Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: (On a separate note, if I go to Downloads - Getting Started and click on the AnonymousCVS wiki link then I get redirected back to the front page rather than to a page giving information on how to access CVS) Fixed. Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
Dave McMurtrie wrote: We're very interested in growing the Cyrus project and attracting new volunteers to contribute to the project, and that desire is at the core of why this migration is taking place. The biggest change is that we're trying to separate the environment from Carnegie Mellon University infrastructure as much as possible. Previously, contributions of any kind would end up requiring us to create a CMU computer account for a willing volunteer. We can now simply create local shell accounts as required. Almost the entire website has been created using MediaWiki software, so anyone who is willing to register for an account may update the website content. Wow - this looks really good :) The main criticism I have from a developer point of view is, well, CVS. Enough said. Please please can we have an official git mirror? It makes maintaining out-of-tree patches so much easier in the long run, and therefore much more likely that we can pass the patches back upstream. (On a separate note, if I go to Downloads - Getting Started and click on the AnonymousCVS wiki link then I get redirected back to the front page rather than to a page giving information on how to access CVS) ATB, Mark. -- Mark Cave-Ayland - Senior Technical Architect PostgreSQL - PostGIS Sirius Corporation plc - control through freedom http://www.siriusit.co.uk t: +44 870 608 0063 Sirius Labs: http://www.siriusit.co.uk/labs Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 09:09:53AM +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: Dave McMurtrie wrote: We're very interested in growing the Cyrus project and attracting new volunteers to contribute to the project, and that desire is at the core of why this migration is taking place. The biggest change is that we're trying to separate the environment from Carnegie Mellon University infrastructure as much as possible. Previously, contributions of any kind would end up requiring us to create a CMU computer account for a willing volunteer. We can now simply create local shell accounts as required. Almost the entire website has been created using MediaWiki software, so anyone who is willing to register for an account may update the website content. Wow - this looks really good :) The main criticism I have from a developer point of view is, well, CVS. Enough said. Please please can we have an official git mirror? It makes maintaining out-of-tree patches so much easier in the long run, and therefore much more likely that we can pass the patches back upstream. We're working on it! I'm hoping to chat with Jeroen from Kolab about it again tonight. We've got a partial merge into git - but we just want to make sure all the tags and authors and stuff are imported properly before cutting over. And to give people enough warning to change :) (On a separate note, if I go to Downloads - Getting Started and click on the AnonymousCVS wiki link then I get redirected back to the front page rather than to a page giving information on how to access CVS) Punt to Dave :) P.S. I'm getting going with Documentation now! I've rewritten the mailbox-format.html internal doc and added a namelocks.html internal doc. Next step is documenting the APIs at the new layer up (mailbox API) and the one above that (index API). And the replication protocol, and the sequence sets, buffers, etc. And the new reconstruct function, and the at-startup cvt_cyrusdb. I'm still looking for an expert BDB person to help me debug how Cyrus uses BDB :) Bron. Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
Bron Gondwana wrote: The main criticism I have from a developer point of view is, well, CVS. Enough said. Please please can we have an official git mirror? It makes maintaining out-of-tree patches so much easier in the long run, and therefore much more likely that we can pass the patches back upstream. We're working on it! I'm hoping to chat with Jeroen from Kolab about it again tonight. We've got a partial merge into git - but we just want to make sure all the tags and authors and stuff are imported properly before cutting over. And to give people enough warning to change :) Excellent news! FWIW the PostgreSQL team have been trying to switch to git for the past month, and in the process have involved the cvs2git maintainers and had some fixes committed over the past few weeks to improve the migration process (note that they have also suffered from having to hand-tweak the repository to fix various bugs in CVS). The thread about the entire process is very long, but for those interested the latest summary is here: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2010-09/msg00636.php. HTH, Mark. -- Mark Cave-Ayland - Senior Technical Architect PostgreSQL - PostGIS Sirius Corporation plc - control through freedom http://www.siriusit.co.uk t: +44 870 608 0063 Sirius Labs: http://www.siriusit.co.uk/labs Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: CVS to GIT (was: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla)
Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: Bron Gondwana wrote: The main criticism I have from a developer point of view is, well, CVS. Enough said. Please please can we have an official git mirror? It makes maintaining out-of-tree patches so much easier in the long run, and therefore much more likely that we can pass the patches back upstream. We're working on it! I'm hoping to chat with Jeroen from Kolab about it again tonight. We've got a partial merge into git - but we just want to make sure all the tags and authors and stuff are imported properly before cutting over. And to give people enough warning to change :) Excellent news! FWIW the PostgreSQL team have been trying to switch to git for the past month, and in the process have involved the cvs2git maintainers and had some fixes committed over the past few weeks to improve the migration process (note that they have also suffered from having to hand-tweak the repository to fix various bugs in CVS). The thread about the entire process is very long, but for those interested the latest summary is here: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2010-09/msg00636.php. We have a working sample, with a documented procedure, to move three CVS modules (cmulocal, cyrus and sieve) into one GIT repository: http://www.cyrusimap.org/mediawiki/index.php/Drafts/CVS_to_GIT_Conversion#Stab_.232 There some about branch and tag conversions as well. You can find the result (which is preliminary!!) at http://git.kolabsys.com/cyrus-imapd.git. I'll be working with Dave to get this setup over on cyrusimap.org as soon as possible as well, but meanwhile, feedback is more then welcome! Kind regards, -- Jeroen van Meeuwen Senior Engineer, Kolab Systems AG e: vanmeeu...@kolabsys.com t: +316 42 801 403 w: http://www.kolabsys.com pgp: 9342 BF08 Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
On 09/13/2010 04:09 AM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: (On a separate note, if I go to Downloads - Getting Started and click on the AnonymousCVS wiki link then I get redirected back to the front page rather than to a page giving information on how to access CVS) Thanks for pointing this out, Mark. I made that link more useful. Dave -- Dave McMurtrie, SPE Email Systems Team Leader Carnegie Mellon University, Computing Services Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
Dave McMurtrie wrote: (On a separate note, if I go to Downloads - Getting Started and click on the AnonymousCVS wiki link then I get redirected back to the front page rather than to a page giving information on how to access CVS) Thanks for pointing this out, Mark. I made that link more useful. Dave Thanks Dave, that looks fixed now. ATB, Mark. -- Mark Cave-Ayland - Senior Technical Architect PostgreSQL - PostGIS Sirius Corporation plc - control through freedom http://www.siriusit.co.uk t: +44 870 608 0063 Sirius Labs: http://www.siriusit.co.uk/labs Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
On Mon, 2010-09-06 at 21:06 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Saturday 04 September 2010 03:50:32 Dave McMurtrie wrote: On 9/3/10 8:24 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) wrote: Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html ^^ You may want to update the list signature as well ;-) Good idea. I *think* I just did, but if the text below this is broken, I'll know I'm wrong. Dave Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/ I think it works now. :) And congratulations with the new domain. It makes it easier to find when looking for it. I'm updating the Freshmeat entry to point to the shiney new stuff. 1.) I noticed the previous Wiki link now redirects to the home page [I assume that is intentional] 2.) I assume the CVS is still the 'official' SCM for people looking to check out code? Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
Adam Tauno Williams wrote: I'm updating the Freshmeat entry to point to the shiney new stuff. 1.) I noticed the previous Wiki link now redirects to the home page [I assume that is intentional] 2.) I assume the CVS is still the 'official' SCM for people looking to check out code? Yup, it still is! Kind regards, -- Jeroen van Meeuwen Senior Engineer, Kolab Systems AG e: vanmeeu...@kolabsys.com t: +316 42 801 403 w: http://www.kolabsys.com pgp: 9342 BF08 Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
On Saturday 04 September 2010 03:50:32 Dave McMurtrie wrote: On 9/3/10 8:24 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) wrote: Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html ^^ You may want to update the list signature as well ;-) Good idea. I *think* I just did, but if the text below this is broken, I'll know I'm wrong. Thanks, Dave Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/ I think it works now. :) And congratulations with the new domain. It makes it easier to find when looking for it. -- Joost Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
Good morning, I'm pleased to announce that we are migrating over to a new website and bugzilla server today. The new site is now available at http://www.cyrusimap.org/, notwithstanding any DNS cache issues (I forgot to lower the ttl, so you may end up still hitting the old server until later today). We're very interested in growing the Cyrus project and attracting new volunteers to contribute to the project, and that desire is at the core of why this migration is taking place. The biggest change is that we're trying to separate the environment from Carnegie Mellon University infrastructure as much as possible. Previously, contributions of any kind would end up requiring us to create a CMU computer account for a willing volunteer. We can now simply create local shell accounts as required. Almost the entire website has been created using MediaWiki software, so anyone who is willing to register for an account may update the website content. There is still a lot of work to do before this migration is complete, so you may find some stale links, places where I don't yet have redirects set up from the old servers, etc. If you encounter these, please feel free to fix them if you already have access, request access to fix them if you don't, or simply report them. In particular, the old bugzilla server is currently not running so nobody may accidentally update things there. If you need bugzilla access today, you can be sure you're talking to the new server by either following a link from http://www.cyrusimap.org/ or by directly visiting http://bugzilla.cyrusimap.org/ Lastly, I'd like to graciously thank Yoni Afek, the web designer who did the bulk of the work necessary to make all this happen with little or no direction along the way. Please don't hesitate to contact him at http://yoniafek.com/ if you require his services. Thank you, Dave Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
