Re: RSS feeds
On 2014-07-06 21:09, Steven Arntson ste...@stevenarntson.com writes: I do have a more general question about the functionality of gwene. Not sure if this is the right place for the question, but ... There's an author at our weekly paper here I'd like to follow. When I try to input his feed into gwene, I get this result: A feed with this internal ID (http://www.thestranger.com) is already subscribed as gwene.com.thestranger.[...] This is because someone has already entered the rss for one of the other authors at the same paper. Any way for me to get the feed for my author into gwene? You can try asking about this on gmane.discuss. I recently had a similar issue (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/16223) and the reply was that I had to contact the feed authors to make sure they used a different link tag in their feeds. Alan -- OpenPGP Key ID : 040D0A3B4ED2E5C7 pgpxgTBHbCp79.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: RSS feeds
Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: On 2014-07-06 21:09, Steven Arntson ste...@stevenarntson.com writes: I do have a more general question about the functionality of gwene. Not sure if this is the right place for the question, but ... There's an author at our weekly paper here I'd like to follow. When I try to input his feed into gwene, I get this result: A feed with this internal ID (http://www.thestranger.com) is already subscribed as gwene.com.thestranger.[...] This is because someone has already entered the rss for one of the other authors at the same paper. Any way for me to get the feed for my author into gwene? You can try asking about this on gmane.discuss. I recently had a similar issue (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/16223) and the reply was that I had to contact the feed authors to make sure they used a different link tag in their feeds. Alan Interesting---sounds like the exact same issue. I've ended up for now just subscribing to the RSS feed directly with G-R in Gnus. I'd resisted this at first because Gnus is, for me, painfully slow with RSS feeds at times. However, I've gotten over it, and am using the wait time productively to brew coffee ... :) -steven ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: RSS feeds
clu scon...@gmail.com writes: So I enjoy reading USENET and some emails using emacs/gnus on my Macbook Air. This may be a dumb question, but I also enjoy reading RSS feeds using a GUI app I have. I was wondering/hoping there was a way to subscribe and read RSS feeds using emacs/gnus? Or some other tool in emacs? I use rss2email + procmail + dovecot + gnus Thanks in advance. -- clu -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: RSS feeds
clu scon...@gmail.com writes: On Saturday, July 5, 2014 10:26:57 AM UTC-7, akb427 wrote: Yep, Gnus has a backend called nnrss. Here's the relevant man page to get you started: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/RSS.html Simple G R then enter the feed, and bam, there it is. It just worked. I had no idea; thanks! This newsgroup is gold. That's handy for me too. I don't suppose there is a way to import feeds from thunderbird? ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: RSS feeds
David Hume david.h...@example.com writes: That's handy for me too. I don't suppose there is a way to import feeds from thunderbird? There is nnrss-opml-import function available. Sincerely, Gour -- Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: RSS feeds
On Sat, Jul 05 2014,Steven Arntson wrote: [snipped 14 lines] Gwene seems like it's been down for a couple of days. Anyone else had any trouble reaching it? One of those is-it-down.com websites told me it wasn't just me. works for me... sivaram -- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: RSS feeds
Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Jul 05 2014,Steven Arntson wrote: [snipped 14 lines] Gwene seems like it's been down for a couple of days. Anyone else had any trouble reaching it? One of those is-it-down.com websites told me it wasn't just me. works for me... sivaram -- I do have a more general question about the functionality of gwene. Not sure if this is the right place for the question, but ... There's an author at our weekly paper here I'd like to follow. When I try to input his feed into gwene, I get this result: A feed with this internal ID (http://www.thestranger.com) is already subscribed as gwene.com.thestranger.[...] This is because someone has already entered the rss for one of the other authors at the same paper. Any way for me to get the feed for my author into gwene? Thank you! steven ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: RSS feeds
Yep, Gnus has a backend called nnrss. Here's the relevant man page to get you started: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/RSS.html ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
