to another tag

2002-02-06 Thread Doyle, Jim

  Is there a chance the cvs log features recently added can be further
  extended to work across branches?  To a user, I think 1.3, 1.3.2.1,
  1.3.2.2, ... looks like a legal sequence that cvs log should be able to
  follow.  Would it make sense to allow ranges A::B, where A precedes B on
  the same branch, *or* A::B' is itself a legal range, where B' is the
  origin of the branch B is on?  
 [snip]
 It's also not
 quite as simple as it might seem, since I believe that 1.2:4.5.6.7.8.9
 should also be a valid range, no?  (All revisions with a 
 single dot are
 on the trunk, reguardless of the major revision number; on other
 branches, the major componenents of the revision number must 
 be exactly
 equal.)

Larry,

Thanks for the reply.

I see your point about the trunk major revisions - I thought there might be
additional complications I wasn't seeing.  And yes, the kind of
general functionality I would hope for would support 1.2:4.5.6.7.8.9 as a
valid range.  

Would this really complicate the code, though?  I haven't looked at the
source much, but I have seen that there seem to be functions for getting the
origin of a branch (RCS_getbranch? or RCS_whatbranch?).  As long as you
can jump from a branch revision to the branch origin, and get from a
revision to the
one that precedes it within a branch, it looks like listing the revisions
wouldn't be too bad.  

To take the example above, 1.2:4.5.6.7.8.9, I'd imagine the code:
* starting with 4.5.6.7.8.9
* decrementing the minor revision number until it gets to the first branch
revision 4.5.6.7.8.1
* jumping to the origin 4.5.6.7 of the branch 4.5.6.7.0.8
* decrementing the minor revision again until 4.5.6.1
* jumping to the origin 4.5
* tracing revisions backwards along the trunk, decrementing the minor and
major revisions, until it gets to 1.2
* 

Do the necessary primitives (getbranch, etc.) exist to support an algorithm
like this?
Would an algorithm like this really cover all the bases?
Would it be possible to confine these code changes to the log command, or
would it affect other parts of the source?

Jim
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Re: Maybe a bug ... or ... am I missing something

2002-02-06 Thread Larry Jones

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes [in very long lines]:
 
 The message that CVS gives me leads me to believe that the old file
 was removed and the new one put in it's place, but that is not the
 case!?!?

No, CVS is telling *YOU* to move the old file out of the way so that it
can write the new file.  (You wouldn't want CVS to delete your files
without asking, would you?  After all, just because the file has the
same name that doesn't mean that it's an older version of the same file
-- it might be a newer version or even a completely different file!  You
should always have export create a brand new directory, not try to
update an existing directory.

-Larry Jones

I always send Grandma a thank-you note right away.  ...Ever since she
sent me that empty box with the sarcastic note saying she was just
checking to see if the Postal Service was still working. -- Calvin

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RE: Partial checkout of an ampersand module

2002-02-06 Thread Walsh, Matthew

If you want the same file all the time, you could also try this:

modules:
part_one_file  -d part_one path/to/part_one file

cvs co part_one_file

and you should get
U part_one/file


Haven't tried it with the -d, but I have done the selected file checkout
by specifying:

modulereposdirectory file ...

in the modules file.

It doesn't work with ampersand modules though. For example:

moduleA path/to/whateverA fileA
moduleB path/to/whateverB fileB
ampermodmoduleA moduleB

If you checkout moduleA you'll get fileA only. If you checkout moduleB
you'll
get fileB only, but if you check out ampermod, you'll get all of the
contents of whateverA and whateverB. Just ignores the file specifics for
some reason.

Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 3:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Partial checkout of an ampersand module
 
 
 Pierre Asselin writes:
  
  If you really want a single file from part_one, figure out what
  part_one is.  There should be a line in the modules file that says
  something like
  
  part_onepath/to/part_one
  
  You can then do
  cvs checkout path/to/part_one/subdir/myfile
  
  and you will get myfile, 4 directories deep.
 
 You should also be able to do:
 
   cvs co part_one/subdir/myfile
 
 in that case.  I haven't done any research on the original 
 problem, but
 I'm almost certain that it only applies to ampersand modules, not
 regular (and probably not alias) modules.
 
 -Larry Jones
 
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Re: How to get log messages *after* one tag up to another tag

2002-02-06 Thread Larry Jones

Doyle, Jim writes:
 
 Would this really complicate the code, though?  I haven't looked at the
 source much, but I have seen that there seem to be functions for getting the
 origin of a branch (RCS_getbranch? or RCS_whatbranch?).  As long as you
 can jump from a branch revision to the branch origin, and get from a
 revision to the
 one that precedes it within a branch, it looks like listing the revisions
 wouldn't be too bad.  

I don't know as it complicates the code, but it certainly changes it. 
The existing code doesn't really care about branch origins,  it just
goes through the list of revisions and for each one asks, Is this
revision greater than the start of the range and less than the end of
the range? and, if so, includes it in the output.  The catch is that
the primitive that compares two revision numbers requires that both
ranges have the same number of dots and thus can only return less
than, equal, or greater than.  In the more general case, it needs
to be able to return unordered as well, and all the callers need to be
able to deal with that new return value.

-Larry Jones

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Re: Repository directories and symlinks

2002-02-06 Thread Larry Jones

Alleman, Lowell writes:
 
 Symlinking directories within the repository:
 
 1.  Will it work?

Mostly.  There have been reports of CVS objecting to symlinks -- whether
you'll hit any of them or care that they don't work I can't say.

