Re: A way to see who has checked out a module?
Could it be Phil that you have posed the question because the users that want this have come from a version control system that either supports locking, like rcs|sccs, or from a version control system that does locking by having a human cm dole out files to the people who request to work on them? If the above is where they come from and are looking for something vaguely similar in CVS you might try `cvs watch on filename`[1]. If it is mostly to further communication when someone finds out the file they have been modifying is changed when they do a cvs update, try `cvs watch add -a commit` so they might be notified a little quicker. BTW from your first email ... I do not want to give them shell access to the box. I have not used ViewCVS, but I have a question, if people are modifying the files how is it they don't have 'shell access to the box'? note: I have begun taking a perspective near Greg Woods' on pserver, ... pserver is almost as good as a shell access with none of the accountability. Or are the users in question read only? [1] http://www.cvshome.org/docs/manual/cvs-1.11.10/cvs_10.html#SEC89 Steve deRosier wrote: Again... this isn't going to tell you much. It basically gives you a log of certain activity with the system. I can run the same command and I get the following results: * I have 21 modules checked out. Of those 21, I only have directories in my sandbox for 15 of those (where did those others go? probably rm -r them at some point when I didn't need to work on them anymore) Of the 15, I haven't touched 6 of them in close to a year, and in the last two months I've only even looked at 3. * Someone who left the company almost 6 months ago has 8 modules checked out. * One person only has 1 module checked out -- From March last year. * No releases are ever done by anybody. So, what info does cvs history -ao give you? Basically that someone checked out a module for some reason at some point. Does that give you the info you're looking for? Maybe. If so, I'd just setup a simple cron command: 'cvs history -ao /var/www/html/cvscheckouts.txt' But it doesn't tell me anything useful. - Steve Phil Labonte wrote: But you can see who has checked out files and when via the command line so all I was looking for is something to add to apache... I guess I will have to write my own perl script for cgi cvs -history -a -o shows all users and all checked out modules... Greg A. Woods wrote: [ On Tuesday, January 13, 2004 at 09:25:52 (-0500), Phil Labonte wrote: ] Subject: Re: A way to see who has checked out a module? I use ViewCVS as well but there is no option to see a log of checked out files is there? If there is can you let me know where? Fundamentally there's really no such concept of checked out files in CVS. There is no file locking in CVS, so checked out does not mean what I think you think it means. Any number of people can have any number of working directories checked out on any number of clients. None of it really makes any difference to how anyone would know who's really working on what. CVS is not a replacement for good project management. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: A way to see who has checked out a module?
Yes I think that is where they are comming from. One of them in particular is afraid that if he does some major changes to a file he wants to make sure nobidy else is currently working on it... My setup is CVS on RH9 and the clients work on Windows and use Tortoise. I think I will try to use watch because I think it is a specific set of files he is worried about. I think that the cron job mnentioned above might be enough if I limit the time to the last month... Thanks for all the help! Todd Denniston wrote: Could it be Phil that you have posed the question because the users that want this have come from a version control system that either supports locking, like rcs|sccs, or from a version control system that does locking by having a human cm dole out files to the people who request to work on them? If the above is where they come from and are looking for something vaguely similar in CVS you might try `cvs watch on filename`[1]. If it is mostly to further communication when someone finds out the file they have been modifying is changed when they do a cvs update, try `cvs watch add -a commit` so they might be notified a little quicker. BTW from your first email ... I do not want to give them shell access to the box. I have not used ViewCVS, but I have a question, if people are modifying the files how is it they don't have 'shell access to the box'? note: I have begun taking a perspective near Greg Woods' on pserver, ... pserver is almost as good as a shell access with none of the accountability. Or are the users in question read only? [1] http://www.cvshome.org/docs/manual/cvs-1.11.10/cvs_10.html#SEC89 Steve deRosier wrote: Again... this isn't going to tell you much. It basically gives you a log of certain activity with the system. I can run the same command and I get the following results: * I have 21 modules checked out. Of those 21, I only have directories in my sandbox for 15 of those (where did those others go? probably rm -r them at some point when I didn't need to work on them anymore) Of the 15, I haven't touched 6 of them in close to a year, and in the last two months I've only even looked at 3. * Someone who left the company almost 6 months ago has 8 modules checked out. * One person only has 1 module checked out -- From March last year. * No releases are ever done by anybody. So, what info does cvs history -ao give you? Basically that someone checked out a module for some reason at some point. Does that give you the info you're looking for? Maybe. If so, I'd just setup a simple cron command: 'cvs history -ao /var/www/html/cvscheckouts.txt' But it doesn't tell me anything useful. - Steve Phil Labonte wrote: But you can see who has checked out files and when via the command line so all I was looking for is something to add to apache... I guess I will have to write my own perl script for cgi cvs -history -a -o shows all users and all checked out modules... Greg A. Woods wrote: [ On Tuesday, January 13, 2004 at 09:25:52 (-0500), Phil Labonte wrote: ] Subject: Re: A way to see who has checked out a module? I use ViewCVS as well but there is no option to see a log of checked out files is there? If there is can you let me know where? Fundamentally there's really no such concept of checked out files in CVS. There is no file locking in CVS, so checked out does not mean what I think you think it means. Any number of people can have any number of working directories checked out on any number of clients. None of it really makes any difference to how anyone would know who's really working on what. CVS is not a replacement for good project management. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: A way to see who has checked out a module?
