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Hi Brynn,
> I do still want to add the Learn SVG website,
> and the tutorials which are on that same domain (although somehow not
> linked to each other), if that's ok, as well as the book.
- - The website and book are in now, and I've gotten feedback from Tav
and adapted the page, so you can now add the still missing tutorials ;)
>
> But I'll be happy to start a page on animation topics. It will be
> fun and informative :-) Should it be in Learn sub-menu, or Develop?
> I would think Learn, but I often don't see the "big picture".
- - To me, Learn also makes more sense, as it's geared towards a more
general audience - not only Inkscape developers want to make their
pictures move ;)
Regards,
Maren
>
> -------------------------------------------------- From: "Maren
> Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015
> 5:33 PM To: "Brynn" <br...@frii.com>;
> <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: About SVG page
>
>>
> Hi Brynn,
>
> thank you for your feedback!
>
> ad 1) I was able to shorten it to a bit less than 3 screen heights.
> The expanding box would be nice, but we don't have something like
> that available currently, I believe. Maybe something for a website
> feature request?
>
> ad 3) No ETA yet. I still need feedback and keywords from Tav. This
> shouldn't prevent you from starting with the animation page, though.
> I can take care of the rest of this page ('About SVG'), if you would
> like to proceed.
>
> The link selection you added to the page looks like a really good
> selection, I only added the SVG 2.0 draft to the link list, and
> renamed two items. Thank you!
>
> Regards, Maren
>
> Am 07.03.2015 um 02:34 schrieb Brynn:
>>>> Hi again, This is a reply to the last msg in the "Where does
>>>> this belong"
> thread. But I think that topic has ended, and has now become more
> about the new page. I hope it's ok to start a new thread like this.
>>>>
>>>> 1. I was just looking at the new About SVG page that
>>>> Maren
> started, which looks awesome! The one thing that I wonder about is
> the section of code in the middle. It's approx 5.5 pages long, on
> my screen. Would it be possible to make the text smaller (say by 2
> to 4 pts), so that it takes up less space? Or show less of the code?
> Or maybe put it on another page, and link to it? Or have a very
> small block, say 100 or 200 pixels square, and when you either click,
> or mouseover, it expands down?
>>>> I completely understand the purpose of showing it, and it's a
> good thing. But after 2 or 3 page-downs, I wonder if visitors will
> think that's the end of the page, and move on? Plus, I imagine the
> "How does Inkscape use SVG" section could be fairly long, as well.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Since we can't make the links yet, I guess I'll just
>>>> put the
> URL for each link, on the draft page.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Now that we have this draft on staging, is there any
>>>> idea
> when it will go up on live? I ask, because I'm anxious to start a
> page for animation topics, but want to see this through first.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Does anyone know who might be responsible for the
>>>> Learn SVG
> site, or at least who put it on the Books page? It still just bugs
> me that various parts of that site aren't connected together (via
> link from its front page). It's something that makes me think the
> site will succumb to bitrot sooner than later (maybe has already
> started) and makes me not want to use it. But otherwise, it really
> is a nice site.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, brynn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------- From: "Maren
>>>> Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de> Sent: Wednesday, March 04,
>>>> 2015 12:50 PM To: <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] where does this belong?
>>>> ("advanced" SVG
> coding)
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've started the 'About SVG' page for the 'Develop' submenu
>>>>> at http://staging.inkscape.org/en/develop/about-svg. There
>>>>> aren't any links in it yet, because of the plugin links not
>>>>> being transferable from staging to live. Text formatting
>>>>> isn't finished yet, either.
>>>>>
>>>>> The last section, where links to external pages will live, is
>>>>> your realm, Brynn :)
>>>>>
>>>>> For the next-to-last section, I would appreciate Tav's and
>>>>> every other developer's help for prompting me with some
>>>>> keywords, and probably people will also have additional
>>>>> remarks for the 'Why...' section.
