[Inkscape-docs] vetting ("curating"?) tutorials on website
re-titled from "Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website" Sounds good to me. Well, thank you for your trust and confidence. This is the perfect size of project that can probably be finished while we're waiting for OSUOSL. I don't expect it will be very much larger than the suggestions I made earlier. (fyi, we already do have 55 tutorials! Although some are the Example files. But still that's not a small amount.) Just for video tutorials? Why not extend to all? Most things could apply to both. (such as making sure it's not outdated, read/watch all the way through, doesn't give incorrect info, possibly contacting author, e.g.) Also, "vet" or "curate"? I think it would be good to discuss the details on the list, because input from others can only make it better, imo. If something needs a specific response from you, we'll specifically ask, and otherwise, I'm sure you'll be reviewing the list as usual :-) Where should these guidelines be posted? For example, they could probably be brief enough to fit in the black space between the menu and the tutorials (on this page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/ starts with "A collection of video"). Although that space generally seems to introduce the page, rather than give instructions. Hhmm, well I guess the Extensions page does give instructions in the black area (ref: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=extension/) Or it could be a link in the upload form, like the CoC link.oh, I thought I saw there was a link there previously. Aaahh, I must be thinking of Comments. Well, it could be a link like that, in the upload form. Possibly so that it only shows when Tutorials category is selected? (Actually, I wonder why there's not a reference or link to the CoC on the upload form? Is just too much maybe?) Any other ideas about where to put this? Anyone else with ideas about guidelines, please chime in :-) I'm about to log off for awhile, but I'll put any suggestions that are posted together with the ones I mentioned before, sometime next week, and make a first draft. All best, brynn ps - Idea: Just like the extensions can identify which version it works with (if the uploader tags it), can the tutorials be tagged for which version was in use by the author, when the tutorial was made? -Original Message- From: Martin Owens Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 12:51 PM To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website On Sat, 2017-01-14 at 12:22 -0700, brynn wrote: > If it's as simple as making a "good" or "vetted" tag, and writing > guidelines, why not get started? Why not indeed. I trust you wholly with creating a simple set of guidelines, I think you made a good start in the previous email. You may wish to discuss, but I'm happy enough not to. The videos tutorials will be in two great categories: unvetted (all video tutorials added by anyone) and vetted (videos checked against your checklist). Getting a list of vetted videos is not critical, so we can be patient for your guidance and help sorting the content when the time is right. In the mean time, anyone is free to add tutorial links to the website. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
On Sat, 2017-01-14 at 12:22 -0700, brynn wrote: > If it's as simple as making a "good" or "vetted" tag, and writing > guidelines, why not get started? Why not indeed. I trust you wholly with creating a simple set of guidelines, I think you made a good start in the previous email. You may wish to discuss, but I'm happy enough not to. The videos tutorials will be in two great categories: unvetted (all video tutorials added by anyone) and vetted (videos checked against your checklist). Getting a list of vetted videos is not critical, so we can be patient for your guidance and help sorting the content when the time is right. In the mean time, anyone is free to add tutorial links to the website. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
Haha! > it will bear as much responsibility for tagging tutorials as 'good' or 'vetted' as there are volunteers to do the vetting. So when we have a tag for "good" or "vetted" should there be guidelines for using it? Because what one sees as good will not necessarily be what all consider good. I couldn't tell you how many not very good tutorials I've seen called "good". In Maren's reply, she said: > - The guidelines are in the community CoC. A video is just a resource like any other one. I disagree. The CoC is about personal conduct, not quality of content. Back to Martin said: > If there is no one (or no one that knows what to do yet) then there is no vetting. Well, I'm entirely willing to do that, although as I mentioned, I can't start on it yet. But if we had guidelines, then anyone else could start. And plus, even when I have time, all kinds of other people are still going to be able to upload links. > But I'd like to get a collection of tutorials built up before we drive it to perfection. Why? If it's as simple as making a "good" or "vetted" tag, and writing guidelines, why not get started? It shouldn't take any huge amount of effort to discuss and agree on a few simple guidelines. Of course, I don't know what it takes to create a tag, but it seems like it should be fairy easy (by someone who already knows how and has the proper access). Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Martin Owens Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 10:56 AM To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Maren Hachmann Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website On Fri, 2017-01-13 at 22:35 -0700, brynn wrote: > It seems to me like the Inkscape website should bear some > responsibility for providing quality content (even if it's not its > own content), especially regarding tutorials. And it will, it will bear as much responsibility for tagging tutorials as 'good' or 'vetted' as there are volunteers to do the vetting. If there is no one (or no one that knows what to do yet) then there is no vetting. But that does not mean we do not have a process in mind for tagging and marking tutorials as 'good' in the future. But I'd like to get a collection of tutorials built up before we drive it to perfection. Martin, -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
On Fri, 2017-01-13 at 22:35 -0700, brynn wrote: > It seems to me like the Inkscape website should bear some > responsibility for providing quality content (even if it's not its > own content), especially regarding tutorials. And it will, it will bear as much responsibility for tagging tutorials as 'good' or 'vetted' as there are volunteers to do the vetting. If there is no one (or no one that knows what to do yet) then there is no vetting. But that does not mean we do not have a process in mind for tagging and marking tutorials as 'good' in the future. But I'd like to get a collection of tutorials built up before we drive it to perfection. Martin, -- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today. http://sdm.link/xeonphi ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
