Re: [PHP-DEV] Standards for developers
Bottom line - rather than reinventing the wheel - is anybody else actually using Eclipse and has a simple set-up guide for how they have configured things? Ideally for windows, but I'd like to pull this up on the Linux boxes as well. If I'm going to have to start working on extension code it's easier on the linux box anyway and then I can cross test on windows. I guess I have another option for you: use cygwin's cvs client. When you checkout, it translates the EOLs to windows style, and when you commit it translates the EOLs back to unix. This way you can code in any editor you want, but without surprises when doing diffs and when commiting. Nuno -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Standards for developers
Nuno Lopes wrote: Bottom line - rather than reinventing the wheel - is anybody else actually using Eclipse and has a simple set-up guide for how they have configured things? Ideally for windows, but I'd like to pull this up on the Linux boxes as well. If I'm going to have to start working on extension code it's easier on the linux box anyway and then I can cross test on windows. I guess I have another option for you: use cygwin's cvs client. When you checkout, it translates the EOLs to windows style, and when you commit it translates the EOLs back to unix. This way you can code in any editor you want, but without surprises when doing diffs and when commiting. But that defeats the whole point ... Eclipse handles the CVS along with everything else so why would I want to add cygwin? Actually I don't want the files converted - that is just another possible area of confusion if both formats are being used in the php code I'd rather know that anyway. I'm just looking for some help to get a cross platform solution based on Eclipse working. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Standards for developers
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Nuno Lopesnlop...@php.net wrote: Bottom line - rather than reinventing the wheel - is anybody else actually using Eclipse and has a simple set-up guide for how they have configured things? Ideally for windows, but I'd like to pull this up on the Linux boxes as well. If I'm going to have to start working on extension code it's easier on the linux box anyway and then I can cross test on windows. I guess I have another option for you: use cygwin's cvs client. When you checkout, it translates the EOLs to windows style, and when you commit it translates the EOLs back to unix. This way you can code in any editor you want, but without surprises when doing diffs and when commiting. Every CVS does that, not only cygwin. That's the case for all text files. However, some files have to be in one mode (can't find an example right now). Other should not be in a given mode, usually mac EOL are not supported on windows (compiler or makefiles). Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Standards for developers
rantish mode One of the problems with playing with a new platform is getting things they way you are used to them. Linux is somewhat easier than Windows in that respect, but using Eclipse has at least provided a level playing field and now that I've got it tidied up and working on the Vista64 box ( has to use w32 jave to run ;) ) I can now get around some of the little niggles. I do not understand why you have to run with win32 Java. There is a 64 bit version of Java from Sun which runs on Windows. Like most 64 bit support on Windows, it takes some work to locate, the Java site mentions it, but despite referring to a download I can't find it there. Instead, I use this link: http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp Also, there is a 64 bit version of Eclipse, although you have to do some digging to find it exists. Go to the mirror of your choice and look for the 'eclipse-platform-SDK-3.4-win32-x86_64.zip' file. This requires that you add any dependencies for PDT etc yourself, but as each project lists its dependencies this is not a real problem. However, it's the only 64 bit version of Eclipse I have been able to find, PDT does not do a bundle for x64 yet :-( Files that are common to windows and linux will naturally follow linux rules on new line, so can't be displayed in 'notepad', and I've had to switch some of the windows defaults to get 'wordpad' used instead. I had forgotten to switch the wrap to ruler off which was causing a little confusion with white space, but once I get Eclipse configured to the windows php framework the problem will go away. Being used to 'notepad' I kept opening files the wrong way at first, although some files do actually display correctly in notepad. /rantish mode Bottom line - rather than reinventing the wheel - is anybody else actually using Eclipse and has a simple set-up guide for how they have configured things? Ideally for windows, but I'd like to pull this up on the Linux boxes as well. If I'm going to have to start working on extension code it's easier on the linux box anyway and then I can cross test on windows. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Niel Archer niel.archer (at) blueyonder.co.uk -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Standards for developers