 2.  Will I loose data?

You shouldn't.  (Note, however, that symlinking *files* is most
definitely *NOT* safe, only directories.)

-Larry Jones

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Re: Repository directories and symlinks

2002-02-06 Thread Kaz Kylheku

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alleman, Lowell wrote:

I want to reorganize the directory structure of my cvs repository, but there
are still a number of sandboxes lying around and a couple of scripts which
rely on certain files being at certain locations within the repository (It's
not ideal, but it's what I have to work with.).  I would like to move the
directories to where I want them, and then make symlinks connecting the old
and new locations.

Yes, I've tried doing this with the modules file, but it just isn't flexible
enough.  I either can't use the name I want or position the module under
another module, or I end up with superfluous modules names.  If I'm
missing something here, let me know.


Symlinking directories within the repository:

1.  Will it work?

Sort of.

2.  Will I loose data?

Probably not, but you could screw up your ability to go back to old
releases if you don't know what you are doing or aren't careful.

3.  What other problems can I expect?

- When files move in or out of Attic directories, symlinks break. This
happens when files are removed on the main trunk, or added on a branch
and then commited to the main trunk.

- When a file is removed (via cvs remove), then every symlink pointing
to it appears removed; it's necessary to manually break the symlink
before doing a cvs remove. Breaking the link meaning that the object
to be removed is an actual object, and not a link, and has no links
pointing at it.

- Older versions of CVS didn't handle symlinks right; they did not
chase the link and acquire locks in the right places.  this was
fixed around 1.10.3. 

Because of these problems, symlinks become a liability. Users cannot
manage these symlinks themselves, only some person in charge of the
repository. You can't have people mucking around in the repository
to get their jobs done, it's just not sound CM. If you do have some links,
and other people don't realy know about them, and you get run over by
a bus, the above problems will eventually bite people who might lack
the CVS expertise to know what to do.

4.  Is there a better way?

plug

I have a client side solution called Meta-CVS.

http://users.footprints.net/~kaz/mcvs.html 

This is alpha software, that currently runs only on GNU/Linux.  Sane,
robust versioning of the directory structure (and that means parallel
changes with merging and conflict resolution).  Plus sane file adds
and removes. No changes to CVS are required, and nothing needs to be
installed on the server side. On the downside, there is the current platform
restriction; moreover, it can't use existing modules without conversion,
for which I haven't yet written the tool. Some tools designed to work
with CVS won't work with Meta-CVS, such as probably most GUI front
ends like WinCVS which peek at the CVS subdirectories that don't exist
under Meta-CVS.  Caveats aside, I'm extremely happy with it and I'm using
it already. You might not be able to use it now, but at least you have
one possible light at the end of the tunnel. 

/plug
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Re: CVS Download Progress

2002-02-06 Thread Jason Allen

Ok. Is it at least possible to get a simple list of updated files without
doing an actual update? or get a list of files in a module without doing a
checkout?

Jason A.

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From: Larry Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jason Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: CVS Download Progress


 Jason Allen writes:
 
  Is it possible to get CVS to display the progress for the current file?
=
  Or the overall progress for an update?

 No.

 -Larry Jones

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Re: how to change a rev number

2002-02-06 Thread Mark Jackson

Shane McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Thornley, David wrote:

  The right answer is to stop thinking about the rev number and just
  apply a tag when you want something you can refer to.  Leave the
  revision numbers to CVS.

 point taken.  but then what is the use of having a hierchal rev number if
 tags are what one should use?  wouldn't cvs just use an incrementing
 number ie 1,2,3,4 instead of 1.0.1,1.0.2,etc..

Some of it is purely historical, required for compatibility with RCS
(upon which CVS was built), and hence serves no useful purpose.  The
major rev number (to the left of the first decimal) is an example of
this.

But some kind of branching scheme (as opposed to simple one-dimensional
increments) is required to support, well, branching.

-- 
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About tag and rtag ?

2002-02-06 Thread George xu



Hello all:
 what is different of below two 
command ?

cvs tag tagname mymodule
cvs rtag tagname mymodule

Please help me!

Thank you!


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2002-02-06 Thread Cal McPherson



Hi,
 I'd like to post a problem I'm 
having with the Windows command line cvs.exe installation. I have done the 
following already:
1. added cvs.exe to C:/cvs/bin and added this bin 
to PATH
2. set CVSROOT environment variable to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs

Then when I try to login to the netbeans server the 
following happens

 cvs login
Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvs
CVS password:
cvs login: failed to open Z:\ /.cvspass for 
reading: No such file or directory
cvs [login aborted]: fatal error: 
exiting

Is there more the installation process than simply 
copying the exe to a bin directory and setting up a few environment 
variables?
We are using Samba here so I logon to windows 
through Samba and my windows environment is located on the Z drive(linux home 
directory). From the output above I get the impression that cvs.exe is 
attempting to treat this as a unix file(the forward slash in Z:\ 
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Re: CVS Download Progress

2002-02-06 Thread Harald Kucharek



Jason Allen wrote:

 Ok. Is it at least possible to get a simple list of updated files without
 doing an actual update? or get a list of files in a module without doing a
 checkout?



Have a look at the -n option of cvs, e.g.

cvs -n update

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