Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-translator] Dead links

[Brynn]

Ok, here's the rundown, if anyone is interested.

Removed because either the site is gone, or it's no longer about Inkscape or 
SVG or vector graphics:
-- baked babies
-- cube hoboes
-- 17 deg

For all the others, this page originally came from a wiki page, where anyone 
who wanted to join the mailing list, to ask for edit creds, could get them. 
So a large percentage of these were posted by the artist themselves.

For all the cases where the URL has changed, the artist has provided 
redirects, so that the content still shows up.  I never would have known the 
address had changed, if it hadn't been pointed out.   I'm kind of feeling 
like if the artist is caring enough, they can ask for the link to be 
updated.  But I'll change them, if that's what everyone wants.  Or anyone 
else edit, as well.

I don't know though.  Perhaps since the paradigm has kind of changed, to 
where "the website team" is doing the editing, there should be some 
mechanism for deciding which sites deserve to be there?

Maybe something like "If you'd like to see your site listed here, please 
contact" at the bottom.  Or maybe even at the top?  Although that might 
have to include "please notify us when the URL changes, so we can keep the 
page current".  Just a thought?

For the misspelling of "presents" - it's likely the artist misspelled it to 
begin with.  I honestly can't remember if I retyped, or simply copy/pasted 
(although if I had to guess, I would say I copied it, and just didn't notice 
the misspelling).  After perusing the site (which is not easy to navigate 
and I find very confusing), it appears the SVG content only appears in the 
archive.  Now he's apparently using videos to tell the story of his comic. 
Perhaps it's not even worth keeping, I'm not sure.  Or maybe should just 
link to the archive?

Anyway, that's the current situation.

brynn

PS - Maren, you can notify translators -- basically just 3 lines to delete.

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From: "Brynn" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 5:12 PM
To: "Inkscape-Docs" ; "Maren Hachmann" 

Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-translator] Dead links

> I've been trying to keep this page up to date, ever since I first created 
> it
> (from original wiki page) although it probably has been 6 months since my
> last update.  I'll fix them asap!
>
> Thanks,
> brynn
>
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> From: "Maren Hachmann" 
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 3:27 PM
> To: ; "Inkscape-Docs"
> 
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-translator] Dead links
>
>> Hi Sylvain,
>>
>> Am 28.03.2016 um 23:15 schrieb Sylvain Chiron:
>>> Some links have died in the « Around the Internet » list:
>>> * Baked Babies
>>> * cube hobo web comic
>>> I couldn't find them on the Internet either. Should we remove them?
>>>
>>> Also, ‘PixelPalaces pressents:’, shouldn't it be ‘PixelPalaces
>>> presents:’? (And it's a bit hard to find the comic sometimes.)
>>>
>>> Some sites listed on the same page have moved:
>>> * Modelshop (.com → .fr)
>>> * 17deg.com
>>> * Gatonegro deseño
>>> * Sune Donath
>>> The links should be updated, shouldn't they?
>>
>> - Thanks for checking :) Don't hesitate to fix these, Sylvain. If you
>> do, either tell us all exactly which changes you made, so other
>> languages can be updated by their respective translators, or, if you
>> have the time, you can also just correct / delete the entries in the
>> other languages (for links, this shouldn't pose any language problems).
>>
>>> Also, in this section:
>>> https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/testing/#inkscape-testers
>>> there are three links which lead nowhere. And the questions at the end
>>> are a bit weird.
>>> At the end of the introduction of the page, there was also a paragraph:
>>> ‘? Follow up’; I didn't understand what it meant and I removed it.
>>> This page is probably missing some finalization…
>>
>> - See https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web/+bug/1308611 and
>> https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/to-do-list/
>>
>> If you can find someone who's knowledgeable enough to update the page
>> and willing to do it, that would be great...
>>
>> For contents questions, please always include the docs mailing list, so
>> editors are kept in the loop, too.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Maren
>>
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Translate the manual

[Maren Hachmann]

Hi Brynn,

There have been several threads about this over the last few years.
Sylvain will need to use the search functionality of the archives (key
words: the mentioned names, and 'manual') if he wants to know more about
this.

Brynn, it's now possible to edit the open manual any time.
Just create an account here:
http://en.flossmanuals.net

and then you can edit this:
http://en.flossmanuals.net/inkscape/

Kind regards,
Maren


Am 29.03.2016 um 01:05 schrieb Brynn:
>> Also be sure to read up on this topic in the archives of this list to
>> understand the current status a little better (messages by Elisa de
>> Castro Guerra and jazzynico).
> 
> Which topic?
> 
> As I've indicated in earlier discussions, I'd be happy to contribute to any 
> effort in helping to write an open manual :-)
> 
> All best,
> brynn

