Re: [Inkscape-docs] About SVG page
Hi Brynn,
can your IE still interpret the contents of those tutorials? - For me,
they don't work at all, neither in Chromium nor in Firefox. And also,
all links I clicked on on the formular or list page were dead. There are
some boxes, and they are clickable, but nothing happens.
Some of the js the website needs doesn't even exist any more.
I think you can happily leave them out... or do they work for you?
Regards,
Maren
Am 10.03.2015 um 02:41 schrieb Brynn:
Hi again, Hhmm...well now I'm having 2nd thoughts about adding those
tutorials. Can you look at them, and judge whether they are too
out-of-date? Or do you think they will be about like the book --
still useful? It's all a bit over my head, especially the math and
scripting. These are the tutorials that share the same domain:
http://learnsvg.com/tutorials/tutorialBasics/
http://learnsvg.com/tutorials/tutorialMath/
http://learnsvg.com/tutorials/tutorialScripting/ It's too bad
everything isn't all linked together, like you'd expect, then we'd
only need to link to the front page. But maybe there's a reason?
Thanks :-) brynn
-- From: Maren
Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 2:56
PM To: Brynn br...@frii.com;
inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: About SVG page
Hi Brynn,
I do still want to add the Learn SVG website, and the tutorials
which are on that same domain (although somehow not linked to
each other), if that's ok, as well as the book.
- The website and book are in now, and I've gotten feedback from Tav
and adapted the page, so you can now add the still missing tutorials
;)
But I'll be happy to start a page on animation topics. It will
be fun and informative :-) Should it be in Learn sub-menu, or
Develop? I would think Learn, but I often don't see the big
picture.
- To me, Learn also makes more sense, as it's geared towards a more
general audience - not only Inkscape developers want to make their
pictures move ;)
Regards, Maren
-- From:
Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de Sent: Saturday,
March 07, 2015 5:33 PM To: Brynn br...@frii.com;
inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: About SVG
page
Hi Brynn,
thank you for your feedback!
ad 1) I was able to shorten it to a bit less than 3 screen
heights. The expanding box would be nice, but we don't have
something like that available currently, I believe. Maybe
something for a website feature request?
ad 3) No ETA yet. I still need feedback and keywords from Tav.
This shouldn't prevent you from starting with the animation
page, though. I can take care of the rest of this page ('About
SVG'), if you would like to proceed.
The link selection you added to the page looks like a really
good selection, I only added the SVG 2.0 draft to the link
list, and renamed two items. Thank you!
Regards, Maren
Am 07.03.2015 um 02:34 schrieb Brynn:
Hi again, This is a reply to the last msg in the Where
does this belong
thread. But I think that topic has ended, and has now become
more about the new page. I hope it's ok to start a new thread
like this.
1.I was just looking at the new About SVG page
that Maren
started, which looks awesome! The one thing that I wonder
about is the section of code in the middle. It's approx 5.5
pages long, on my screen. Would it be possible to make the
text smaller (say by 2 to 4 pts), so that it takes up less
space? Or show less of the code? Or maybe put it on another
page, and link to it? Or have a very small block, say 100 or
200 pixels square, and when you either click, or mouseover, it
expands down?
I completely understand the purpose of showing it, and
it's a
good thing. But after 2 or 3 page-downs, I wonder if visitors
will think that's the end of the page, and move on? Plus, I
imagine the How does Inkscape use SVG section could be fairly
long, as well.
2.Since we can't make the links yet, I guess I'll
just put the
URL for each link, on the draft page.
3.Now that we have this draft on staging, is
there any idea
when it will go up on live? I ask, because I'm anxious to
start a page for animation topics, but want to see this through
first.
4.Does anyone know who might be responsible for
the Learn SVG
site, or at least who put it on the Books page? It still just
bugs me that various parts of that site aren't connected
together (via link from its front page). It's something that
makes me think the site will succumb to bitrot sooner than
later (maybe has already started) and makes me not want to use
it. But otherwise, it really is a nice site.
