Re: Thunderbird and "Login to server failed".

2017-10-05 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2017-10-05 at 16:50 +0200, Dr. Peer-Joachim Koch wrote:
> Yes, seems to work. (-n 5 -> -n 50 - no problems any more).
> Has anybody tried to use -c -t (c = caching, t=timeout for cache).
> What about users changing the password 

I have always used caching;  password changes have not been a problem,
a negative response invalidates the cache entry. AFAIK it only caches
positive attempts.

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Re: Thunderbird and "Login to server failed".

2017-10-05 Thread Dr. Peer-Joachim Koch

Yes, seems to work. (-n 5 -> -n 50 - no problems any more).
Has anybody tried to use -c -t (c = caching, t=timeout for cache). What 
about users

changing the password 

Bye, Peer

On 05.10.2017 16:21, Michael Sofka wrote:
This was one of the symptoms of slow authentication that we saw before 
I increased the saslauthd threads.


Mike

On 10/04/2017 09:09 AM, Eugene M. Zheganin wrote:

Hi,

I'm using cyrus-imapd (now 2.4.x) and Thunderbird. The problem is, 
when I click fast on the e-mails, I often get the "Login to server 
foo.bar failed" (when I click like one -email per 3 seconds 
everything is fine). My password is okay, so I just press "Cancel". I 
live with this problem for a really long time, and I can say the this 
is specific to the TB: it doesn't happen in Outlook. I've read a lot 
about this, and, besides the mailbox being improperly configured and 
failing authrization 100% of the time (which is not my case), there's 
an urban legend that TB uses by default  5 concurrent connections to 
the IMAP server (and this part is true), while cyrus permits less. 
But the thing is, even with 1 connecton configured in TB (in advanced 
settings), I still get this error when clicking messages fast. No 
errors are logged on the cyrus side, just the normal log stating that 
I was allowed to examine my mailbox.


Is there any way to get rid of these boring messages ?

Cyrus ML may not be the correct place to ask for this, but BT/Mozilla 
community just gives me futile answers like "are you sure you type 
your passwords right" and so on.



Thanks.

Eugene.


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Re: Thunderbird and "Login to server failed".

2017-10-05 Thread Michael Sofka
This was one of the symptoms of slow authentication that we saw before I 
increased the saslauthd threads.


Mike

On 10/04/2017 09:09 AM, Eugene M. Zheganin wrote:

Hi,

I'm using cyrus-imapd (now 2.4.x) and Thunderbird. The problem is, when 
I click fast on the e-mails, I often get the "Login to server foo.bar 
failed" (when I click like one -email per 3 seconds everything is fine). 
My password is okay, so I just press "Cancel". I live with this problem 
for a really long time, and I can say the this is specific to the TB: it 
doesn't happen in Outlook. I've read a lot about this, and, besides the 
mailbox being improperly configured and failing authrization 100% of the 
time (which is not my case), there's an urban legend that TB uses by 
default  5 concurrent connections to the IMAP server (and this part is 
true), while cyrus permits less. But the thing is, even with 1 connecton 
configured in TB (in advanced settings), I still get this error when 
clicking messages fast. No errors are logged on the cyrus side, just the 
normal log stating that I was allowed to examine my mailbox.


Is there any way to get rid of these boring messages ?

Cyrus ML may not be the correct place to ask for this, but BT/Mozilla 
community just gives me futile answers like "are you sure you type your 
passwords right" and so on.



Thanks.

Eugene.


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Re: Thunderbird and "Login to server failed".

2017-10-04 Thread John Wade
We also have seen this with Thunderbird and cyrus 2.4, never had time to 
debug.  Always assumed it was a client defect.


John

On 10/4/2017 9:09 AM, Eugene M. Zheganin wrote:

Hi,

On 04.10.2017 18:26, Simon Matter wrote:

Interesting, I've never seen this problem over the years.

Are there firewall rules active on the cyrus-imapd host? Probably 
limiting

connection rate?

Yeah, but this happens even when I'm in the same LAN as the server is, 
and no filtering between my machine and server happens at all. 
Furthermore, I'm administering this server packet filter and I can 
tell that there's no connection-limiting rules at all. Plus, I've had 
this reproduced right now and made sure that the firewall logged no 
blocked packets, so whatever the cause is, it's not a firewall.



Thanks.

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Re: Thunderbird and "Login to server failed".

2017-10-04 Thread Arnaldo Viegas de Lima
TCP wrapper?

> On Oct 4, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Eugene M. Zheganin  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 04.10.2017 18:26, Simon Matter wrote:
>> Interesting, I've never seen this problem over the years.
>> 
>> Are there firewall rules active on the cyrus-imapd host? Probably limiting
>> connection rate?
>> 
> Yeah, but this happens even when I'm in the same LAN as the server is, and no 
> filtering between my machine and server happens at all. Furthermore, I'm 
> administering this server packet filter and I can tell that there's no 
> connection-limiting rules at all. Plus, I've had this reproduced right now 
> and made sure that the firewall logged no blocked packets, so whatever the 
> cause is, it's not a firewall.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Eugene.
> 
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Re: Thunderbird and "Login to server failed".

2017-10-04 Thread Eugene M. Zheganin

Hi,

On 04.10.2017 18:26, Simon Matter wrote:

Interesting, I've never seen this problem over the years.

Are there firewall rules active on the cyrus-imapd host? Probably limiting
connection rate?

Yeah, but this happens even when I'm in the same LAN as the server is, 
and no filtering between my machine and server happens at all. 
Furthermore, I'm administering this server packet filter and I can tell 
that there's no connection-limiting rules at all. Plus, I've had this 
reproduced right now and made sure that the firewall logged no blocked 
packets, so whatever the cause is, it's not a firewall.



Thanks.

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Re: Thunderbird and "Login to server failed".

2017-10-04 Thread Dr. Peer-Joachim Koch

Hi,

since we upgraded our installation to 2.4.18-142 (SuSE SLES) we see the 
same behavior.

We are using the same settings as before. Fast deleting (2 msg per second)
of messages shows "login failed".
I haven't checked this out. Any idea how to analyses this ?

Bye, Peer

On 04.10.2017 15:26, Simon Matter wrote:

Hi,

I'm using cyrus-imapd (now 2.4.x) and Thunderbird. The problem is, when
I click fast on the e-mails, I often get the "Login to server foo.bar
failed" (when I click like one -email per 3 seconds everything is fine).
My password is okay, so I just press "Cancel". I live with this problem
for a really long time, and I can say the this is specific to the TB: it
doesn't happen in Outlook. I've read a lot about this, and, besides the
mailbox being improperly configured and failing authrization 100% of the
time (which is not my case), there's an urban legend that TB uses by
default  5 concurrent connections to the IMAP server (and this part is
true), while cyrus permits less. But the thing is, even with 1 connecton
configured in TB (in advanced settings), I still get this error when
clicking messages fast. No errors are logged on the cyrus side, just the
normal log stating that I was allowed to examine my mailbox.

Is there any way to get rid of these boring messages ?

Cyrus ML may not be the correct place to ask for this, but BT/Mozilla
community just gives me futile answers like "are you sure you type your
passwords right" and so on.

Interesting, I've never seen this problem over the years.

Are there firewall rules active on the cyrus-imapd host? Probably limiting
connection rate?

Regards,
Simon


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Re: Thunderbird and "Login to server failed".

2017-10-04 Thread Simon Matter
> Hi,
>
> I'm using cyrus-imapd (now 2.4.x) and Thunderbird. The problem is, when
> I click fast on the e-mails, I often get the "Login to server foo.bar
> failed" (when I click like one -email per 3 seconds everything is fine).
> My password is okay, so I just press "Cancel". I live with this problem
> for a really long time, and I can say the this is specific to the TB: it
> doesn't happen in Outlook. I've read a lot about this, and, besides the
> mailbox being improperly configured and failing authrization 100% of the
> time (which is not my case), there's an urban legend that TB uses by
> default  5 concurrent connections to the IMAP server (and this part is
> true), while cyrus permits less. But the thing is, even with 1 connecton
> configured in TB (in advanced settings), I still get this error when
> clicking messages fast. No errors are logged on the cyrus side, just the
> normal log stating that I was allowed to examine my mailbox.
>
> Is there any way to get rid of these boring messages ?
>
> Cyrus ML may not be the correct place to ask for this, but BT/Mozilla
> community just gives me futile answers like "are you sure you type your
> passwords right" and so on.

Interesting, I've never seen this problem over the years.

Are there firewall rules active on the cyrus-imapd host? Probably limiting
connection rate?

Regards,
Simon


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Thunderbird and "Login to server failed".

2017-10-04 Thread Eugene M. Zheganin

Hi,

I'm using cyrus-imapd (now 2.4.x) and Thunderbird. The problem is, when 
I click fast on the e-mails, I often get the "Login to server foo.bar 
failed" (when I click like one -email per 3 seconds everything is fine). 
My password is okay, so I just press "Cancel". I live with this problem 
for a really long time, and I can say the this is specific to the TB: it 
doesn't happen in Outlook. I've read a lot about this, and, besides the 
mailbox being improperly configured and failing authrization 100% of the 
time (which is not my case), there's an urban legend that TB uses by 
default  5 concurrent connections to the IMAP server (and this part is 
true), while cyrus permits less. But the thing is, even with 1 connecton 
configured in TB (in advanced settings), I still get this error when 
clicking messages fast. No errors are logged on the cyrus side, just the 
normal log stating that I was allowed to examine my mailbox.


Is there any way to get rid of these boring messages ?

Cyrus ML may not be the correct place to ask for this, but BT/Mozilla 
community just gives me futile answers like "are you sure you type your 
passwords right" and so on.



Thanks.

Eugene.


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