[ On Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 10:19:54 (-0500), Phil Labonte wrote: ] Subject: Re: A way to see who has checked out a module? Yes I think that is where they are comming from. One of them in particular is afraid that if he does some major changes to a file he wants to make sure nobidy else is currently working on it... The only way that's possible in a concurrent editing systems is by using _external_ project management techniques. I.e. that person should contact the rest of his or her colleagues and ask them politely whether or not they're working on some file which he or she is going to be making some extensive changes. Of course if he or she would simply get to work and make those changes, but remember to keep runnning cvs update at regular intervals then he or she might more directly learn of the benefits of a concurrent editing and versioning system like CVS. Knowing who has what checked out is _NOT_ going to help at all. -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098 VE3TCPRoboHack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Planix, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Secrets of the Weird [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: A way to see who has checked out a module?
I use ViewCVS as well but there is no option to see a log of checked out files is there? If there is can you let me know where? Steve deRosier wrote: viewcvs - http://viewcvs.sourceforge.net/index.html It's what we use and we love it. - Steve Phil Labonte wrote: Is there a web add-on that we can use to see who has checked out a given module? I know you can use the command line but I have some users that would like to see who has checked out a given module, and I do not want to give them shell access to the box. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
RE: A way to see who has checked out a module?
Am I correct in assuming that you are looking for a web based equivilent to the 'cvs editors' command? I don't know if there is such a tool, but I'm sure someone will be able to tell you if we can agree on the 'command line' option you originally referred to. Chris -Original Message- From: Steve deRosier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:25 To: Phil Labonte Cc: CVS List Subject: Re: A way to see who has checked out a module? Sorry, it looks like I misread your question. No I don't know of any tool to do this. Actually, I'm not sure it is even possible on the command line...who has what checked out isn't a relevant question in CVS. Using the various hooks for script running on cvs commands, you might be able to put together your own tool (if there is any hook run on a checkout even); a script that writes the user to a file on checkouts and removes the name from from the file on releases and then a web page that includes this info might be a way to do it. But, again I don't see how it would be useful. When I work on projects, I check out the module and check in any changes I make. When I'm done I usually just leave the module in my sandbox directory ignoring it untill I need to do something with it again, at which point I just issue a 'cvs up' command to get current. Right now I've got probably 15 modules checked out, but have only touched about 6 of them in the last 6 months (and am currently only actively working with 2 of them). - Steve Phil Labonte wrote: I use ViewCVS as well but there is no option to see a log of checked out files is there? If there is can you let me know where? Steve deRosier wrote: viewcvs - http://viewcvs.sourceforge.net/index.html It's what we use and we love it. - Steve Phil Labonte wrote: Is there a web add-on that we can use to see who has checked out a given module? I know you can use the command line but I have some users that would like to see who has checked out a given module, and I do not want to give them shell access to the box. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: A way to see who has checked out a module?
Again... this isn't going to tell you much. It basically gives you a log of certain activity with the system. I can run the same command and I get the following results: * I have 21 modules checked out. Of those 21, I only have directories in my sandbox for 15 of those (where did those others go? probably rm -r them at some point when I didn't need to work on them anymore) Of the 15, I haven't touched 6 of them in close to a year, and in the last two months I've only even looked at 3. * Someone who left the company almost 6 months ago has 8 modules checked out. * One person only has 1 module checked out -- From March last year. * No releases are ever done by anybody. So, what info does cvs history -ao give you? Basically that someone checked out a module for some reason at some point. Does that give you the info you're looking for? Maybe. If so, I'd just setup a simple cron command: 'cvs history -ao /var/www/html/cvscheckouts.txt' But it doesn't tell me anything useful. - Steve Phil Labonte wrote: But you can see who has checked out files and when via the command line so all I was looking for is something to add to apache... I guess I will have to write my own perl script for cgi cvs -history -a -o shows all users and all checked out modules... Greg A. Woods wrote: [ On Tuesday, January 13, 2004 at 09:25:52 (-0500), Phil Labonte wrote: ] Subject: Re: A way to see who has checked out a module? I use ViewCVS as well but there is no option to see a log of checked out files is there? If there is can you let me know where? Fundamentally there's really no such concept of checked out files in CVS. There is no file locking in CVS, so checked out does not mean what I think you think it means. Any number of people can have any number of working directories checked out on any number of clients. None of it really makes any difference to how anyone would know who's really working on what. CVS is not a replacement for good project management. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
A way to see who has checked out a module?
Is there a web add-on that we can use to see who has checked out a given module? I know you can use the command line but I have some users that would like to see who has checked out a given module, and I do not want to give them shell access to the box. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: A way to see who has checked out a module?
viewcvs - http://viewcvs.sourceforge.net/index.html It's what we use and we love it. - Steve Phil Labonte wrote: Is there a web add-on that we can use to see who has checked out a given module? I know you can use the command line but I have some users that would like to see who has checked out a given module, and I do not want to give them shell access to the box. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
