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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Fwd: 3/27, IRC help for applying to Season of the Docs

2019-03-23 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 12:05:10AM +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
> Hi Bryce,
> 
> I wouldn't mind joining and scoping out, but I won't be available as a
> mentor myself. The first third of the time when the Season of Docs is
> taking place (which is from September - November) is super busy for me
> because of Kielux.

Thanks, yeah I think for now we just want to learn what the program is,
so just find out and report back.  We'll figure out whether we want to
participate and, if so, how we'd handle mentor recruitment, subsequently.
 
> So if anyone is interested in the mentoring part, then I think it would
> make more sense if they would attend.
> 
> Inkscape could certainly use some good (and up-to-date) docs, no doubt
> about that.

Certaintly true, that.

Bryce

> Maren
> 
> Am 23.03.19 um 01:17 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
> > Maren & other docs folks,
> > 
> > This sounds like it is a GSoC equivalent but for documentation.  Would
> > one of you mind joining in the discussions at the time and place
> > mentioned below and scope out if it'd be of value for Inkscape to do?
> > 
> > Bryce
> > 
> > - Forwarded message from Deb Nicholson  -
> > 
> > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:27:46 -0400
> > From: Deb Nicholson 
> > To: project-r...@sfconservancy.org
> > Subject: 3/27, IRC help for applying to Season of the Docs
> > 
> > Hi all, 
> > Google has a new program (https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/
> > ) that is pairing technical writers with open source projects. Andrew
> > Chen, one of the orgnizers for Season of the Docs, has generously
> > agreed to offer their help, advice and expertise to Conservancy
> > projectss who are interested in applying as a mentoring organization.
> > 
> > Swing by Conservancy's IRC channel, #conservancy on freenode.net 
> > at 2pm Eastern time (aka New York Time, currently GMT -4) on Wednesday,
> > March 27th.
> > 
> > If you have not used IRC before, don't worry! You can access it via any
> > web browser. Click here, 
> > https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=%23conservancy
> > 
> > Then you'll just choose a nickname and you're ready to go!
> > 
> > See you next Wednesday!
> > Deb
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] update faq re 1.0

2019-03-21 Thread Bryce Harrington
At this point I think that Q can be dropped, as 1.0 is current news.

Bryce

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:36:06AM -0600, brynn wrote:
> Hi Friends,
>I'm just getting ready to add a new item to the FAQ
> (https://inkscape.org/learn/faq/) re CMYK support (getting a lot of
> questions lately, and tired of typing out the same answer over and over).
> 
>Anyway, this item caught my eye 
> (https://inkscape.org/learn/faq/#will-there-be-inkscape-100-what-would-it-be).
> It occurs to me that someone might want to update that answer, since 1.0 is
> finally on the horizon!
> 
>I can't write it myself.  But if anyone wants to send me the text,
> I'd be glad to edit it in.
> 
> All best,
> brynn
> 
> 
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-16 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 07:27:47PM +0100, Patrick Storz wrote:
> Am 16.01.2019 um 03:55 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
> > I'd like to ask Marc, Patrick and Bryce to review the changes.
> > https://inkscape.org/contribute/report-bugs/
> 
> Thanks for taking care of this!
> 
> I've done some minor edits to simplify / clarify (among others I tried to
> give a short explanation on why there are two trackers but without getting
> too verbose). Feel free to cross-check and iterate!
> 
> I guess we might want to include a link to the guide on how to migrate a bug
> once it's ready in the relevant line? (I think Chris was preparing one?)

That would be great to include when it's available.
 
> As a general note I'm afraid some users were lazy and didn't check properly
> for duplicates before. Having two trackers will likely not make that any
> more probable.

Yes, with two trackers in play, that's certainly going to be a concern.

(I tend not to mind if users post dupes - gitlab and launchpad make it
easy enough to mark bugs as dupes.  I'd rather have that then deal with
a user that incorrectly decides they have the same issue as an existing
report, when they don't, and end up sidetracking analysis discussion
with what is effectively just noise...)