Thanks, brynn
-- From:
Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de Sent:
Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:50 PM To:
inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:
[Inkscape-docs] where does this
Re: [Inkscape-docs] About SVG page
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Hi Brynn,
I do still want to add the Learn SVG website,
and the tutorials which are on that same domain (although somehow not
linked to each other), if that's ok, as well as the book.
- - The website and book are in now, and I've gotten feedback from Tav
and adapted the page, so you can now add the still missing tutorials ;)
But I'll be happy to start a page on animation topics. It will be
fun and informative :-) Should it be in Learn sub-menu, or Develop?
I would think Learn, but I often don't see the big picture.
- - To me, Learn also makes more sense, as it's geared towards a more
general audience - not only Inkscape developers want to make their
pictures move ;)
Regards,
Maren
-- From: Maren
Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015
5:33 PM To: Brynn br...@frii.com;
inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: About SVG page
Hi Brynn,
thank you for your feedback!
ad 1) I was able to shorten it to a bit less than 3 screen heights.
The expanding box would be nice, but we don't have something like
that available currently, I believe. Maybe something for a website
feature request?
ad 3) No ETA yet. I still need feedback and keywords from Tav. This
shouldn't prevent you from starting with the animation page, though.
I can take care of the rest of this page ('About SVG'), if you would
like to proceed.
The link selection you added to the page looks like a really good
selection, I only added the SVG 2.0 draft to the link list, and
renamed two items. Thank you!
Regards, Maren
Am 07.03.2015 um 02:34 schrieb Brynn:
Hi again, This is a reply to the last msg in the Where does
this belong
thread. But I think that topic has ended, and has now become more
about the new page. I hope it's ok to start a new thread like this.
1.I was just looking at the new About SVG page that
Maren
started, which looks awesome! The one thing that I wonder about is
the section of code in the middle. It's approx 5.5 pages long, on
my screen. Would it be possible to make the text smaller (say by 2
to 4 pts), so that it takes up less space? Or show less of the code?
Or maybe put it on another page, and link to it? Or have a very
small block, say 100 or 200 pixels square, and when you either click,
or mouseover, it expands down?
I completely understand the purpose of showing it, and it's a
good thing. But after 2 or 3 page-downs, I wonder if visitors will
think that's the end of the page, and move on? Plus, I imagine the
How does Inkscape use SVG section could be fairly long, as well.
2.Since we can't make the links yet, I guess I'll just
put the
URL for each link, on the draft page.
3.Now that we have this draft on staging, is there any
idea
when it will go up on live? I ask, because I'm anxious to start a
page for animation topics, but want to see this through first.
4.Does anyone know who might be responsible for the
Learn SVG
site, or at least who put it on the Books page? It still just bugs
me that various parts of that site aren't connected together (via
link from its front page). It's something that makes me think the
site will succumb to bitrot sooner than later (maybe has already
started) and makes me not want to use it. But otherwise, it really
is a nice site.
Thanks, brynn
-- From: Maren
Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de Sent: Wednesday, March 04,
2015 12:50 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] where does this belong?
(advanced SVG
coding)
Hi everyone,
I've started the 'About SVG' page for the 'Develop' submenu
at http://staging.inkscape.org/en/develop/about-svg. There
aren't any links in it yet, because of the plugin links not
being transferable from staging to live. Text formatting
isn't finished yet, either.
The last section, where links to external pages will live, is
your realm, Brynn :)
For the next-to-last section, I would appreciate Tav's and
every other developer's help for prompting me with some
keywords, and probably people will also have additional
remarks for the 'Why...' section.
Improvement / wording / orthography suggestions welcome!
Regards, Maren
Am 04.03.2015 um 18:17 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
Hi Brynn,
Am 04.03.2015 um 00:52 schrieb Brynn:
I did a little searching, but then I wanted to see the
overview that you were going to write, to get some hints
about some different search terms. (I'm not very
knowledgeable about this.) So far, I've found a few
tutorials (on writing SVG). Although I agree that we
probably want to limit the unofficial links, as much
as possible. Martin replied to me privately (for some
reason), saying he didn't think a new menu item is
needed, and that he thinks the new page about SVG should
go in Develop menu. It
Re: [Inkscape-docs] About SVG page
Hi again,
Hhmm...well now I'm having 2nd thoughts about adding those
tutorials. Can you look at them, and judge whether they are too
out-of-date? Or do you think they will be about like the book -- still
useful? It's all a bit over my head, especially the math and scripting.
