Re: newbie question
Hi, --On Montag, 14. Juni 2004 20:26 Uhr -0400 Andrew J Caird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cyrus IMAP is more complicated than UWIMAP, for example, but it does many things UWIMAP can't do - multiple access being one of them. actually that's not true, but it's a common misconception. UW IMAP does support multiple access (in some respects actually better than Cyrus) *if* you use mbx mailboxes. I've used that for years and I'd always recommend this setup for a smallish installation. Cyrus wins hands down as your user base grows into the hundreds or thousands, but for just a handful of users UW IMAP is much easier to set up. Cheers, Sebastian Hagedorn -- Sebastian Hagedorn M.A. - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18 Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - Universitätsweiter Service RRZK Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - Tel. +49-221-478-5587 pgphXA1oHxmTN.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: newbie question
On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 10:12, John Arthur wrote: > Well I guess that would depend on what type of system you are installing it > on. Simon Matter provides an excellent RPM for RedHat which is what I have > based my (customised) setup on. As far as reliability goes Cyrus is an > outstanding piece of software. Agreed. I've basically been able to install it and forget about it, which is _bliss_ when working as a sysadmin in a small company that in many ways has big company IT needs. One thing I'd love to see would be some tips on properly configuring the Berkley DB for Cyrus. The only problem I've had with Cyrus was BDB-related. I was under the impression for a long time that BDB was just unreliable, but it seems from things people have been saying here that it's simply misconfigured most of the time. If that's correct, then some info on how to get it right would be really handy. If someone who knows enough about BDB and Cyrus can provide me with that info, I'll fill it out and write it up for the wiki. I'm sure some of it will interest the NetATalk folks as well. Craig Ringer --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
RE: newbie question
Hi Dudi, > I am fairly experienced, done lots of sendmail installations to a manual > modification of sendmail.cf ;-), A/V, spam filters etc., so I guess I'll > manage - probably with some help from this list If you do not mind my asking. If you are so familiar with sendmail, why do you want to use postfix with Cyrus? >Now, not being familiar with Cyrus at all, I wonder what am I facing >here time wise, complexity, reliability etc. Well I guess that would depend on what type of system you are installing it on. Simon Matter provides an excellent RPM for RedHat which is what I have based my (customised) setup on. As far as reliability goes Cyrus is an outstanding piece of software. John --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
RE: newbie question
Sounds good! Thanks for the quick reply. I am fairly experienced, done lots of sendmail installations to a manual modification of sendmail.cf ;-), A/V, spam filters etc., so I guess I'll manage - probably with some help from this list This customer is also a personal friend of mine, you can understand my concerns. Regards, Dudi = Dudi, You might want to look at this information on CMU's installation: http://acs-wiki.andrew.cmu.edu/twiki/bin/view/Cyrus/CarnegieMellonCyrusI nstallation Cyrus IMAP is more complicated than UWIMAP, for example, but it does many things UWIMAP can't do - multiple access being one of them. And it's not terribly complicated, allow some time for testing, and know that when you've got it sorted out, it will be very reliable. 32,000+ CMU Tartans can't be wrong, can they? Not knowing what the real requirements you have are, or your general experience level with this sort of thing, I can't begin to guess how much time you'll invest. You'll probably be able to get a test-bed up and going in less than a week. Test until your happy, and to prove to yourself that the software does what you want and need. Hope this helps, and good luck. -- Andrew Caird --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: newbie question
Quoting Dudi Goldenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello list, > > I need to provide a solution to one of my customers. > > They expect around 6000-8000 emails a day, no big issue here, postfix > will handle this part. > > There are only 10 users accounts on this site, but all 10 accounts are > simultaneously active on all 10 machines. > > Some reading on Cyrus site made Cyrus IMAP my choice due to its multiple > access abilities per mailbox. > > Now, not being familiar with Cyrus at all, I wonder what am I facing > here time wise, complexity, reliability etc. > > Any comments, pros/cons, recommendations are welcomed. Dudi, You might want to look at this information on CMU's installation: http://acs-wiki.andrew.cmu.edu/twiki/bin/view/Cyrus/CarnegieMellonCyrusInstallation Cyrus IMAP is more complicated than UWIMAP, for example, but it does many things UWIMAP can't do - multiple access being one of them. And it's not terribly complicated, allow some time for testing, and know that when you've got it sorted out, it will be very reliable. 32,000+ CMU Tartans can't be wrong, can they? Not knowing what the real requirements you have are, or your general experience level with this sort of thing, I can't begin to guess how much time you'll invest. You'll probably be able to get a test-bed up and going in less than a week. Test until your happy, and to prove to yourself that the software does what you want and need. Hope this helps, and good luck. -- Andrew Caird --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Newbie question - moving from wu-imapd to cyrus-imapd on fedora core 1