> Even for everybody else it obviously involves additional
> effort. As I don't see a way to "solve" this (short of nuking or completely
> disregarding the old tracker)

Well, having a unified inbox on gitlab as you proposed may get us
partway towards something like that.  If we accept 0.92 bugs in gitlab
(for 0.92.4 and newer) then we can be more aggressive at discouraging
bug filing on launchpad - we can scrub all mention of it and all links
to it from all our public pages.

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape moves to Gitlab

2019-01-15 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:07:19AM -0700, brynn wrote:
> If either 0.92.4 or 1.0 alpha is about to be released, can't the edits just
> say 'from now on'?   (Not really "from now on" specifically, but in effect
> it would be - here's where new bug reports go now.) Because users wouldn't
> be reporting bugs for 0.92.3 or older, after 0.92.4 is released, would they?

Not all users will know to install 0.92.4 immediately; Linux users will
tend to upgrade when their distro upgrades them, and that could be some
months out.  So we can expect many users will be on 0.92.3 even after
0.92.4 is out, and may need encouragement to re-test on the newer version.

It's questionable that the developers will have much interest in working
on 0.92.4 bug reports, but they'll certainly have little interest in
bugs only affecting 0.92.3 or older.

Bryce

> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:19 AM
> To: brynn ; inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for Inkscape
> moves to Gitlab
> 
> Am 15.01.19 um 17:08 schrieb brynn:
> > I could try to do that.  But I need specifics.
> 
> - Thank you, Brynn.
> 
> > Is the only thing that needs to be changed is the link (and supporting
> > text around the link, if necessary)?
> 
> - No, the new policy about both bug trackers needs to be mentioned and
> explained on the 'report bugs' page, at least.
> 
> However, for that we still need a reply from Bryce about the Inkscape
> version that applies to. Wait for that before you start, please.
> 
> I can see why he said 0.92.4 and higher - because that's what is
> currently under development. I don't know what Marc's rationale is for
> only intending to do this for alpha and higher. Maybe there was some
> kind of misunderstanding in their communication earlier, dunno, just
> know that we need to know before we make any changes, and even before we
> publish the release news article...
> 
> On the other pages, probably a simple switch is sufficient, or change to
> a link to report bugs page if suitable, to have 1 central place that
> needs to be updated instead of multiple places.
> 
> > Should the link go to
> > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues, or directly to open a new
> > Issue form?
> 
> - Better allow users to search for duplicates first, so not the new
> issue form.
> 
> > Of course I'll list every change for translators and send it to you :-)
> 
> - Thank you, that will be awesome.
> 
> > I'm probably not the best person to update the wiki.  I'm not very
> > familiar with it.
> 
> - If you find something that needs updating, you can let us know here, then.
> 
> Maren
> 
> > All best,
> > brynn
> > 
> > -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:08 AM
> > To: inkscape-de...@lists.sourceforge.net ; Inkscape-Docs
> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Issue tracking for
> > Inkscape moves to Gitlab
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > could someone help web content editors by browsing the website and
> > looking for places that require updating?
> > 
> > I think it's probably FAQ, the bug report page, contribute testing, and
> > develop pages.
> > 
> > Then there must also be some Wiki pages.
> > 
> > I'm currently a bit busy with other stuff, so I'd appreciate if someone
> > gave me a list with links + screenshots or similar.
> > 
> > Or, if someone updated the pages, that would be cool - but then I'd
> > still need a list (preferably with screenshots), for being able to
> > notify translators.
> > 
> > Maren
> > 
> > Am 15.01.19 um 10:56 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > As of this week, the Inkscape project is shifting to Gitlab for issue
> > > tracking in place of Launchpad.
> > > 
> > >   https://gitlab.com/groups/inkscape/-/issues
> > > 
> > > 
> > > We've been using Gitlab for our code hosting and other purposes for a
> > > year and a half now[1], and have found it to be reliable and
> > > convenient.  We didn't migrate Issue Tracking until now, so we could
> > > take time to make sure we had a plan:
> > > 
> > > 1.  Going forward, new bug reports should be filed only in Gitlab.
> > > 
> > > 2.  Launchpad will remain available as a historical archive of our bug
> > > reports.  Filing bugs there will remain possible for now, but
> > > discouraged.
> > > 
> > > 3.  Bugs in Launchpad that are still

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Community

2018-05-17 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:05:30AM +0700, Rania Amina wrote:
> Hi, there!
> I'm Rania Amina, Inkscape user from Indonesia. Via this email, i wanna to
> inform about our community named Gimpscape ID. This community has focus on
> design by using open source software such as Inkscape, Gimp, Krita, etc. We
> active in Telegram [https://t.me/gimpscape]. We also have website [
> gimpscape.org] to accomodate tutorial, news, and artwork that created by
> our member every day.
> 
> Hope our community can be included in Inkscape.org page. Thanks a lot.
> 
> Rania Amina

Hi Rania!

