Re: [Inkscape-docs] About SVG page

2015-03-09 Thread Maren Hachmann

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Hi Brynn,

 I do still want to add the Learn SVG website,
 and the tutorials which are on that same domain (although somehow not
 linked to each other), if that's ok, as well as the book. 

- - The website and book are in now, and I've gotten feedback from Tav
and adapted the page, so you can now add the still missing tutorials ;)

 
 But I'll be happy to start a page on animation topics.  It will be
 fun and informative  :-)  Should it be in Learn sub-menu, or Develop?
 I would think Learn, but I often don't see the big picture.

- - To me, Learn also makes more sense, as it's geared towards a more
general audience - not only Inkscape developers want to make their
pictures move ;)

Regards,
 Maren


 
 -- From: Maren
 Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015
 5:33 PM To: Brynn br...@frii.com;
 inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: About SVG page


 Hi Brynn,

 thank you for your feedback!

 ad 1) I was able to shorten it to a bit less than 3 screen heights.
 The expanding box would be nice, but we don't have something like
 that available currently, I believe. Maybe something for a website
 feature request?

 ad 3) No ETA yet. I still need feedback and keywords from Tav. This
 shouldn't prevent you from starting with the animation page, though.
 I can take care of the rest of this page ('About SVG'), if you would
 like to proceed.

 The link selection you added to the page looks like a really good
 selection, I only added the SVG 2.0 draft to the link list, and
 renamed two items. Thank you!

 Regards, Maren

 Am 07.03.2015 um 02:34 schrieb Brynn:
 Hi again, This is a reply to the last msg in the Where does
 this belong
 thread.  But I think that topic has ended, and has now become more
 about the new page.  I hope it's ok to start a new thread like this.

 1.I was just looking at the new About SVG page that
 Maren
 started, which looks awesome!  The one thing that I wonder about is
 the section of code in the middle.  It's approx 5.5 pages long, on
 my screen.  Would it be possible to make the text smaller (say by 2
 to 4 pts), so that it takes up less space?  Or show less of the code?
 Or maybe put it on another page, and link to it?  Or have a very
 small block, say 100 or 200 pixels square, and when you either click,
 or mouseover, it expands down?
 I completely understand the purpose of showing it, and it's a
 good thing.  But after 2 or 3 page-downs, I wonder if visitors will
 think that's the end of the page, and move on?  Plus, I imagine the
 How does Inkscape use SVG section could be fairly long, as well.

 2.Since we can't make the links yet, I guess I'll just
 put the
 URL for each link, on the draft page.

 3.Now that we have this draft on staging, is there any
 idea
 when it will go up on live?  I ask, because I'm anxious to start a
 page for animation topics, but want to see this through first.

 4.Does anyone know who might be responsible for the
 Learn SVG
 site, or at least who put it on the Books page?  It still just bugs
 me that various parts of that site aren't connected together (via
 link from its front page).  It's something that makes me think the
 site will succumb to bitrot sooner than later (maybe has already
 started) and makes me not want to use it.  But otherwise, it really
 is a nice site.

 Thanks, brynn


 -- From: Maren
 Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de Sent: Wednesday, March 04,
 2015 12:50 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] where does this belong?
 (advanced SVG
 coding)

 Hi everyone,

 I've started the 'About SVG' page for the 'Develop' submenu
 at http://staging.inkscape.org/en/develop/about-svg. There
 aren't any links in it yet, because of the plugin links not
 being transferable from staging to live. Text formatting
 isn't finished yet, either.

 The last section, where links to external pages will live, is
 your realm, Brynn :)

 For the next-to-last section, I would appreciate Tav's and
 every other developer's help for prompting me with some
 keywords, and probably people will also have additional
 remarks for the 'Why...' section.

 Improvement / wording / orthography suggestions welcome!

