Re: [PHP-DEV] VCS Account Request: jacob

2014-12-28 Thread Pierre Joye
btw, what is the best way to approve such accounts, with karma?

On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Jacob Bednarz jacob.bedn...@gmail.com wrote:
 - Triaging bugs, issues and cleaning up bug reports


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Re: [PHP-DEV] VCS Account Request: jacob

2014-12-28 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:

 btw, what is the best way to approve such accounts, with karma?

 On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Jacob Bednarz jacob.bedn...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  - Triaging bugs, issues and cleaning up bug reports
 


one doesn't need any additional karma for handling bugreports, only an
approved php.net account.
recently I approved one or two similar account requests, but only because
they were from regulars from php-internals@ people whom already provided
pull requests in the past.
I think if the number of these kind of requests stays low it won't be a
problem, but otherwise it could bias/dilute the rfc voting(as we only
require a valid php.net account there) depending on how somebody interprets
the voting rfc.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] VCS Account Request: jacob

2014-12-28 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi Pierre

2014-12-28 11:06 GMT+01:00 Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com:
 btw, what is the best way to approve such accounts, with karma?


I was thinking something along the lines of basic doc karma as for
many bugs one way or another involve touching parts of the manual.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] VCS Account Request: jacob

2014-12-28 Thread Pierre Joye
On Dec 28, 2014 11:46 PM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com
wrote:

 btw, what is the best way to approve such accounts, with karma?

 On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Jacob Bednarz jacob.bedn...@gmail.com
wrote:
  - Triaging bugs, issues and cleaning up bug reports
 


 one doesn't need any additional karma for handling bugreports, only an
approved php.net account.
 recently I approved one or two similar account requests, but only because
they were from regulars from php-internals@ people whom already provided
pull requests in the past.
 I think if the number of these kind of requests stays low it won't be a
problem, but otherwise it could bias/dilute the rfc voting(as we only
require a valid php.net account there) depending on how somebody interprets
the voting rfc.

Someone doing regular bug triage, valid them, test them, follow them is an
awesome active contributor and deserve more than anyone else to vote.

Just to make it clear, this is an ungrateful job and requires to know php
very well from a userland pov. Many of us don't, including me. :)

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugfest

2014-12-28 Thread Levi Morrison
I have committed a fix for one bug and closed another bug report
because of this thread. I will continue to look at bugs but I wanted
to spread some encouragement.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugfest

2014-12-28 Thread Paul Dragoonis
Come up with a way to incentivise people to fix bugs.

My previous suggestion was to have a contributors page and it will rank
people based on bug fixes.

I'd be happy to work on this with someone.
On 28 Dec 2014 19:16, Levi Morrison le...@php.net wrote:

 I have committed a fix for one bug and closed another bug report
 because of this thread. I will continue to look at bugs but I wanted
 to spread some encouragement.

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[PHP-DEV] Re: Bugfest

2014-12-28 Thread Christoph Becker
Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:

 For a while I have been just stalking the bugs database[1], and I
 would love if we could some more focus on closing bugs.

Someone may consider reviewing the following bug reports :), which can
be closed IMHO (see my respective comments):

  https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=64600
  https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=66703

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugfest

2014-12-28 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi Pasindu

2014-12-28 23:43 GMT+01:00 Pasindu De Silva ppasin...@gmail.com:
 Hi
 I would like join and fix some I have been trying to fix some bugs in
 DateTIme thought it was a good place to start, is there maybe a way to add a
 label called
 novice or starter bugs for people with little experience to get into.

We do not have such functionality implemented in our bug tracker,
usually you can say that Documentation/Translation bugs are rather
easy to fix, vs. a bug in the scripting engine can be a much harder
one to tackle.

Depending on your skill level, if you are intermediate in C and a
novice to the PHP/Zend API, then a good play to start looking for bugs
and resolve them could be compilation, maybe you had to tweak the
build system in a way to make it work or you are using a system for
which a pending bug is open for[1] else the best all in all category
that does not involve too many external APIs is the General issues
which is a mix of all[2].