RSS feeds
So I enjoy reading USENET and some emails using emacs/gnus on my Macbook Air. This may be a dumb question, but I also enjoy reading RSS feeds using a GUI app I have. I was wondering/hoping there was a way to subscribe and read RSS feeds using emacs/gnus? Or some other tool in emacs? Thanks in advance. -- clu ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: RSS feeds
clu scon...@gmail.com writes: So I enjoy reading USENET and some emails using emacs/gnus on my Macbook Air. This may be a dumb question, but I also enjoy reading RSS feeds using a GUI app I have. I was wondering/hoping there was a way to subscribe and read RSS feeds using emacs/gnus? Or some other tool in emacs? One way is to access the RSS to nntp gateway on news.gwene.org. Best regards, Adam -- Bara russin, ingen kakaAdam Sjøgren a...@koldfront.dk ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: RSS feeds
clu scon...@gmail.com writes: So I enjoy reading USENET and some emails using emacs/gnus on my Macbook Air. This may be a dumb question, but I also enjoy reading RSS feeds using a GUI app I have. I was wondering/hoping there was a way to subscribe and read RSS feeds using emacs/gnus? Or some other tool in emacs? http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusRss I prefer using Gwene -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgpRsCbNUR6mb.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: RSS feeds
Kevin Brubeck Unhammer unham...@fsfe.org writes: clu scon...@gmail.com writes: So I enjoy reading USENET and some emails using emacs/gnus on my Macbook Air. This may be a dumb question, but I also enjoy reading RSS feeds using a GUI app I have. I was wondering/hoping there was a way to subscribe and read RSS feeds using emacs/gnus? Or some other tool in emacs? http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusRss I prefer using Gwene Gwene seems like it's been down for a couple of days. Anyone else had any trouble reaching it? One of those is-it-down.com websites told me it wasn't just me. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: RSS feeds
On Saturday, July 5, 2014 10:26:57 AM UTC-7, akb427 wrote: Yep, Gnus has a backend called nnrss. Here's the relevant man page to get you started: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/RSS.html Simple G R then enter the feed, and bam, there it is. It just worked. I had no idea; thanks! This newsgroup is gold. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Recognizing repeats in RSS feeds
Desmond Rivet desmond_n...@videotron.ca writes: Thanks for the reply. However, I'm somewhat confused (not by your directions, but rather by what I'm seeing) Errr...I think I found the problem. I was doing this: (setq nnrss-ignore-article-field '(slash:comments slash:hit_parade)) Note the missing 's'. It should be this: (setq nnrss-ignore-article-fields '(slash:comments slash:hit_parade)) I am very embarassed. Sorry for wasting everyone's time. Things appear to be working better now :) -- Desmond Rivet Pain is weakness leaving the body. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Recognizing repeats in RSS feeds
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:22:16 -0500 Desmond Rivet desmond_n...@videotron.ca wrote: DR Note the presence of slash:comments and slash:hit_parade. Am I to DR understand that the slash:comments and slash:hit_parade fields are still DR contributing to the hash? Adam answered, but I just wanted to explain the reasoning. I debated this, but decided to show the article before removing those fields. They don't contribute to the hash, but could be important to the user, especially if the user wants to know if they can be re-enabled. On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:38:29 -0500 Desmond Rivet desmond_n...@videotron.ca wrote: DR Errr...I think I found the problem. I was doing this: DR (setq nnrss-ignore-article-field '(slash:comments slash:hit_parade)) DR Note the missing 's'. It should be this: DR (setq nnrss-ignore-article-fields '(slash:comments slash:hit_parade)) DR I am very embarassed. Sorry for wasting everyone's time. Things appear DR to be working better now :) I'm glad you found the issue. This is why I always recommend using Customize at first--you would have noticed there was no such variable. More importantly, things work now :) I know it's frustrating to have duplicate RSS entries. Ted ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Recognizing repeats in RSS feeds