 Regards, Maren

 Am 04.03.2015 um 18:17 schrieb Maren Hachmann:

 Hi Brynn,

 Am 04.03.2015 um 00:52 schrieb Brynn:

 I did a little searching, but then I wanted to see the
 overview that you were going to write, to get some hints
 about some different search terms.   (I'm not very
 knowledgeable about this.)  So far, I've found a few
 tutorials (on writing SVG).  Although I agree that we
 probably want to limit the unofficial links, as much
 as possible. Martin replied to me privately (for some
 reason), saying he didn't think a new menu item is
 needed, and that he thinks the new page about SVG should
 go in Develop menu. It 

Re: [Inkscape-docs] About SVG page

2015-03-09 Thread Brynn
Hi again,
Hhmm...well now I'm having 2nd thoughts about adding those 
tutorials.   Can you look at them, and judge whether they are too 
out-of-date?  Or do you think they will be about like the book -- still 
useful?  It's all a bit over my head, especially the math and scripting.
These are the tutorials that share the same domain:
http://learnsvg.com/tutorials/tutorialBasics/
http://learnsvg.com/tutorials/tutorialMath/
http://learnsvg.com/tutorials/tutorialScripting/
It's too bad everything isn't all linked together, like you'd 
expect, then we'd only need to link to the front page.  But maybe there's a 
reason?

Thanks :-)
brynn

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From: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 2:56 PM
To: Brynn br...@frii.com; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: About SVG page


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 Hi Brynn,

 I do still want to add the Learn SVG website,
 and the tutorials which are on that same domain (although somehow not
 linked to each other), if that's ok, as well as the book.

 - - The website and book are in now, and I've gotten feedback from Tav
 and adapted the page, so you can now add the still missing tutorials ;)


 But I'll be happy to start a page on animation topics.  It will be
 fun and informative  :-)  Should it be in Learn sub-menu, or Develop?
 I would think Learn, but I often don't see the big picture.

 - - To me, Learn also makes more sense, as it's geared towards a more
 general audience - not only Inkscape developers want to make their
 pictures move ;)

 Regards,
 Maren



 -- From: Maren
 Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015
 5:33 PM To: Brynn br...@frii.com;
 inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: About SVG page


 Hi Brynn,

 thank you for your feedback!

 ad 1) I was able to shorten it to a bit less than 3 screen heights.
 The expanding box would be nice, but we don't have something like
 that available currently, I believe. Maybe something for a website
 feature request?

 ad 3) No ETA yet. I still need feedback and keywords from Tav. This
 shouldn't prevent you from starting with the animation page, though.
 I can take care of the rest of this page ('About SVG'), if you would
 like to proceed.

 The link selection you added to the page looks like a really good
 selection, I only added the SVG 2.0 draft to the link list, and
 renamed two items. Thank you!

 Regards, Maren

 Am 07.03.2015 um 02:34 schrieb Brynn:
 Hi again, This is a reply to the last msg in the Where does
 this belong
 thread.  But I think that topic has ended, and has now become more
 about the new page.  I hope it's ok to start a new thread like this.

 1.I was just looking at the new About SVG page that
 Maren
 started, which looks awesome!  The one thing that I wonder about is
 the section of code in the middle.  It's approx 5.5 pages long, on
 my screen.  Would it be possible to make the text smaller (say by 2
 to 4 pts), so that it takes up less space?  Or show less of the code?
 Or maybe put it on another page, and link to it?  Or have a very
 small block, say 100 or 200 pixels square, and when you either click,
 or mouseover, it expands down?
 I completely understand the purpose of showing it, and it's a
 good thing.  But after 2 or 3 page-downs, I wonder if visitors will
 think that's the end of the page, and move on?  Plus, I imagine the
 How does Inkscape use SVG section could be fairly long, as well.

 2.Since we can't make the links yet, I guess I'll just
 put the
 URL for each link, on the draft page.

 3.Now that we have this draft on staging, is there any
 idea
 when it will go up on live?  I ask, because I'm anxious to start a
 page for animation topics, but want to see this through first.

 4.Does anyone know who might be responsible for the
 Learn SVG
 site, or at least who put it on the Books page?  It still just bugs
 me that various parts of that site aren't connected together (via
 link from its front page).  It's something that makes me think the
 site will succumb to bitrot sooner than later (maybe has already
 started) and makes me not want to use it.  But otherwise, it really
 is a nice site.

 Thanks, brynn


 -- From: Maren
 Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de Sent: Wednesday, March 04,
 2015 12:50 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] where does this belong?
 (advanced SVG
 coding)

 Hi everyone,

 I've started the 'About SVG' page for the 'Develop' submenu
 at http://staging.inkscape.org/en/develop/about-svg. There
 aren't any links in it yet, because of the plugin links not
 being transferable from staging to live. Text formatting
 isn't finished yet, either.

 The last section, where links to external pages will live, is
 your realm, Brynn :)

 For the