James Marcinek wrote: Hello everyone, I am preparing to move from the default wu-imapd to cyrus. I am very new to cyrus though. I've been using my server with Squirrelmail and would like to preserve all the information if possible. I am preparing to move to OpenGroupware. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, James RHCE --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html read the documentationbut also get the oreilly book! It's a bit outdated by now, but it's still a great start for a person like yourself Oskar --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Newbie question
Jordi, first of all I am using SuSE 8.2. Having installed the rpms; cyrus-imapd, cyrus-sasl2, perl-cyrus-imap (provides cyradm, cyrus configuration tool), and postfix; the set up was as follows (I included the most important - I think! - parameters, but I can send the whole file if you wish) ; /etc/imapd.conf admins:cyrus allowanonymouslogin:no sasl_pwcheck_method:auxprop Then (note that the default admin here is cyrus, a system user created for administerring Cyrus IMAP); saslpasswd2 cyrus Enter you password as asked and confirm that the user cyrus is in the sasldb with; sasldblistusers2 You should see something like: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: userPassword Start the cyrus-imapd daemon, with a (on SuSE.). You should now be able to use cyradm thus; cyradm --auth login localhost --user cyrus Provide the password you supplied to the saslpasswd2 program earlier, and voila, you have been authenticated via sasldb. Type help at the command prompt for further help on cyradm. Hope this helps. Cheers Al - Original Message - From: "Jordi Pallarès" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Allister Gearon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Craig Ringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cyrus IMAP Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Newbie question > Hi all, > > I'm tryng to make the same login as you (with sasldb) but in my redhat9 > i can't implement it. > Can you explain me how did you do it?. > I've just login inside cyrus if i have a s.o. user. > > Thanks a lot. > > Jordi Pallarès > > Allister Gearon wrote: > > > Craig, > > thanks for your reply. At the moment users that login on my Cyrus server > > are authenticated via auxprop -> sasldb. That works fine. I am also trying > > to fetch mail from an upstream POP3 server and am using Fetchmail, which > > does not like the fact that the recipient of the email is not a user (at the > > moment) on the OS. As result mail is bounced. I will write to the > > fetchmail list to see if they have any ideas. Thanks again > > Al > > >
Re: Newbie question
Craig, I was probably not being clear, an explanation of Fetchmail's default behaviour with users that do not appear in the system can be found here; http://www.catb.org/~esr/fetchmail/fetchmail-FAQ.html#C1 However, this behaviour is changed very easily as a kind correspondent on the Fetcmail list informed me. Supposing our cyrus user is called 'auser', simply add < smtpname "auser" > to the command line or fetchmailrc and the mail is delivered to cyrus mailbox user.auser. Thanks to yourself and this other gent I am now rolling along at a great pace - just got to get some kind of mail filtering going on. Talking of mail filtering, you don't know of any howto's etc dealing with sieve do you? I have a manage-sieve-perl script installed on my server, and a sieve daemon? listening at 2000 but I haven't a clue how to use it and there seems to be no official documentation. Certainly b-all in the on the man page. Thanks again for your help. Cheers Al - Original Message - > > If fetchmail is using it's defaults, it'll be trying to deliver the mail > to the local MTA using SMTP, in which case things should 'just work' if > the MTA is configured correctly. It may well not be a fetchmail problem. > > Can you "mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]" from the cyrus server? If not, then > it's probably your MTA and not fetchmail that's at fault. > > The MTA shouldn't really care if the user exists - unless it's > configured to check - but should just try to deliver the mail to Cyrus > via LMTP when handed the message by fetchmail. Cyrus will reject the > message if the user has no mailbox, but it doesn't care (for purposes of > mail /delivery/) whether they exist in the authentication database at all. > > Do you know at what stage the messages are being rejected, and by what? > > A copy of a bounce could well be helpful, if it is actually bouncing the > mail. > > I'm having to make a lot of guesses, as I don't know (1) whether you > take normal direct mail delivery via SMTP, (b) what the bounce/errors > are, (3) whether you're using virtual domains, etc. Sorry if I'm in the > wrong ballpark. > > Craig Ringer > >
Re: Newbie question
On 25.11.2003 10:55 + Allister Gearon wrote: thanks for your reply. At the moment users that login on my Cyrus server are authenticated via auxprop -> sasldb. That works fine. I am also trying to fetch mail from an upstream POP3 server and am using Fetchmail, which does not like the fact that the recipient of the email is not a user (at the moment) on the OS. As result mail is bounced. I will write to the fetchmail list to see if they have any ideas. This isn't exactly a problem. You'll have to tell fetchmail that it has to use cyrus' own delivery program. Just look at the various fetchmail mta options (keyword mta, commandline -m). If your situation is more complex (i.e. you need to filter the mails before they are delivered to your local cyrus accounts) you can use a fetchmail -> procmail -> deliver chain (deliver is the program used by cyrus to handle local deliveries via lmtp). -- PGP key-id: 7029C744 at http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net