>>>>>
>>>>> Improvement / wording / orthography suggestions welcome!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Maren
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 04.03.2015 um 18:17 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Brynn,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 04.03.2015 um 00:52 schrieb Brynn:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did a little searching, but then I wanted to see the
>>>>>>> overview that you were going to write, to get some hints
>>>>>>> about some different search terms. (I'm not very
>>>>>>> knowledgeable about this.) So far, I've found a few
>>>>>>> tutorials (on writing SVG). Although I agree that we
>>>>>>> probably want to limit the "unofficial links", as much
>>>>>>> as possible. Martin replied to me privately (for some
>>>>>>> reason), saying he didn't think a new menu item is
>>>>>>> needed, and that he thinks the new page about SVG should
>>>>>>> go in Develop menu. It sounds like the page should have 2
>>>>>>> sections: How Inkscape Uses SVG2 and Learn SVG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Sounds good to me, and it sounds like we'll definitely
>>>>>> need some input from Tav for the specifics...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OH!! I found it. I don't know why in the world a
>>>>>>> website set up to accompany a book, doesn't have a link
>>>>>>> to the book *anywhere* on the site!! But here it is: --
>>>>>>> free PDF download:
>>>>>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/58271695/Learn-SVG --
>>>>>>> purchase:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/5485/Learn-SVG-The-Web-Graphics-Standard
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those should probably go on Books and Manuals page?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Congrats on finding it :) and thanks for not giving up
>>>>>> digging!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I think that link could be added back in there, with
>>>>>> one caveat: The text is from ~ 2003. The principles are
>>>>>> probably still the same for the majority of the contents,
>>>>>> the maths didn't change, and I believe backwards
>>>>>> compatibility is something which is taken seriously by
>>>>>> W3C, but many details and tipps and tricks mentioned in the
>>>>>> text will be outdated, and some new functionality must have
>>>>>> been built in in the meantime. There are some nice
>>>>>> nostalgic screenshots of Netscape - and in contrast to the
>>>>>> text, even IE now supports SVG... ;) So we'll need to add a
>>>>>> hint about the age of the text, and about the areas where
>>>>>> it is still valid, and where it is not. I can't really
>>>>>> judge this, unfortunately. Another question for Tav, I'm
>>>>>> afraid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Maren
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All best :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- From:
>>>>>>> "Maren Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de> Sent: Tuesday,
>>>>>>> March 03, 2015 9:33 AM To: <br...@inkscapecommunity.com>;
>>>>>>> "Inkscape-Docs" <inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] where does this belong?
>>>>>>> ("advanced" SVG coding)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Brynn,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> finally, I'm back and have some time to write something
>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm about to go offline for now. But I'll plan on
>>>>>>>>>> doing some
>>>>>>> searching, the
>>>>>>>>>> next time I'm back online, and I'll look for a new
>>>>>>>>>> page with intro
>>>>>>> text, if
>>>>>>>>>> you can get it started, Maren. And then Maren and
>>>>>>>>>> I can collaborate from there. Maybe during my
>>>>>>>>>> search I'll get some ideas about organizing the
>>>>>>>>>> page. It may end up being just a handful of links,
>>>>>>>>>> but....well, as we've said, at least it will be a
>>>>>>>>>> start.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you already have a list of links which should be
>>>>>>> included in the SVG page and/or the SVG animation page?
>>>>>>> And has there been any progress on where those pages
>>>>>>> should end up? It's also possible to move a page after it
>>>>>>> has been created, so if we don't know where to put it
>>>>>>> yet, it's not so problematic (Although it would help to
>>>>>>> know the intended audience of a text before writing
>>>>>>> it...) Just don't put it in the menu before it is
>>>>>>> finished (the little red/green sign at the end of the row
>>>>>>> in the pages list should be red), and don't link to it
>>>>>>> before we know where it will live.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> uh-oh.....could the site, the django part handle
>>>>>>>>>> some simple animation of SVG?....maybe you guys
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> have to set up that part of the page, since I don't
>>>>>>>>>> understand a lot of those django plugins?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - I think that should work just fine. It only depends on
>>>>>>> browser support, but not on the website. A js-based
>>>>>>> animation made with sozi can be viewed by clicking the
>>>>>>> 'view' button:
>>>>>>> http://staging.inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/19/ . I
>>>>>>> copied Tav's SMIL/CSS animations from his page
>>>>>>> http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/ANIMATION/ to check, as I
>>>>>>> didn't have any: a SMIL animation can be viewed directly,
>>>>>>> even in the gallery view; a CSS based animation can be
>>>>>>> viewed with the view button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards, Maren
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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