At the Inkscape Hackfest it was brought up that there is a very active
and healthy community in Indonesia, and we really wanted to get in
contact with you, so I am really happy you've joined us here!

Adding a link to your website from ours is certainly doable - I've added
you to the Community > Around the Internet page.

But I wonder if there's other things we can do to tie Indonesia into the
larger community more strongly?  Can you tell us more about your group
and its activities?  Do you get together in person very often?  How do
the community members use Inkscape, and do any of you tinker with code?
Do members participate in the official (English)
irc/mailinglists/forums/facebook/etc.?  Would it be beneficial for the
community to have official Inkscape Indonesian-language discussion
channels?

Thanks again for connecting, looking forward to more discussion.

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] UX team?

2017-09-20 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:07:24AM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 07:57 -0600, brynn wrote:
> > Oh!  (Copying over to dev and user lists.)  There are so very many
> > people 
> > interested in working on the UX  (I seem to recall several people had
> > been 
> > signed up -- it's hard to believe not one of them would volunteer for
> > this 
> > simple task.
> > 
> > If "the team's business" means writing the intro, Team Details and
> > Charter, I 
> > can do that.  What other business might there be?  (Even though I'm
> > leading the 
> > Moderators Team, I suspect the "business" is probably different.)
> > 
> > If it requires a lot of work, let's put it up on the To-Do List page,
> > to try to 
> > recruit someone.  But what kind of business is it?
> 
> The above, plus managing ux requests and making sure the team has a
> function that it can maintain. So if we have a discussion about a ux
> piece, there's a gitlab issues tracker or similar we can all go to.
> 
> But the actual setup is up to the leader and team tbh.

"A function that it can maintain" is definitely true.  A UX team would
be notably different from, say, the Docs or Vectors team, in that it is
(ideally) inward facing rather than outward facing.  Documentation and
marketing have essentially stand-alone output, with their input being
into our development efforts.  A UX team operates in the reverse
direction, so will require setting up tighter coordination.  So a
principle goal for setting up a UX team would be working out a good
strategy for getting development done on the changes they identify.

I have some further ideas here on how to relate the team to our
development roadmap, and would be happy to brainstorm with anyone
interested in getting this ux team up and running.

Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Ms are light on web site/new site?

2015-05-17 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 07:57:04PM -0600, Brynn wrote:
 Hi Friends,
Has anyone else ever noticed how all the capital letters M,
 on the website, look like they were typed with a typewriter whose M
 key has a weak spring?  See attachments.
I guess that must be something to do with the font?

The site doesn't look like that to me.  Perhaps something is wrong with
that font on your system?

Bryce

I guess most people would never notice it.  But ever since I
 noticed it, I can't seem to ignore it!
Anyway, a while ago there was some talk about making a new
 site, with responsive design, and I had some wishes for different
 text/heading styles, and a few other things.
I'm just curious if anything is happening with that?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Add doxygen link to website?

2015-04-30 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 03:55:19PM +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote:
 Am 28.04.2015 um 23:34 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
 
  Is there any additional info I should include?
  We also wondered if there were other resources or other information that
  would be worth adding to the getting-started page that would help
  newcomers.  Perhaps someone that has come onboard relatively recently
  could review it and suggest useful information to add.
   
 
 - Is there anybody specific I could ask? Seems that a general shoutout
 to the dev's mailing list is not a successful road.

A trick I've used successfully in the past is to watch the IRC channel
or mailing list for someone asking a lot of basic dev questions, and/or
complaining about the lack of intro user documentation, and then pounce
on them.  :-)

Another approach with this particular document is to identify some of
the questions we don't currently answer adequately, and pose them to the
existing developers, and capture their answers.  If you find someone who
is particularly helpful at answering questions, then kindly ask them to
also proofread the existing docs and identify things that are no longer
current.