Re: Newbie question
> Craig, > thanks for your reply. At the moment users that login on my Cyrus server > are authenticated via auxprop -> sasldb. That works fine. I am also > trying > to fetch mail from an upstream POP3 server and am using Fetchmail, which > does not like the fact that the recipient of the email is not a user (at > the > moment) on the OS. As result mail is bounced. I will write to the I'm using fetchmail like this with cyrus-imapd. That way fetchmail delivers directly via lmtp: /usr/bin/fetchmail --fetchmailrc /etc/fetchmailrc --smtphost \ /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp --syslog --daemon 120 --all HTH Simon > fetchmail list to see if they have any ideas. Thanks again > Al > >
Re: Newbie question
Hi all, I'm tryng to make the same login as you (with sasldb) but in my redhat9 i can't implement it. Can you explain me how did you do it?. I've just login inside cyrus if i have a s.o. user. Thanks a lot. Jordi Pallarès Allister Gearon wrote: Craig, thanks for your reply. At the moment users that login on my Cyrus server are authenticated via auxprop -> sasldb. That works fine. I am also trying to fetch mail from an upstream POP3 server and am using Fetchmail, which does not like the fact that the recipient of the email is not a user (at the moment) on the OS. As result mail is bounced. I will write to the fetchmail list to see if they have any ideas. Thanks again Al
Re: Newbie question
thanks for your reply. At the moment users that login on my Cyrus server are authenticated via auxprop -> sasldb. That works fine. Aha, sorry. It sounded from your post like you were just trying to get things up and running for the first time. I am also trying to fetch mail from an upstream POP3 server and am using Fetchmail, which does not like the fact that the recipient of the email is not a user (at the moment) on the OS. As result mail is bounced. I will write to the fetchmail list to see if they have any ideas. If fetchmail is using it's defaults, it'll be trying to deliver the mail to the local MTA using SMTP, in which case things should 'just work' if the MTA is configured correctly. It may well not be a fetchmail problem. Can you "mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]" from the cyrus server? If not, then it's probably your MTA and not fetchmail that's at fault. The MTA shouldn't really care if the user exists - unless it's configured to check - but should just try to deliver the mail to Cyrus via LMTP when handed the message by fetchmail. Cyrus will reject the message if the user has no mailbox, but it doesn't care (for purposes of mail /delivery/) whether they exist in the authentication database at all. Do you know at what stage the messages are being rejected, and by what? A copy of a bounce could well be helpful, if it is actually bouncing the mail. I'm having to make a lot of guesses, as I don't know (1) whether you take normal direct mail delivery via SMTP, (b) what the bounce/errors are, (3) whether you're using virtual domains, etc. Sorry if I'm in the wrong ballpark. Craig Ringer
Re: Newbie question
Craig, thanks for your reply. At the moment users that login on my Cyrus server are authenticated via auxprop -> sasldb. That works fine. I am also trying to fetch mail from an upstream POP3 server and am using Fetchmail, which does not like the fact that the recipient of the email is not a user (at the moment) on the OS. As result mail is bounced. I will write to the fetchmail list to see if they have any ideas. Thanks again Al
Re: Newbie question
I'm not a Cyrus expert - being fairly new to it myself - but I thought I'd jump in and explain my understanding of things in case it's useful to you: I am trying to configure Cyrus-IMAP (version 2.1.12), and I am a little confused. As I understand it one of the main advantages of the Cyrus mail server is that the server is a sealed server. It can run as a sealed server but it doesn't have to. I run Cyrus on a host that does /many/ other things. Do I undestand correctly from this that the users do not have to be created on the OS of the Cyrus mail server, that the mailboxes just have to be created via the cyradm tool. You will need some form of user authentication in addition to the existance of mailboxes. The server needs to be able to validate that that the person trying to log in as "bob" really is "bob" and should have access to "bob"'s mailbox. It's possible to have Cyrus look up a separate user database (sasldb, private LDAP directory, etc) _or_ share the system's user authentication (shared LDAP; PAM; unix auth, kerberos, etc). It's very common to use an LDAP directory to authenticate users, either one private to cyrus or one that's used by the rest of the system as well. Using PAM to share the same authentication setup as the rest of the server is also common. I found Cyrus's authentication quite complex at first, but it does make sense - it's a bit complex because it's extremely flexible. I recently did a "map" of the way the various ways cyrus can authenticate users - it's a draft and not accompanied by any explanation, but in case it's of any use you can read it here: http://www.postnewspapers.com.au/~craig/cyrus_authentication_map.pdf Most of these components are fairly well documented, it's just an overview of how it all fits together that seems to be missing. Or is that you create the users on the OS but just don't provide them with a shell? That's possible too. You can also potentially have all normal users on the OS able to access Cyrus, /and/ some extra Cyrus-only users. It all depends on the authentication scheme you choose, and how you plug everything together. I recently posted a rather badly written example config to the cyrus wiki, based on my setup here. If it's of any interest, you can find it here: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/twiki/bin/view/Cyrus/SampleCyrusConfigurations My setup falls into the non-sealed server category, and every user with mail access also has system login access - we don't need mail-only users here at present. Hope this helps. Craig Ringer