Niel Archer wrote: rantish mode One of the problems with playing with a new platform is getting things they way you are used to them. Linux is somewhat easier than Windows in that respect, but using Eclipse has at least provided a level playing field and now that I've got it tidied up and working on the Vista64 box ( has to use w32 jave to run ;) ) I can now get around some of the little niggles. I do not understand why you have to run with win32 Java. There is a 64 bit version of Java from Sun which runs on Windows. Like most 64 bit support on Windows, it takes some work to locate, the Java site mentions it, but despite referring to a download I can't find it there. Instead, I use this link: http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp Also, there is a 64 bit version of Eclipse, although you have to do some digging to find it exists. Go to the mirror of your choice and look for the 'eclipse-platform-SDK-3.4-win32-x86_64.zip' file. This requires that you add any dependencies for PDT etc yourself, but as each project lists its dependencies this is not a real problem. However, it's the only 64 bit version of Eclipse I have been able to find, PDT does not do a bundle for x64 yet :-( PHPEclipse is still x86 as well ... I have no plans to move to PDT any time soon as I know most of the PHPEclipse code quite well now! Along with a couple of other SQL packages. I tried the x86_64 build but could not install the other bits that I use successfully on the 64 bit version on Linux ... not enough hours to waste even more time fixing side issues, so I switched to what I was told DID work, and it's doing what I need. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Standards for developers
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote: PHPEclipse is still x86 as well ... I have no plans to move to PDT any time soon as I know most of the PHPEclipse code quite well now! Along with a couple of other SQL packages. I tried the x86_64 build but could not install the other bits that I use successfully on the 64 bit version on Linux ... not enough hours to waste even more time fixing side issues, so I switched to what I was told DID work, and it's doing what I need. please move this discussion elsewhere, it has nothing to do with php internals. -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Standards for developers
Hi! Files that are common to windows and linux will naturally follow linux rules on new line, so can't be displayed in 'notepad', and I've had to Drop notepad, it wasn't a good tool even in Windows 3.1, much less now. Use something like Notepad++. :) -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect s...@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: s...@zend.com -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Standards for developers
Stanislav Malyshev wrote: Hi! Files that are common to windows and linux will naturally follow linux rules on new line, so can't be displayed in 'notepad', and I've had to Drop notepad, it wasn't a good tool even in Windows 3.1, much less now. Use something like Notepad++. :) Wordpad works OK - the problem on Vista is that 'Open With' does not appear so you have to manually reset the .bat entries to open it. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Standards for developers
Pierre Joye wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote: PHPEclipse is still x86 as well ... I have no plans to move to PDT any time soon as I know most of the PHPEclipse code quite well now! Along with a couple of other SQL packages. I tried the x86_64 build but could not install the other bits that I use successfully on the 64 bit version on Linux ... not enough hours to waste even more time fixing side issues, so I switched to what I was told DID work, and it's doing what I need. please move this discussion elsewhere, it has nothing to do with php internals. The only reason I'm trying to sort this out is because of your request to actually work on our own extensions. If questions and help on setting up PHP development platforms is nothing to do with php internals where should that discussion take place? Niel - your suggested search string took me to a different download area, and the package there was a later version to the one I had downloaded. Eclipse and PHPEclipse now running x64 on Vista64. I think there is still a problem with the Xdebug plugin, but I can live without that for the time being. Thanks for the push in the right direction ... Next step is to get build a project that accesses the PHP build process via cvs - if no one has already done that? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Standards for developers
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote: PHPEclipse is still x86 as well ... I have no plans to move to PDT any time soon as I know most of the PHPEclipse code quite well now! Along with a couple of other SQL packages. I tried the x86_64 build but could not install the other bits that I use successfully on the 64 bit version on Linux ... not enough hours to waste even more time fixing side issues, so I switched to what I was told DID work, and it's doing what I need. please move this discussion elsewhere, it has nothing to do with php internals. The only reason I'm trying to sort this out is because of your request to actually work on our own extensions. If questions and help on setting up PHP development platforms is nothing to do with php internals where should that discussion take place? Discussions about IDEs, editors, etc. have nothing to do here, period. -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
