Re: Changing charset for posting news
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ted Zlatanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Hit `G c' on the group that you want to customize. Set the preferred >> charset to iso-8859-1. Save. That should do it. The Gnus manual >> should have more information on this - I don't use it myself, so the >> manual is the authoritative source. > > Strange: I have tried this, having commented out in .gnus the lines > suggested by Aidan, and it doesn't work! Despite having specified > iso-8859-1, as you suggest, messages I send to the fr.test group still > are sent as UTF-8 and quoted printable. That's strange. I wonder if it's a bug or just a feature that was never implemented. Does anyone know? If not, I'll look into it when I get a chance. Ted == Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News== http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups = East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption = ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Changing charset for posting news
Ar an dara lá déag de mí Iúil, scríobh David Sumbler: > > Hit `G c' on the group that you want to customize. Set the preferred > > charset to iso-8859-1. Save. That should do it. The Gnus manual > > should have more information on this - I don't use it myself, so the > > manual is the authoritative source. > > Strange: I have tried this, having commented out in .gnus the lines > suggested by Aidan, and it doesn't work! Despite having specified > iso-8859-1, as you suggest, messages I send to the fr.test group still > are sent as UTF-8 and quoted printable. That’s a bug that some changes I made tickled, according to this mail: http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200505/msg00121.html But I’ve looked into this some more, and, well, the design of that code is hugely broken--loads of programming using and endorsing underdocumented dynamic binding, crazy return values--and I haven’t seen an example where setting mm-coding-system-priorities appropriately is broken. I’ll put together a patch removing support for newsgroup-specific character sets if this sounds reasonable. If not, I’ll look into adding support for binding message-posting-charset around calls to mm-find-charset-region, which should re-add support for the charset-per-newsgroup approach. -- Russian has no phoneme that corresponds directly to Germanic /h/. As a result, for a not-insignificant number of people, the Second World War involved the Soviet Union defeating Адольф Гитлер, “Adolf Gitler.” ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Changing charset for posting news
Ted Zlatanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Although it has not caused a problem until recently, my use of UTF-8 >> and "quoted printable" has caused problems in a newsgroup which I >> recently started using. Basically, I have been told in no uncertain >> terms to avoid them. >> >> However, I am unclear how to change this, although I have read section >> 3.19 of the Gnus Manual. >> >> How do I ensure that, when posting news, my messages are sent in >> ISO-8859-1, and avoid "quoted printable"? > > You can test this on a private group - no need to send test messages > to the 'troubled' newsgroup (UTF-8 is here to stay :) > > Hit `G c' on the group that you want to customize. Set the preferred > charset to iso-8859-1. Save. That should do it. The Gnus manual > should have more information on this - I don't use it myself, so the > manual is the authoritative source. Strange: I have tried this, having commented out in .gnus the lines suggested by Aidan, and it doesn't work! Despite having specified iso-8859-1, as you suggest, messages I send to the fr.test group still are sent as UTF-8 and quoted printable. David -- David Sumbler Please reply with a followup to the newsgroup. However, if you _really_ want to send me an e-mail, replace "nospam" in my address with "aeolia". ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Changing charset for posting news
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Although it has not caused a problem until recently, my use of UTF-8 > and "quoted printable" has caused problems in a newsgroup which I > recently started using. Basically, I have been told in no uncertain > terms to avoid them. > > However, I am unclear how to change this, although I have read section > 3.19 of the Gnus Manual. > > How do I ensure that, when posting news, my messages are sent in > ISO-8859-1, and avoid "quoted printable"? You can test this on a private group - no need to send test messages to the 'troubled' newsgroup (UTF-8 is here to stay :) Hit `G c' on the group that you want to customize. Set the preferred charset to iso-8859-1. Save. That should do it. The Gnus manual should have more information on this - I don't use it myself, so the manual is the authoritative source. The advice you were given to use iso-8859-1 globally will work, but it's not necessary when you can override the posting charset only for a specific group. Ted == Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News== http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups = East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption = ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Changing charset for posting news
Aidan Kehoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ar an t-aonú lá déag de mí Iúil, scríobh David Sumbler: > > > [...] How do I ensure that, when posting news, my messages are sent in > > ISO-8859-1, and avoid "quoted printable"? > > In the general case, you can’t do this without losing data. If you write > exclusively English, this should work, though it hasn’t been tested; > > (setq mm-coding-system-priorities '(iso-8859-1)) > (add-to-list 'mm-body-charset-encoding-alist > '(iso-8859-1 . 8bit)) Thanks - I've added that to my .gnus file, and it seems to work. I write in English and, sometimes, French, so this is fine. David -- David Sumbler Please reply with a followup to the newsgroup. However, if you _really_ want to send me an e-mail, replace "nospam" in my address with "aeolia". ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Changing charset for posting news
David Sumbler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Although it has not caused a problem until recently, my use of UTF-8 > and "quoted printable" has caused problems in a newsgroup which I > recently started using. Basically, I have been told in no uncertain > terms to avoid them. > > However, I am unclear how to change this, although I have read section > 3.19 of the Gnus Manual. > > How do I ensure that, when posting news, my messages are sent in > ISO-8859-1, and avoid "quoted printable"? I should perhaps have added that the problem arises when using French characters, e.g. « à é ç ». When I write using just standard English characters, Gnus/Emacs sends it as "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii" David -- David Sumbler Please reply with a followup to the newsgroup. However, if you _really_ want to send me an e-mail, replace "nospam" in my address with "aeolia". ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Changing charset for posting news
Ar an t-aonú lá déag de mí Iúil, scríobh David Sumbler: > [...] How do I ensure that, when posting news, my messages are sent in > ISO-8859-1, and avoid "quoted printable"? In the general case, you can’t do this without losing data. If you write exclusively English, this should work, though it hasn’t been tested; (setq mm-coding-system-priorities '(iso-8859-1)) (add-to-list 'mm-body-charset-encoding-alist '(iso-8859-1 . 8bit)) -- Russian has no phoneme that corresponds directly to Germanic /h/. As a result, for a not-insignificant number of people, the Second World War involved the Soviet Union defeating Адольф Гитлер, “Adolf Gitler.” ___ Info-gnus-english mailing list Info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english