Re: Newbie question - Redhat8.0 howto
There are many howto's: For use with PostgreSQL with RPMS: http://home.teleport.ch/simix/RPMS/Cyrus-imapd/contrib/Postfix+cyrus+postgreSQL+web-cyradm.pdf or a copy of it here http://www.web-cyradm.org/documentation/Postfix-cyrus-postgreSQL-web-cyradm.pdf For Use with MySQL from tarballs: http://www.delouw.ch/linux/Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO/html/index.html another one here: http://www.web-cyradm.org/documentation/web-cyradm-redhat.txt On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 17:44, Martin Ferguson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set-up Cyrus2.1.13 on Redhat8.0 and I'm having some issues > with authentication, does anyone have a recent howto for this platform, > the only one I could find http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Cyrus-IMAP.html is > very out of date. > > Thanks in advance > Martin. -- Andrew Koros Developer, Systems Services UUNET (Kenya) Ltd http://www.uunet.co.ke Tel: +254 2 69088618 Fax: +254 2 69088001 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by electronic mail, and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you.
Re: Newbie question - Redhat8.0 howto
Hi Martin, is kerberos the issue? Then have look at this threads: "Compiling Cyrus-Imap/Kerberos problems" and "RH 9.0 ssl compiler error" Maybe it helps. Regards, Chris > > Hi, > > I'm trying to set-up Cyrus2.1.13 on Redhat8.0 and I'm having some issues > with authentication, does anyone have a recent howto for this platform, > the only one I could find http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Cyrus-IMAP.html is > very out of date. > > Thanks in advance > Martin. >
Re: newbie question
> I just reinstalled debian (3.0) to my linux box and this time I > installed cyrus-imapd from .deb packages.. (got exim as the mailerpart) > > Now I'm just wondering, how the hell do I create those mailboxes for > users? I'm starting to lose hair due this. :-p Assuming you've configured it the way you want it, now you can use cyradm to connect and create mailboxes. Check the documentation, this part is documented quite well. If you'll have trouble with anything, it'll be SASL. I just put up a Debian cyrus server, so if you get stuck again just drop me a line. Good luck. -- Chris Hilts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question
Hi Mika! Have a look at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Cyrus-IMAP.html. Christoph On Wednesday 02 October 2002 13:10, Mika Tuunanen wrote: > Hiho! > > I just reinstalled debian (3.0) to my linux box and this time I installed > cyrus-imapd from .deb packages.. (got exim as the mailerpart) > > Now I'm just wondering, how the hell do I create those mailboxes for > users? I'm starting to lose hair due this. :-p
Re: newbie question....cjk
Dear Sir. I gave # ./cyradm and i had the following error : ./cyradm: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Any suggestions... >From: "tarjei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "tarjei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Constantine Koulis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: newbie questioncjk >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:37:17 +0200 > >install websieve to give your users vacation and filtering posibilities. > >when it comes to quotas, just log in to cyradm and set the qoutas for each >user.mailbox >(use the help command to find the correct one). You can also set a default >quota on new users by putting the line: >autocreatequota: 10 >in imapd.conf. > >cheers! >Tarjei >- Original Message - >From: Constantine Koulis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:10 PM >Subject: newbie questioncjk > > > > Hello all. > > I have a mail server running Cyrus-Imap with sendmail and squirrelmail >on > > it.I am very satisfied until now but i would like some restrictions to >may > > IMAP-Webbased users.I would like to limit the space to their mailbox and > > also another future to make the deleted items to be removed >automatically > > from the TRASH folder... > > I would like to point out that my cyrus-imap was installed from rpm. > > Sincerely > > >_ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: newbie question....cjk
install websieve to give your users vacation and filtering posibilities. when it comes to quotas, just log in to cyradm and set the qoutas for each user.mailbox (use the help command to find the correct one). You can also set a default quota on new users by putting the line: autocreatequota: 10 in imapd.conf. cheers! Tarjei - Original Message - From: Constantine Koulis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:10 PM Subject: newbie questioncjk > Hello all. > I have a mail server running Cyrus-Imap with sendmail and squirrelmail on > it.I am very satisfied until now but i would like some restrictions to may > IMAP-Webbased users.I would like to limit the space to their mailbox and > also another future to make the deleted items to be removed automatically > from the TRASH folder... > I would like to point out that my cyrus-imap was installed from rpm. > Sincerely > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > >
