Re: How to display read articles?
Angel de Vicente ang...@iac.es writes: I just decided to switch to Gnus for my news/mail experience, and I'm learning how to do different things with it. One thing that I have not managed to do (forgive me, it's pretty late here) is to view read articles in the summary buffer. I mean: after reading some articles, I exit the summary buffer, then later on I enter the group again, and the read articles are gone. I know that they are not deleted, and I've trying to find the option to let me see all the messages in a group (regardless of whether they had been read or not), but could not find it in the documentation. I'm sure it is somewhere in there, but the number of available options in Gnus is just overwhelming I switched to Gnus recently and had a similar problem, but it was with groups disappearing from the *Group* buffer. Adding the following line to my gnus.el file fixed this. (setq gnus-permanently-visible-groups .*) I think you may be using Gnus improperly (for lack of a better word). If you're only reading *some* messages in a group and then leaving with some messages still unread, then only those messages will show up when you reenter the group. When you've read all messages of interest, you should catchup by typing 'c'. That will mark all unread messages as read and when you reenter the group (so long as there are no new messages), Gnus will show *all* messages (first asking you how many to show, if there are over a certain number of articles). Hope this helps, Aidan Gauland ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to display read articles?
prad p...@towardsfreedom.com writes: Hi! When point is on that message, hit `A T' to gather the complete thread. i've found that i don't always get back the entire thread. is there a way to do that other than go to gmane to find it? The variable `gnus-refer-article-method' is responsible for controlling how threads are gathered by ^ and A T. ,[ C-h v gnus-refer-article-method RET ] | gnus-refer-article-method is a variable defined in `gnus.el'. | Its value is (current | (nnregistry) | (nnir) | (nnweb gmane | (nnweb-type gmane)) | (nnweb google | (nnweb-type google))) | | Original value was current | | Documentation: | Preferred method for fetching an article by Message-ID. | The value of this variable must be a valid select method as discussed | in the documentation of `gnus-select-method'. | | It can also be a list of select methods, as well as the special symbol | `current', which means to use the current select method. If it is a | list, Gnus will try all the methods in the list until it finds a match. | | You can customize this variable. | | This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in | version 24.1 of Emacs. ` The default value is `current', which means Gnus will only check the current group for ancestors. This won't work if your mail replies are in some Sent folder, so you might want to use gcc-self. My value says to first try checking the current group, then the Gnus registry, then search all groups of the current server using nnir (works out-of-the-box only for Gmane and IMAP), and if that fails try checking gmane and google groups. You might also check `gnus-summary-thread-gathering-function' which tells Gnus how to gather threads. I do that by reference, which is more exact. But there are some mail/newsreaders that generate broken references, and in that case, Gnus won't be able to gather complete threads. Bye, Tassilo ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to display read articles?
Tassilo == Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org writes: Tassilo prad p...@towardsfreedom.com writes: Hi! When point is on that message, hit `A T' to gather the complete thread. i've found that i don't always get back the entire thread. is there a way to do that other than go to gmane to find it? For nntp groups (like gmane) there is no way to search for the thread on the server. So gnus downloads a certain number of article headers (by default 500) and finds articles that are part of the thread in this group. If you want more you can do one of two things: 1. increase the value of gnus-refer-thread-limit. The downside is that fetching too many headers can be slow. 2. use numeric prefix arg when calling A T. For example C-c u 1000 A T will override the default limit of 500 and fetch 1000 headers Tassilo The variable `gnus-refer-article-method' is responsible for Tassilo controlling how threads are gathered by ^ and A T. Actually this variable is not used when fetching a full thread with A T. Both A R and A T have limitations at the moment. A R fetches only those articles mentioned in the references header, so it won't necessarily find a whole thread. But it uses `gnus-refer-article-method' as Tassilo described. A T will look for the entire thread, but at the moment will only look in the current group. I will try to remove this limitation when I get a chance. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to display read articles?
Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes: Hi! I mean: after reading some articles, I exit the summary buffer, then later on I enter the group again, and the read articles are gone. I know that they are not deleted, and I've trying to find the option to let me see all the messages in a group (regardless of whether they had been read or not), but could not find it in the documentation. Go to the Group listing and hit G P to go to Group Parameters and add the following ((display . 100)) and then C-c C-c. This will show the last 100 articles and you can change it to any number you choose to. Or if you want to see old messages only occationally, simply enter the group with a numeric prefix arg indicating the number of old messages. So instead of RET on a group you'd do C-u 100 RET to see the latest 100 messages. Or if you are already in a summary buffer, you can use C-u 100 M-g to reload it with the latest 100 messages. However, generally there's seldomly a need to open summaries with N latest messages. I guess you do that for searching some specific mail. But for this use-case, searching with nnir (which works out of the box for IMAP and Gmane-nntp groups) is far superior. ,[ (info (gnus)nnir) ] | This section describes how to use `nnir' to search for articles within | gnus. ` Bye, Tassilo ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to display read articles?
Hi, Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org writes: Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes: I mean: after reading some articles, I exit the summary buffer, then later on I enter the group again, and the read articles are gone. I know that they are not deleted, and I've trying to find the option to let me see all the messages in a group (regardless of whether they had been read or not), but could not find it in the documentation. Go to the Group listing and hit G P to go to Group Parameters and add the following ((display . 100)) and then C-c C-c. This will show the last 100 articles and you can change it to any number you choose to. Or if you want to see old messages only occationally, simply enter the group with a numeric prefix arg indicating the number of old messages. So instead of RET on a group you'd do C-u 100 RET to see the latest 100 messages. thanks for this. It works but it is not really what I was looking for. I want to find a way to display read messages mostly for mail. Say I have exchanged some mail with a person a couple of months ago. Most of the mails I've read, but one of them is still unread (I usually just keep messages as unread to indicate that I need to do something about them). Today I want to take some action on that mail, but I would like to see the complete thread. Showing the last 100 messages might not be what I want, because I have no idea how many messages I received after that conversation. I noticed that when there are no new unread articles in a group, entering that group does show by default the old read articles, so I was hoping that there would be a way to ask Gnus to show them as well even when there are new unread messages. Perhaps I still need to learn the Gnus way? Thanks, Ángel de Vicente ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to display read articles?
Hi, Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org writes: ,[ (info (gnus)nnir) ] | This section describes how to use `nnir' to search for articles within | gnus. ` I have Gnus 5.13 and the documentation for nnir is still empty. == 2.18.1 nnir --- FIXME: As a first step, convert the commentary of `nnir' to texi. === Can you point me to a place where I can look this up? Thanks, Ángel de Vicente ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to display read articles?
Angel de Vicente ang...@iac.es writes: I noticed that when there are no new unread articles in a group, entering that group does show by default the old read articles, so I was hoping that there would be a way to ask Gnus to show them as well even when there are new unread messages. Perhaps I still need to learn the Gnus way? I didn't realize my post went also to gnus.general, and the answer I was looking for was there / o in the summary buffer. I had looked in the limiting section of the manual, but with so many different commands it is easy to miss the one you are looking for. Thanks a lot. Gnus is looking more and more promising to me. Cheers, Ángel de Vicente ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to display read articles?
On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 09:41:17 +0100, Angel wrote: Today I want to take some action on that mail, but I would like to see the complete thread. Showing the last 100 messages might not be what I want, because I have no idea how many messages I received after that conversation. A T on the email might be a step on the way to getting what you want: A T runs the command gnus-summary-refer-thread, which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `gnus-sum.el'. It is bound to A T, menu-bar Threads Find all messages in thread, menu-bar Article Fetch current thread. (gnus-summary-refer-thread optional LIMIT) Fetch all articles in the current thread. Depending on how you archive your outgoing messages changing the variable gnus-refer-article-method might also be relevant. Best regards, Adam -- I pragmatically turn my whims into principles! Adam Sjøgren a...@koldfront.dk ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to display read articles?
Angel de Vicente ang...@iac.es writes: Hi Angel, ,[ (info (gnus)nnir) ] | This section describes how to use `nnir' to search for articles within | gnus. ` I have Gnus 5.13 and the documentation for nnir is still empty. That's the version that comes with emacs 23, right? I think the latest nnir improvements and docs are currently only in the Gnus git version. Maybe you want to try running the bleeding edge version which is usually rock solid. Bye, Tassilo ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to display read articles?
Hi, Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org writes: I'd tick them (! on the message in summary). Ticked messages are always visible. Today I want to take some action on that mail, but I would like to see the complete thread. When point is on that message, hit `A T' to gather the complete thread. A T is great, thanks. Ticking them is not an option, since I don't know in advance which thread I would like to revisit in the future... Cheers, Ángel ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to display read articles?
Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org writes: When point is on that message, hit `A T' to gather the complete thread. i've found that i don't always get back the entire thread. is there a way to do that other than go to gmane to find it? A T gets back the thread (i guess as long as it is on the server?) A R seems to get all my email messages back in a thread. A ^ gets back the parent of a particular article. it would be good though to be able to get an entire thread back just from being on any article in it. perhaps, i'm not doing something right. -- in friendship, prad ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
How to display read articles?
Hi, I just decided to switch to Gnus for my news/mail experience, and I'm learning how to do different things with it. One thing that I have not managed to do (forgive me, it's pretty late here) is to view read articles in the summary buffer. I mean: after reading some articles, I exit the summary buffer, then later on I enter the group again, and the read articles are gone. I know that they are not deleted, and I've trying to find the option to let me see all the messages in a group (regardless of whether they had been read or not), but could not find it in the documentation. I'm sure it is somewhere in there, but the number of available options in Gnus is just overwhelming Thanks, Ángel de Vicente ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: How to display read articles?
On Wed, Jul 06 2011,Angel de Vicente Angel de Vicente wrote: [snipped 7 lines] I mean: after reading some articles, I exit the summary buffer, then later on I enter the group again, and the read articles are gone. I know that they are not deleted, and I've trying to find the option to let me see all the messages in a group (regardless of whether they had been read or not), but could not find it in the documentation. I'm sure it is somewhere in there, but the number of available options in Gnus is just overwhelming Go to the Group listing and hit G P to go to Group Parameters and add the following ((display . 100)) and then C-c C-c. This will show the last 100 articles and you can change it to any number you choose to. [snipped 10 lines] sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