Desmond Rivet desmond_n...@videotron.ca writes: Hi all, In addition to reading news and email, I use Gnus to keep track of various RSS feeds. For some of these feeds, certain articles will, over time, show up repeatedly in my summary list. I'm not sure why, but I assume it has something to do with updates to the article itself. Or maybe it happens when someone posts a new comment on the article. I don't know. FWIW, I recently switched from nnrss to nnshimbun (part of emacs-w3m) and this problem has essentially disappeared. I'm very happy with the switch. Here's a blog entry by the guy who recently added shimbun-use-local which allows you to fetch feeds (and other shimbuns) via an external script: http://www.randomsample.de/dru5/node/45 ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Recognizing repeats in RSS feeds
Ted Zlatanov t...@lifelogs.com writes: On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:12:37 -0500 Desmond Rivet desmond_n...@videotron.ca wrote: DR In addition to reading news and email, I use Gnus to keep track of DR various RSS feeds. DR For some of these feeds, certain articles will, over time, show up DR repeatedly in my summary list. I'm not sure why, but I assume it has DR something to do with updates to the article itself. Or maybe it happens DR when someone posts a new comment on the article. I don't know. ... DR Is there any way to score a repeated (updated) article down, so that DR they wouldn't show up in my group unless I asked? I have no idea where DR to even start with this; a simple push in the right direction would be DR appreciated. You want to ignore updates which only affect irrelevant fields. Here's how I do it: (setq nnrss-ignore-article-fields '(description slash:comments slash:hit_parade)) This works for me to eliminate duplicates completely; description changes very frequently on some sites for instance. nnrss finds unique articles by taking all their fields that are not ignored and hashing the content. To find out exactly what's happening, set gnus-verbose to 10 and refresh a nnrss group. You have to have a recent CVS Gnus to use this. I added it fairly recently. In *Messages* you'll see a full dump of the RSS segment that describes each article, and from that you can easily figure out what's causing duplicates. For example, here's one entry from the Dilbert Blog: nnrss: Making hash index of (item nil (title nil From Blog to Reality: Three Interesting Things) (link nil http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/from_blog_to_reality_three_things/;) (description nil ...cut because it's too much text...) (pubDate nil Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:00:01 PST) (guid ((isPermaLink . false)) http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/203/;) ) So the fields here are guid, pubDate, title, link, and description. If you need more help, tell us what feeds specifically are causing the problem and I can take a look. Thanks for the reply. However, I'm somewhat confused (not by your directions, but rather by what I'm seeing) So, I've started examining my RSS feeds. I'll use Slashdot as an example since alot of people read it. What I did was the following : 1. made a backup of the directory that stores my downloaded rss feeds. 2. waited until my Slashdot group was updated and I got a repeated item. 3. compared a selected item from the saved backup Slashdot rss file to a selected item from the current Slashdot rss file. If I understand how this works, there should be some sort of textual difference between the old item and the new, yes? (this is all very low tech, bear with me) So, I picked a item at random from the current rss file, pasted the xml fragment into a buffer, did the same with the saved rss file, and did a diff. I get the following: 11,12c11,12 slash:comments770/slash:comments slash:hit_parade770,762,595,490,138,86,71/slash:hit_parade --- slash:comments757/slash:comments slash:hit_parade757,749,587,482,133,83,69/slash:hit_parade So far, so good. This tells me that the slash:comments and slash:hit_parade fields are the culprits, right? So I do this in my .gnus.el: (setq nnrss-ignore-article-fields '(slash:comments slash:hit_parade)) And restart emacs. However, I *still* get spurious updates of the same article in Slashdot. So I take your advice and do this: (setq gnus-verbose 10) And hit M-g in Slashdot. Picking another article at random, I see this: nnrss: Making hash index of (item ((rdf:about . http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/20/1930252from=rss;)) (title nil Largest Data Breach Disclosed During Inauguration) (link nil http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/iHBmFGKE504/article.pl;) (description nil rmogull writes \Brian Krebs over at snip) (dc:creator nil kdawson) (dc:date nil 2009-01-20T19:44:00+00:00) (dc:subject nil security) (slash:department nil debit-cards-at-risk) (slash:section nil it) (slash:comments nil 121) (slash:hit_parade nil 121,117,99,80,24,16,13) (feedburner:origLink nil http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F20%2F1930252from=rss;)) Note the presence of slash:comments and slash:hit_parade. Am I to understand that the slash:comments and slash:hit_parade fields are still contributing to the hash? I should mention I'm using GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1. Thanks in advance for any insight! -- Desmond Rivet Pain is weakness leaving the body. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Recognizing repeats in RSS feeds