These are the tutorials that share the same domain:
http://learnsvg.com/tutorials/tutorialBasics/
http://learnsvg.com/tutorials/tutorialMath/
http://learnsvg.com/tutorials/tutorialScripting/
It's too bad everything isn't all linked together, like you'd
expect, then we'd only need to link to the front page. But maybe there's a
reason?
Thanks :-)
brynn
--
From: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 2:56 PM
To: Brynn br...@frii.com; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: About SVG page
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Hash: SHA256
Hi Brynn,
I do still want to add the Learn SVG website,
and the tutorials which are on that same domain (although somehow not
linked to each other), if that's ok, as well as the book.
- - The website and book are in now, and I've gotten feedback from Tav
and adapted the page, so you can now add the still missing tutorials ;)
But I'll be happy to start a page on animation topics. It will be
fun and informative :-) Should it be in Learn sub-menu, or Develop?
I would think Learn, but I often don't see the big picture.
- - To me, Learn also makes more sense, as it's geared towards a more
general audience - not only Inkscape developers want to make their
pictures move ;)
Regards,
Maren
-- From: Maren
Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015
5:33 PM To: Brynn br...@frii.com;
inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: About SVG page
Hi Brynn,
thank you for your feedback!
ad 1) I was able to shorten it to a bit less than 3 screen heights.
The expanding box would be nice, but we don't have something like
that available currently, I believe. Maybe something for a website
feature request?
ad 3) No ETA yet. I still need feedback and keywords from Tav. This
shouldn't prevent you from starting with the animation page, though.
I can take care of the rest of this page ('About SVG'), if you would
like to proceed.
The link selection you added to the page looks like a really good
selection, I only added the SVG 2.0 draft to the link list, and
renamed two items. Thank you!
Regards, Maren
Am 07.03.2015 um 02:34 schrieb Brynn:
Hi again, This is a reply to the last msg in the Where does
this belong
thread. But I think that topic has ended, and has now become more
about the new page. I hope it's ok to start a new thread like this.
1.I was just looking at the new About SVG page that
Maren
started, which looks awesome! The one thing that I wonder about is
the section of code in the middle. It's approx 5.5 pages long, on
my screen. Would it be possible to make the text smaller (say by 2
to 4 pts), so that it takes up less space? Or show less of the code?
Or maybe put it on another page, and link to it? Or have a very
small block, say 100 or 200 pixels square, and when you either click,
or mouseover, it expands down?
I completely understand the purpose of showing it, and it's a
good thing. But after 2 or 3 page-downs, I wonder if visitors will
think that's the end of the page, and move on? Plus, I imagine the
How does Inkscape use SVG section could be fairly long, as well.
2.Since we can't make the links yet, I guess I'll just
put the
URL for each link, on the draft page.
3.Now that we have this draft on staging, is there any
idea
when it will go up on live? I ask, because I'm anxious to start a
page for animation topics, but want to see this through first.
4.Does anyone know who might be responsible for the
Learn SVG
site, or at least who put it on the Books page? It still just bugs
me that various parts of that site aren't connected together (via
link from its front page). It's something that makes me think the
site will succumb to bitrot sooner than later (maybe has already
started) and makes me not want to use it. But otherwise, it really
is a nice site.
Thanks, brynn
-- From: Maren
Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de Sent: Wednesday, March 04,
2015 12:50 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] where does this belong?
(advanced SVG
coding)
Hi everyone,
I've started the 'About SVG' page for the 'Develop' submenu
at http://staging.inkscape.org/en/develop/about-svg. There
aren't any links in it yet, because of the plugin links not
being transferable from staging to live. Text formatting
isn't finished yet, either.