In general, often the problem is the people who have the time and
interest in writing these docs don't know enough to be comfortable
volunteering to write them.  And those who do know the info, no longer
need the docs, and are more interested in putting their knowledge to
use.  But if you can find some way to pit one off against the other,
useful docs can often be emitted as a byproduct.

Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Add doxygen link to website?

2015-04-28 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 06:57:37PM +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was just looking through the updated Roadmap, and noticed that this link
 
 http://jenkins.inkscape.org/job/Inkscape_trunk_doxygen/doxygen/
 
 could be an extremely useful thing for new developers to get some sense
 of overview about Inkscape's structure.
 
 I'd like to add it to the section The Inkscape Codebase at
 https://inkscape.org/en/develop/getting-started .

Please do!  In fact we were just chatting about this at lunch during the
hackfest.  That's a perfect place for it.

 Is there any additional info I should include?

We also wondered if there were other resources or other information that
would be worth adding to the getting-started page that would help
newcomers.  Perhaps someone that has come onboard relatively recently
could review it and suggest useful information to add.
 
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Re: [Inkscape-docs] where does this belong? (advanced SVG coding)

2015-02-25 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 06:53:05PM -0500, Martin Owens wrote:
 On Mon, 2015-02-23 at 15:09 -0700, Brynn wrote:
  We don't have an SVG section for developers that I know about.  And
  the 
  other links I have are just 2 or 3.  But maybe starting a page would
  inspire 
  some developers to fill it in?
 
 
 This sounds like the best course of action Brynn. Even a semi-good page
 is better than no page and we can evolve it from there.

This should fit in well with our goal of adopting some SVG 2 support.

One thing to keep in mind though is ensuring the page gets proper
maintenance going forward; technical stuff bitrots quickly on the web,
and 3rd party links especially.

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[Inkscape-docs] Needed: Board Executive Secretary volunteer

2015-02-20 Thread Bryce Harrington
We're about to enter a busy period for the board.  We've got the
hackfest coming up, a new charter to decide on and document, a board
election to hold, and more.  I'm finding myself to be a bit of a
bottleneck for proceeding on these items - partly due to a need to
ensure everything's properly documented.

At Martin Owen's suggestion, I'd like to ask for a volunteer to help me
out with various documentarian tasks, such as:

  * posting news items to the website about board activities
  * formatting documents into HTML for the website
  * uploading PDF documents to the website
  * ensure meeting minutes are posted
  * drafting vote proposals
  * copyediting

You'll be working closely with me.  I don't think it is going to require
a huge time commitment - perhaps several hours a week - but I do need
someone I can hand stuff off to and rely on to ensure it gets done.

In particular, you'll be helping me build out the Governance area of our
main website (under the About menu), with various legal documents,
policies, procedures, financial docs, meeting minutes, and so on.

If you're interested, please contact me off list.

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Needed: Board Executive Secretary volunteer

2015-02-20 Thread Bryce Harrington
Thanks all, a volunteer has been found!

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:26:00AM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
 We're about to enter a busy period for the board.  We've got the
 hackfest coming up, a new charter to decide on and document, a board
 election to hold, and more.  I'm finding myself to be a bit of a
 bottleneck for proceeding on these items - partly due to a need to
 ensure everything's properly documented.
 
 At Martin Owen's suggestion, I'd like to ask for a volunteer to help me
 out with various documentarian tasks, such as:
 
   * posting news items to the website about board activities
   * formatting documents into HTML for the website
   * uploading PDF documents to the website
   * ensure meeting minutes are posted
   * drafting vote proposals
   * copyediting
 
 You'll be working closely with me.  I don't think it is going to require
 a huge time commitment - perhaps several hours a week - but I do need
 someone I can hand stuff off to and rely on to ensure it gets done.
 
 In particular, you'll be helping me build out the Governance area of our
 main website (under the About menu), with various legal documents,
 policies, procedures, financial docs, meeting minutes, and so on.
 
 If you're interested, please contact me off list.
 
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