Recommendations for Thunderbird settings when it hangs copying to sent folder

2005-10-26 Thread Klaus P. Pieper

Hi,

Cyrus 2.1.18 on Debian Sarge used mostly with Thunderbird 1.0.6 on 
Windows XP. One NAT router and an additional router / switch between the 
server and the TB clients.


Occasionally (it appears that this happens usually after intensive use 
of the search function) the TB client hangs after sending out a mail 
with the message copying to sent folder. It is not related to the size 
of the message. The message *is* sent out but then we have to restart 
the TB client. No chance to save the message in the IMAP sent folder.


There are a few bug reports available on this but I haven't found a real 
solution so far. Does anybody use the combination of TB and Cyrus 
without problems? Could we use a sieve script to put a copy of each 
outgoing mail into the sent folder (instead of having the client do this)?


Thanks Klaus

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Re: Recommendations for Thunderbird settings when it hangs copying to sent folder

2005-10-26 Thread Ken Murchison

Klaus P. Pieper wrote:

Hi,

Cyrus 2.1.18 on Debian Sarge used mostly with Thunderbird 1.0.6 on 
Windows XP. One NAT router and an additional router / switch between the 
server and the TB clients.


Occasionally (it appears that this happens usually after intensive use 
of the search function) the TB client hangs after sending out a mail 
with the message copying to sent folder. It is not related to the size 
of the message. The message *is* sent out but then we have to restart 
the TB client. No chance to save the message in the IMAP sent folder.


There are a few bug reports available on this but I haven't found a real 
solution so far. Does anybody use the combination of TB and Cyrus 
without problems? Could we use a sieve script to put a copy of each 
outgoing mail into the sent folder (instead of having the client do this)?


This isn't a problem with Cyrus or TB, its a problem with your NAT 
router closing idle connections.  In TB under the advanced server 
settings, try changing the number of cached connections to 0 or 1, and 
disable the use of the IDLE command.


--
Kenneth Murchison
Systems Programmer
Carnegie Mellon University

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Re: Recommendations for Thunderbird settings when it hangs copying to sent folder

2005-10-26 Thread twk

Klaus P. Pieper wrote:

Hi,

Cyrus 2.1.18 on Debian Sarge used mostly with Thunderbird 1.0.6 on 
Windows XP. One NAT router and an additional router / switch between the 
server and the TB clients.


Occasionally (it appears that this happens usually after intensive use 
of the search function) the TB client hangs after sending out a mail 
with the message copying to sent folder. It is not related to the size 
of the message. The message *is* sent out but then we have to restart 
the TB client. No chance to save the message in the IMAP sent folder.


There are a few bug reports available on this but I haven't found a real 
solution so far. Does anybody use the combination of TB and Cyrus 
without problems? Could we use a sieve script to put a copy of each 
outgoing mail into the sent folder (instead of having the client do this)?




Klaus,

The way I solved this was by designating a specific folder to be my sent 
 folder (in my case out), adding the anyone p privelege to the 
folder, then replacing the save a copy action with a BCC with plus 
addressing to the out folder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Then, a copy of the 
message is actually sent to the sent folder, which is not dependent on 
the copy action in Thunderbird.


I have used this for years and it works flawlessly

2 caveats :
- our sendmail rules normalize everything to lower case, so the folder 
name must be all lower case letters
- everything in the out folder appears as a unread message. I 
occasionally select all the messages and mark them as read.


--Tom

--
Tom Karchesemail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web/Email Systems Adminphone : 919.515.5508
NCSU Information Technology

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Re: Recommendations for Thunderbird settings when it hangs copying to sent folder

2005-10-26 Thread Klaus P. Pieper

Ken Murchison schrieb:

This isn't a problem with Cyrus or TB, its a problem with your NAT 
router closing idle connections.  In TB under the advanced server 
settings, try changing the number of cached connections to 0 or 1, and 
disable the use of the IDLE command.



Thanks.
Does setting the number of cached connections to 0 or 1 automatically 
disable the use of the IDLE command or is there any other setting involved?


Klaus

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Re: Recommendations for Thunderbird settings when it hangs copying to sent folder

2005-10-26 Thread Klaus P. Pieper

twk schrieb:


Klaus,

The way I solved this was by designating a specific folder to be my 
sent  folder (in my case out), adding the anyone p privelege to 
the folder, then replacing the save a copy action with a BCC with 
plus addressing to the out folder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Then, a copy 
of the message is actually sent to the sent folder, which is not 
dependent on the copy action in Thunderbird.


I have used this for years and it works flawlessly

2 caveats :
- our sendmail rules normalize everything to lower case, so the folder 
name must be all lower case letters
- everything in the out folder appears as a unread message. I 
occasionally select all the messages and mark them as read.


Tom,

thanks. I'll try Ken's advise first and use your proposal if that won't 
help.


Klaus


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Re: Recommendations for Thunderbird settings when it hangs copying to sent folder

2005-10-26 Thread Klaus P. Pieper

Klaus P. Pieper schrieb:


Thanks.
Does setting the number of cached connections to 0 or 1 automatically 
disable the use of the IDLE command or is there any other setting 
involved?


Done. Found the checkbox to disable IDLE. Let's see how it works.

Klaus


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