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> From: "Maren Hachmann" 
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 4:03 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Translate the manual
> 
>> Dear Sylvain,
>>
>> I think for this, you would have to contact Tavmjong Bah directly, as is
>> stated here: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/
>>
>> For your decision, you need to know that the book is under a proprietary
>> licence, and hasn't been updated for Inkscape 0.91.
>>
>> If you're looking for a collaborative project, there is also this manual:
>>
>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/inkscape/
>>
>> which is licenced freely, but is also outdated, unfortunately (last
>> edited in 2010, I think).
>>
>> This manual can be improved and translated freely. The website offering
>> to do this has only recently been updated.
>>
>> It seems it's working again now (I tried some months before, but
>> couldn't get an account, yesterday it worked).
>>
>> Also be sure to read up on this topic in the archives of this list to
>> understand the current status a little better (messages by Elisa de
>> Castro Guerra and jazzynico).
>>
>> There's also a French introductory book here:
>> http://fr.flossmanuals.net/initiation-inkscape/_info/
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Maren
>>
>> Am 28.03.2016 um 21:47 schrieb Sylvain Chiron:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I'd like to know how I could translate the most recent version of the
>>> manual /Inkscape: Guide to a Vector Drawing Program/ into French.
>>> I looked at this page:
>>> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/DocumentationTranslation#User_Manual
>>> Do I need an account on Sourceforge to access the XML document?
>>> I tried to checkout the URL with Subversion and it didn't work.
>>>
>>> Also, the current French translation:
>>> http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html_fr/index.html
>>> indicates that the last release of the manual is 0.15 (and I think
>>> that's bad). You should replace this number with 0.16.
>>>
>>> Lastly, I hope it will be possible to reuse the previous translation
>>> easily (otherwise, I probably won't take the time to make a nice
>>> translation).
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>> --
>>> Sylvain Chiron
>>>
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-translator] Dead links

[Brynn]

I've been trying to keep this page up to date, ever since I first created it 
(from original wiki page) although it probably has been 6 months since my 
last update.  I'll fix them asap!

Thanks,
brynn

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From: "Maren Hachmann" 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 3:27 PM
To: ; "Inkscape-Docs" 

Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-translator] Dead links

> Hi Sylvain,
>
> Am 28.03.2016 um 23:15 schrieb Sylvain Chiron:
>> Some links have died in the « Around the Internet » list:
>> * Baked Babies
>> * cube hobo web comic
>> I couldn't find them on the Internet either. Should we remove them?
>>
>> Also, ‘PixelPalaces pressents:’, shouldn't it be ‘PixelPalaces
>> presents:’? (And it's a bit hard to find the comic sometimes.)
>>
>> Some sites listed on the same page have moved:
>> * Modelshop (.com → .fr)
>> * 17deg.com
>> * Gatonegro deseño
>> * Sune Donath
>> The links should be updated, shouldn't they?
>
> - Thanks for checking :) Don't hesitate to fix these, Sylvain. If you
> do, either tell us all exactly which changes you made, so other
> languages can be updated by their respective translators, or, if you
> have the time, you can also just correct / delete the entries in the
> other languages (for links, this shouldn't pose any language problems).
>
>> Also, in this section:
>> https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/testing/#inkscape-testers
>> there are three links which lead nowhere. And the questions at the end
>> are a bit weird.
>> At the end of the introduction of the page, there was also a paragraph:
>> ‘? Follow up’; I didn't understand what it meant and I removed it.
>> This page is probably missing some finalization…
>
> - See https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web/+bug/1308611 and
> https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/to-do-list/
>
> If you can find someone who's knowledgeable enough to update the page
> and willing to do it, that would be great...
>
> For contents questions, please always include the docs mailing list, so
> editors are kept in the loop, too.
>
> Kind regards,
> Maren
>
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-translator] Dead links

[Maren Hachmann]

Hi Sylvain,

Am 28.03.2016 um 23:15 schrieb Sylvain Chiron:
> Some links have died in the « Around the Internet » list:
> * Baked Babies
> * cube hobo web comic
> I couldn't find them on the Internet either. Should we remove them?
> 
> Also, ‘PixelPalaces pressents:’, shouldn't it be ‘PixelPalaces
> presents:’? (And it's a bit hard to find the comic sometimes.)
> 
> Some sites listed on the same page have moved:
> * Modelshop (.com → .fr)
> * 17deg.com
> * Gatonegro deseño
> * Sune Donath
> The links should be updated, shouldn't they?

- Thanks for checking :) Don't hesitate to fix these, Sylvain. If you
do, either tell us all exactly which changes you made, so other
languages can be updated by their respective translators, or, if you
have the time, you can also just correct / delete the entries in the
other languages (for links, this shouldn't pose any language problems).

> Also, in this section:
> https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/testing/#inkscape-testers
> there are three links which lead nowhere. And the questions at the end
> are a bit weird.
> At the end of the introduction of the page, there was also a paragraph:
> ‘? Follow up’; I didn't understand what it meant and I removed it.
> This page is probably missing some finalization…

- See https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web/+bug/1308611 and
https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/to-do-list/

If you can find someone who's knowledgeable enough to update the page
and willing to do it, that would be great...

For contents questions, please always include the docs mailing list, so
editors are kept in the loop, too.

Kind regards,
 Maren

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