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:22:16 -0500, Desmond wrote: Note the presence of slash:comments and slash:hit_parade. Am I to understand that the slash:comments and slash:hit_parade fields are still contributing to the hash? What is shown is all fields, before the ignored fields are removed; see: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67806/ Best regards, -- Remember, Robert, in life anything can happen. Adam Sjøgren a...@koldfront.dk ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Recognizing repeats in RSS feeds
Hi all, In addition to reading news and email, I use Gnus to keep track of various RSS feeds. For some of these feeds, certain articles will, over time, show up repeatedly in my summary list. I'm not sure why, but I assume it has something to do with updates to the article itself. Or maybe it happens when someone posts a new comment on the article. I don't know. I have threading enabled on these RSS groups, so the repeated articles at least get put under one thread, which is good. However, they still show up as new articles in my group. I have to go in the group and verify that the article is a repeat. It's a bit of a pain. Is there any way to score a repeated (updated) article down, so that they wouldn't show up in my group unless I asked? I have no idea where to even start with this; a simple push in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Desmond Rivet Pain is weakness leaving the body. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Recognizing repeats in RSS feeds
Desmond Rivet desmond_n...@videotron.ca writes: For some of these feeds, certain articles will, over time, show up repeatedly in my summary list. I'm not sure why, but I assume it has something to do with updates to the article itself. Or maybe it happens when someone posts a new comment on the article. I don't know. I'm not sure it is any of these, but it could be. It happens to me on _many_ feeds. Is there any way to score a repeated (updated) article down, so that they wouldn't show up in my group unless I asked? I have no idea where to even start with this; a simple push in the right direction would be appreciated. What I did was to change my reading habit in these groups a bit. Instead of just letting the article be marked as read I kill the article. In my SCORE file I have it set to drop the score whenever I kill the article and have mark-and-expunge set to -1. There might be a better or cleaner way to do this but it works. rdc -- Robert D. Crawford rd...@comcast.net ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Recognizing repeats in RSS feeds
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:12:37 -0500 Desmond Rivet desmond_n...@videotron.ca wrote: DR In addition to reading news and email, I use Gnus to keep track of DR various RSS feeds. DR For some of these feeds, certain articles will, over time, show up DR repeatedly in my summary list. I'm not sure why, but I assume it has DR something to do with updates to the article itself. Or maybe it happens DR when someone posts a new comment on the article. I don't know. ... DR Is there any way to score a repeated (updated) article down, so that DR they wouldn't show up in my group unless I asked? I have no idea where DR to even start with this; a simple push in the right direction would be DR appreciated. You want to ignore updates which only affect irrelevant fields. Here's how I do it: (setq nnrss-ignore-article-fields '(description slash:comments slash:hit_parade)) This works for me to eliminate duplicates completely; description changes very frequently on some sites for instance. nnrss finds unique articles by taking all their fields that are not ignored and hashing the content. To find out exactly what's happening, set gnus-verbose to 10 and refresh a nnrss group. You have to have a recent CVS Gnus to use this. I added it fairly recently. In *Messages* you'll see a full dump of the RSS segment that describes each article, and from that you can easily figure out what's causing duplicates. For example, here's one entry from the Dilbert Blog: nnrss: Making hash index of (item nil (title nil From Blog to Reality: Three Interesting Things) (link nil http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/from_blog_to_reality_three_things/;) (description nil ...cut because it's too much text...) (pubDate nil Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:00:01 PST) (guid ((isPermaLink . false)) http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/203/;) ) So the fields here are guid, pubDate, title, link, and description. If you need more help, tell us what feeds specifically are causing the problem and I can take a look. Ted ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: problems with rss feeds