The last section, where links to external pages will live, is
your realm, Brynn :)
For the
Re: [Inkscape-docs] About SVG page
Hi Maren,
Yeah, that shorter section of code really looks better. If we don't want to
have an expandable section, or link to the whole amount of code, maybe just
a note about how to find it, if someone wants to see the whole thing? (e.g.
open it in Inkscape and look at XML Editor, or look at source code in a
browser)
Hah, I have the SVG 2.0 draft on my list, but somehow it didn't make it onto
the page. Although on the other hand, I didn't realize I was finished
completely! I do still want to add the Learn SVG website, and the tutorials
which are on that same domain (although somehow not linked to each other),
if that's ok, as well as the book. I was still hoping to get some more info
about the Learn SVG site, before putting it on About SVG page. But now I'm
thinking I won't be getting anymore info. And I'll just plan on keeping an
eye on the link.
But I'll be happy to start a page on animation topics. It will be fun and
informative :-) Should it be in Learn sub-menu, or Develop? I would think
Learn, but I often don't see the big picture.
All best,
brynn
--
From: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 5:33 PM
To: Brynn br...@frii.com; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: About SVG page
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Hash: SHA256
Hi Brynn,
thank you for your feedback!
ad 1)
I was able to shorten it to a bit less than 3 screen heights. The
expanding box would be nice, but we don't have something like that
available currently, I believe. Maybe something for a website feature
request?
ad 3)
No ETA yet. I still need feedback and keywords from Tav. This shouldn't
prevent you from starting with the animation page, though. I can take
care of the rest of this page ('About SVG'), if you would like to proceed.
The link selection you added to the page looks like a really good
selection, I only added the SVG 2.0 draft to the link list, and renamed
two items. Thank you!
Regards,
Maren
Am 07.03.2015 um 02:34 schrieb Brynn:
Hi again,
This is a reply to the last msg in the Where does this belong
thread. But I think that topic has ended, and has now become more about
the new page. I hope it's ok to start a new thread like this.
1.I was just looking at the new About SVG page that Maren
started, which looks awesome! The one thing that I wonder about is the
section of code in the middle. It's approx 5.5 pages long, on my
screen. Would it be possible to make the text smaller (say by 2 to 4
pts), so that it takes up less space? Or show less of the code? Or
maybe put it on another page, and link to it? Or have a very small
block, say 100 or 200 pixels square, and when you either click, or
mouseover, it expands down?
I completely understand the purpose of showing it, and it's a
good thing. But after 2 or 3 page-downs, I wonder if visitors will
think that's the end of the page, and move on? Plus, I imagine the How
does Inkscape use SVG section could be fairly long, as well.
2.Since we can't make the links yet, I guess I'll just put the
URL for each link, on the draft page.
3.Now that we have this draft on staging, is there any idea
when it will go up on live? I ask, because I'm anxious to start a page
for animation topics, but want to see this through first.
4.Does anyone know who might be responsible for the Learn SVG
site, or at least who put it on the Books page? It still just bugs me
that various parts of that site aren't connected together (via link from
its front page). It's something that makes me think the site will
succumb to bitrot sooner than later (maybe has already started) and
makes me not want to use it. But otherwise, it really is a nice site.
Thanks,
brynn
--
From: Maren Hachmann ma...@goos-habermann.de
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:50 PM
To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] where does this belong? (advanced SVG
coding)
Hi everyone,
I've started the 'About SVG' page for the 'Develop' submenu at
http://staging.inkscape.org/en/develop/about-svg.
There aren't any links in it yet, because of the plugin links not being
transferable from staging to live.
Text formatting isn't finished yet, either.
The last section, where links to external pages will live, is your
realm, Brynn :)
For the next-to-last section, I would appreciate Tav's and every other
developer's help for prompting me with some keywords, and probably
people will also have additional remarks for the 'Why...' section.
Improvement / wording / orthography suggestions welcome!
Regards,
Maren
Am 04.03.2015 um 18:17 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
Hi Brynn,
Am 04.03.2015 um 00:52 schrieb Brynn:
I did a little searching, but then I wanted to see the overview that
you were going to write, to get some hints