In the future please use reply-all, so that everyone on the list can
read your message, if you got any more questions you are more than
welcome to reply back to this thread.

[1] 
https://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=displaybug_type=Allstatus=Openpackage_name%5B%5D=%2ACompile+Issuesby=Anylimit=30
[2] https://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=displaypackage_name[]=%2AGeneral+Issues


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugfest

2014-12-28 Thread Pasindu De Silva
Hi Kelle Thanks will dig in

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net wrote:

 Hi Pasindu

 2014-12-28 23:43 GMT+01:00 Pasindu De Silva ppasin...@gmail.com:
  Hi
  I would like join and fix some I have been trying to fix some bugs in
  DateTIme thought it was a good place to start, is there maybe a way to
 add a
  label called
  novice or starter bugs for people with little experience to get into.

 We do not have such functionality implemented in our bug tracker,
 usually you can say that Documentation/Translation bugs are rather
 easy to fix, vs. a bug in the scripting engine can be a much harder
 one to tackle.

 Depending on your skill level, if you are intermediate in C and a
 novice to the PHP/Zend API, then a good play to start looking for bugs
 and resolve them could be compilation, maybe you had to tweak the
 build system in a way to make it work or you are using a system for
 which a pending bug is open for[1] else the best all in all category
 that does not involve too many external APIs is the General issues
 which is a mix of all[2].

 In the future please use reply-all, so that everyone on the list can
 read your message, if you got any more questions you are more than
 welcome to reply back to this thread.

 [1]
 https://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=displaybug_type=Allstatus=Openpackage_name%5B%5D=%2ACompile+Issuesby=Anylimit=30
 [2]
 https://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=displaypackage_name[]=%2AGeneral+Issues


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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.3 windows binaries

2014-12-28 Thread Thomas Hruska

On 12/7/2014 10:52 PM, Thomas Hruska wrote:

On 11/29/2014 6:27 AM, Thomas Hruska wrote:

On 11/15/2014 12:13 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:

Good point. They will remain in the archives part. We kept them after
eol
just in case there was a last min critical update (we had one
actually :)

I will remove them asap.


Bump.


5.3 binaries still on the site:

http://windows.php.net/download/


(Keeping them in archives is fine by me.)


Bump.



On Nov 15, 2014 1:45 PM, Thomas Hruska thru...@cubiclesoft.com
wrote:


PHP 5.3 was removed from the website earlier today (a good thing).
However, the Windows binaries remain:

http://windows.php.net/download/

Oddly, the webmaster group claims to not have access to that section of
the website:

http://news.php.net/php.webmaster/20275

Possibly consider granting access to one or two people in that group?
The
access would be for special situations such as removing EOL'ed versions
when they come down from the main website.  PHP 5.2 Windows binaries
stuck
around for a very long time after 5.2 sources were removed from the
main
downloads page - most likely for the same reason of not having
access to
make those changes.


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[PHP-DEV] PHP7 RM

2014-12-28 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Happy holidays (and the new year to come) internals

With the ongoing effort to focus resources into PHP7, we are yet to
elect a release master (or two) for PHP7.

Since this is done traditionally by
'who-have-the-time-to-invest-being-this', I think its about time we
think about who will be able to do this massive task for our first
major release in over a decade.

We currently have 2 idea pages on the wiki available[1][2], listing
some ideas and thoughts that we should consider for the new release.
There is also the old PHP6 TODO list with some items merged into the
PHP5 branch over time, some might still be appealing to consider for
PHP7[3]. The RFC section on the wiki[4] is also booming with ideas and
some that have already made its way into PHP7.

So all in all I think its time that we decide on a set of RMs to keep
this together, I for one would stand up to that role with someone else
as I have the time to dedicate towards this and the experience of how
our process and development work.


[1] https://wiki.php.net/ideas/php6
[2] https://wiki.php.net/ideas/php6/engine
[3] https://wiki.php.net/todo/php60
[4] https://wiki.php.net/rfc

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