On 03/09/10 11:26 -0400, Dave McMurtrie wrote: Good morning, I'm pleased to announce that we are migrating over to a new website and bugzilla server today. The new site is now available at http://www.cyrusimap.org/, notwithstanding any DNS cache issues (I forgot to lower the ttl, so you may end up still hitting the old server until later today). I don't think SASL 2.1.24 has been released yet. The link to 2.1.24 (on the new front page) points to the 2.1.24rc1 release from last year. -- Dan White Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
Am 03.09.2010 17:26, schrieb Dave McMurtrie: Good morning, I'm pleased to announce that we are migrating over to a new website and bugzilla server today. The new site is now available at http://www.cyrusimap.org/, notwithstanding any DNS cache issues (I forgot to lower the ttl, so you may end up still hitting the old server until later today). Hello Dave, looks like the codepage of the (german) bugzilla website is wrong. All öäüéàè etc. are wrong, looks like a UTF-8 header is missing. So Firefox interprets the pages as ISO-8859-1. André Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) wrote: Dave McMurtrie wrote: Good morning, I'm pleased to announce that we are migrating over to a new website and bugzilla server today. Hi Dave, I'm missing CLOSED - DEFERRED bug statuses, for bugs that just have insufficient follow-up. I'm not sure it was there on the old infrastructure, but I would certainly like to have it. Further down the road; - I cannot go to CLOSED immediately, but have to go through RESOLVED, which is wrong of sorts in some cases. - I notice there is no RESOLVED/CLOSED - NEXTRELEASE for RFE tickets. - Between NEW and ASSIGNED can be CONFIRMED - for people like me who can take a NEW bug and confirm it, but cannot actually be ASSIGNED the task of committing the fix. I see there's UNCONFIRMED, which would be reasonable as well, but the initial state for a new bug though is... NEW ;-) Kind regards, -- Jeroen van Meeuwen Senior Engineer, Kolab Systems AG e: vanmeeu...@kolabsys.com t: +316 42 801 403 w: http://www.kolabsys.com pgp: 9342 BF08 Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
On 9/3/10 4:25 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) wrote: Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) wrote: Dave McMurtrie wrote: Good morning, I'm pleased to announce that we are migrating over to a new website and bugzilla server today. Hi Dave, I'm missing CLOSED - DEFERRED bug statuses, for bugs that just have insufficient follow-up. I'm not sure it was there on the old infrastructure, but I would certainly like to have it. Further down the road; - I cannot go to CLOSED immediately, but have to go through RESOLVED, which is wrong of sorts in some cases. - I notice there is no RESOLVED/CLOSED - NEXTRELEASE for RFE tickets. - Between NEW and ASSIGNED can be CONFIRMED - for people like me who can take a NEW bug and confirm it, but cannot actually be ASSIGNED the task of committing the fix. I see there's UNCONFIRMED, which would be reasonable as well, but the initial state for a new bug though is... NEW ;-) Hi Jeroen, I gave you admin and tweakparams rights in bugzilla. There's a fancy interface for Bug Status Workflow under the Administration menu that should allow you to set this up however you think is best. Apologies that I did not copy this configuration over from the old server, but I completely missed it. If you have issues, or simply don't have the time to work on it, I can try again to copy the params from the old server. Thank you, Dave Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
Dave McMurtrie wrote: On 9/3/10 4:25 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) wrote: Further down the road; - I cannot go to CLOSED immediately, but have to go through RESOLVED, which is wrong of sorts in some cases. - I notice there is no RESOLVED/CLOSED - NEXTRELEASE for RFE tickets. - Between NEW and ASSIGNED can be CONFIRMED - for people like me who can take a NEW bug and confirm it, but cannot actually be ASSIGNED the task of committing the fix. I see there's UNCONFIRMED, which would be reasonable as well, but the initial state for a new bug though is... NEW ;-) Hi Jeroen, I gave you admin and tweakparams rights in bugzilla. There's a fancy interface for Bug Status Workflow under the Administration menu that should allow you to set this up however you think is best. Apologies that I did not copy this configuration over from the old server, but I completely missed it. If you have issues, or simply don't have the time to work on it, I can try again to copy the params from the old server. Hi Dave, I don't think I had these permissions on the old system, but I thank you, and I'll make sure to propose documented work flows on the list before I actually implement them. Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html ^^ You may want to update the list signature as well ;-) Kind regards, -- Jeroen van Meeuwen Senior Engineer, Kolab Systems AG e: vanmeeu...@kolabsys.com t: +316 42 801 403 w: http://www.kolabsys.com pgp: 9342 BF08 Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: New Cyrus project site and bugzilla
On 9/3/10 8:24 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) wrote: I don't think I had these permissions on the old system, but I thank you, and I'll make sure to propose documented work flows on the list before I actually implement them. You did not previously have those permissions. I just added them. I went back and looked at the old bugzilla installation, and I actually could not find the workflow config interface there. Perhaps I just didn't look hard enough... Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html ^^ You may want to update the list signature as well ;-) Good idea. I *think* I just did, but if the text below this is broken, I'll know I'm wrong. Thanks, Dave Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