David == David Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi David, David I don't have w3 installed and no problem reading the xkcd rss David feed. What is w3 used for anyway? I use w3m to display the David articles, I think the xml parsing happens with the xml parser David that comes with emacs. I'm not using w3, but w3m, but your post shed some light... Google found the following post: http://www.lshift.net/blog/2005/07/15/rss-via-gnus which says that it is required to set 'mm-url-use-external' to t. I already had that, but disabled 'mm-url-program' which was set to 'w3m'. Then I was able to import all the problematic feeds. Now I'm again using 'internal' url program and, so far, everything is fine, Gnus is washing my rss feeds so I can see comic's pics... Still, I believe there is some problem in Gnus, based on the above post. Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D pgpAUCwycJsF1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: problems with rss feeds
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:46:14 +0200 Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gour == Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gour Any idea what's wrong? Now I see there is some problem with w3: nnrss: http://www.xkcd.com/rss.xml: Not valid XML (error XML: (Well-Formed) Couldn't parse tag: [\374\334Rr\271)\367 /) and w3-parse doesn't work (void-function w3-parse-buffer) XML-RPC is not available... not checking Syndic8. gnus-group-make-rss-group: No feeds found for http://www.xkcd.com/rss.xml Any idea? (i'm using CVS version of w3m-cvs) I don't have w3 installed and no problem reading the xkcd rss feed. What is w3 used for anyway? I use w3m to display the articles, I think the xml parsing happens with the xml parser that comes with emacs. David ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: problems with rss feeds
Allan == Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allan The XML syntax may be correct but the feed validator suggests a Allan minor error with the feed. Heh, very picky. xkcd is quite popular feed and I never heard people have problem reading it. Allan I use nntp//rss to read newsfeeds inside gnus. It works fine as Allan my primary news server. http://www.methodize.org/nntprss/ I tried 0.5beta1 and it works. The only complain is that I do not like java apps. Will try to see if there is some alternative available... Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D pgpX0cgwiNVW8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: problems with rss feeds
Gour == Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gour Any idea what's wrong? Now I see there is some problem with w3: nnrss: http://www.xkcd.com/rss.xml: Not valid XML (error XML: (Well-Formed) Couldn't parse tag: [\374\334Rr\271)\367 /) and w3-parse doesn't work (void-function w3-parse-buffer) XML-RPC is not available... not checking Syndic8. gnus-group-make-rss-group: No feeds found for http://www.xkcd.com/rss.xml Any idea? (i'm using CVS version of w3m-cvs) -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D pgpYtUjMgKpYT.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Importing RSS-feeds in OPML format to Gnus?
I already found at least these WWW-pages telling about using Gnus as RSS-reader: http://www.gnus.org/manual/gnus_193.html http://my.gnus.org/node/108 http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/GnusRss http://my.gnus.org/node/48 http://polydistortion.net/monkey/archives/2002/07/04/000835.html Well, most modern RSS-readers can import and export their list of RSS-feeds in a format called OPML. How that can be done in Gnus? I have collected so many feeds under Sage (of Mozilla Firefox) and AmphetaDesk that it would be real pain in the ass to add them all manually to Gnus. They both can import and export OPML. Here is information about that OPML: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPML See also this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OML -- Juhapekka naula Tolvanen * http colon slash slash iki dot fi slash juhtolv Katkeemaan ei sitä mitenkään saa. Turhempaa ei oo olemassakaan. Huomaa vaan kun joku sanoo jotain sellaista, mitä kuulla haluaa. Ei haittaa onko edes tottakaan. Oikeuttaa kalleintansa tuhlaamaan. Apulanta ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
